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  1. #316

    bah Oh well shit happens in boxing I should know that from my 1st 33 years on this planet, that anything that is up to someone's discretion is rough to bet on especially laying big wood. I know better and still had it tied to few big parlays.
    Lesson learned Again! lol - hopefully I remember this lesson as I ignored the 1st 20 lesson's already heh.
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    I guess if you watch fight 10x scores might be closer

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  3. #318

    i just knew my money on bradley was gone watching that fight and then guess what.......

  4. #319

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffie View Post
    There was like 1000 Filipinos watching on the big screen at my local casino they cried when Manny lost.
    not gonna lie it was pretty funny.

  5. #320

    Quote Originally Posted by Pabinator View Post
    Is this the worst call ive seen in boxing? NO

    Do i think Pacroid won? YES

    I dont think it was as lob sided as you think & i can see how some of the judges might of thought it was close, there was a lot of rounds that Pacroid took off early & Bradley looked like he was doing more work.
    That being said, i still think Pacroid did enough to get the win, but Arum wins in the end, both his fighters & he sets up the rematch & mayweather is out the picture
    The worst call was that draw holyfield got against lewis when lewis beat holyfield ass all over the ring. that was the WORST and i never call fixed in boxing, that fight was fixed for sure.

  6. #321

    I had it 12 rounds to 0. Bradley had 4 or 5 excellent body shots and a couple of decent head shots. Hbo gave Bradley the 10th i believe. That was the oonly close round.

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  7. #322

    This was the biggest robbery i've ever saw and i've seen quite a few.

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  9. #324

    Quote Originally Posted by hawley View Post
    What was the price on the pacman?
    Got Pac at -420. Holy Shiznit.

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    Knock the guy out and you won't have to worry about decisions.

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  11. #326

    Quote Originally Posted by AraiWa View Post
    My guess is you're Filipino or you lost money or like Roger Mayweather says, "You don't know shit about boxing."

    I'm embarrassing myself cuz I bet correctly and yet had Pacquiao winning? Listen, I would bet that you probably don't know how to score boxing without looking up how to do so on the internet. Thinking a fighter won isn't enough pal. I've been doing this shit for 30+ years and while I think Pacquiao won the fight, I also think it was much closer than what people are claiming so giving a couple of the closer rounds to Bradley is all it takes. Also, for the record, Marquez beat Pacquiao without a doubt in the last fight and probably one of the others.

    The reason the same judges generally do the big fights is because in Vegas, they provide the judges, which is a helluva lot more fair than what is the norm, which is to have the sanctioning body provide them! Also, just how many qualified boxing judges do you think there are in Las Vegas? Since most judges don't make a living from the sport alone, not many.

    Teddy Atlas is no fraud but he's been known, as I definitely have, to be wrong more than once.
    Ididn't bet shit on the fight so u can take that lame excuse away. For years i have said that Jerry Ross and Duane Ford might be two of the biggest crooks in America. These guys do all the big fights for a reason and they did it again last night. To get Vegas the money. Marquez did beat Pac in a very close fight nothing like this. Like i said earlier this does nothing to the bigger fight with Mayweather. Anyone with a clue and two decent eyes knows Manny won that fight and won it easily. U are in such a minority hiding under the guise that u know more than everyone else is a joke in itself. Like Christ said "please don't ever post again." When u have a post board full of guys betting Bradley and winning the fight, and then saying they got a gift, maybe that ought to tell u something boxing guru. U don't see things the rest of us don't. lol. You don't see shit.
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  12. #327

    Quote Originally Posted by Imsmarterthanu View Post
    So you posted a picture of a rigged scorecard, that's all the evidence you have ?

    I'll take that silly piece of paper and wipe my ass with it. It proves absolutely NOTHING it's as valuable as toilet paper.

    You suck at scoring boxing, you know nothing about fighting just shut ur pie hole and stop pretending to be some expert in scoring boxing fights. This fight was as lobsided as a championship fight can be, Pacman dominated the entire fight toyed with Bradley for the majority of the rounds and made a complete joke of him. Bradley was gassed by round 5. Pathetic is the word to describe your defense.
    imagine a fighter of Pacs credentials and this guy is giving the close rounds to Bradley lol.

  13. #328

    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I guess if you watch fight 10x scores might be closer

    Let them fight again
    Nobody wants to see that fight again. There were some nice highlights but overall it wasn't that great of a fight. Nobody will care that Pac got robbed if Pac fights Mayweathe,r it will still be the biggest boxing event ever

  14. #329

    Quote Originally Posted by ApricotSinner32 View Post
    This was the biggest robbery i've ever saw and i've seen quite a few.


    white trash vocabulary

  15. #330

    Quote Originally Posted by crustyme View Post
    manny never said gays should be killed, idiot.

    the reporter admitted he added that part himself.

    i don't buy that story, every time a star says something very ignorant and then tries to back-out. he said what he said. and really i have a problem with anyone who claims to have just found god and becomes all self-righteous like pac did.


    as others said, it seems f'd up about the pre-fight bradly was waiting like 30 mins because pac-man wanted to watch the totality of a basketball game?

    but after last pac's last fight, that was the one where he should of lost. and a-lot of people were actually roaring about.

  16. #331

    Quote Originally Posted by Imsmarterthanu View Post
    So you posted a picture of a rigged scorecard, that's all the evidence you have ?

    I'll take that silly piece of paper and wipe my ass with it. It proves absolutely NOTHING it's as valuable as toilet paper.

    You suck at scoring boxing, you know nothing about fighting just shut ur pie hole and stop pretending to be some expert in scoring boxing fights. This fight was as lobsided as a championship fight can be, Pacman dominated the entire fight toyed with Bradley for the majority of the rounds and made a complete joke of him. Bradley was gassed by round 5. Pathetic is the word to describe your defense.
    U, Christ, and SBR John are all pretty close to seeing what i see when i watch a fight and all four of us had the same opinion but this guy saw something else with his so called experience lol.

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    People saying this is bad for boxing, quite the opposite, this is GREAT for boxing.

    Everyone talking about this pointless fight everywhere, now they'll want to tune in to the rematch to see "revenge/justice".

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  18. #333

    hbo was actually bitching about the judges before the fight but, they were bitching about it because it may favor pac. they were like vegas should of brought a new judge in.

  19. #334

    Why is everyone arguing with this Araiwa clown. He says that he has been involved with boxing, and scoring fights, for 30 years. Wouldn't we expect him to be incompentent? Not to mention, he is on a gamling forum. Nothing wrong there, guy who judges fights is a dengenerate!

  20. #335

    I had this 116-112 Pacman
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    Quote Originally Posted by neverstoppers23 View Post
    i don't buy that story, every time a star says something very ignorant and then tries to back-out. he said what he said. and really i have a problem with anyone who claims to have just found god and becomes all self-righteous like pac did.


    as others said, it seems f'd up about the pre-fight bradly was waiting like 30 mins because pac-man wanted to watch the totality of a basketball game?

    but after last pac's last fight, that was the one where he should of lost. and a-lot of people were actually roaring about.
    wtf are you talking about? manny never had to back out cause he never said it! the reporter admitted he lied and added the part about leviticus 20:13. manny hasnt even read the book of leviticus yet!!!!

    if a reporter writes that lebron said everyone in cleveland are gay and should be killed, then later admitted he made it all up.... you would still hold lebron accountable for something he never said???? dont be friggin ridiculous.

    hours before the fight, i said the fight was scheduled for midnight and it began within 15 mins of scheduled time. 15-30 mins is perfectly normal for the main event. so stop acting like manny is some primadonna who held up the fight or something.

  23. #338

    with the bad decision and all i STILL dont see anything that pac did that would let me think we could be floyd short of the judges ******* it up like last night

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  25. #340

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffie View Post
    There was like 1000 Filipinos watching on the big screen at my local casino they cried when Manny lost.
    not gonna lie it was pretty funny.
    lol.

  26. #341

    All my parlays yesterday, killed...haha damn. At least the fight was free....I guess.

  27. #342

    Sucks for you guys, my money was on Bradley. And once the fight was over I was dead tired so I went to bed (before the decision) KNOWING Bradley got his ass kicked. Get on my book this morning like "why do I have too much money?"

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  29. #344

    Boxing is dead, they need something like this to shake things up and get people talking about the sport again

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  30. #345

    even floyd mayweather sr thinks manny won....

    *“I didn’t score the fight, I can just tell you. I knew Pacquiao won. I felt he won the fight. I felt like there was a gap, where you could see who was winning,” Floyd Sr. told ESPN.com’s Brett Okamoto.
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    *He added that despite Bradley’s effort, he thinks that it didn’t matched with Pacquiao’s punches.

  31. #346

    Quote Originally Posted by terpkeg View Post
    Why is everyone arguing with this Araiwa clown. He says that he has been involved with boxing, and scoring fights, for 30 years. Wouldn't we expect him to be incompentent? Not to mention, he is on a gamling forum. Nothing wrong there, guy who judges fights is a dengenerate!
    This guy gets it.

    His posts should include a disclaimer.

    This message is sponsored by Top Rank Inc. and the Nevada State Athletic Commission

    Nothing out of the ordinary for fixes in boxing. It happens all the time, just rarely at this stage (at least to the draw). The whole world saw this one. New low, even for Bob Arum.

  32. #347

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    i think pac-man knew he was gonna lose. no way he would be that calm after that decision. probably vegas paid him extra $10 mil.
    No. It is because he is a classy guy with respect for situations.

    If it had been Mayweather getting robbed he would have started crying. He would have swore up and down. He would have called everyone names and pouted all the way to the dressing room.

    He and Roger are already showing their ignorance and stupidity by saying Bradley won that fight.

    That was the only way Mayweather can duck Pacman. Since Pacman now "lost". Mayweather can just say he doesn't have to fight him. So of course they will run with the thought of Bradley winning that. Just makes them look like fools really.

    Boxing was dying out other than Pacman and Mayweather fights. This may have just ****** the sport big time.

    Not sure why people would fork over 70 bucks to watch Mayweather win on a cheap shot or fights awarded to guys who didn't even win a round.

    Boxing isn't real.

  33. #348

    Quote Originally Posted by AraiWa View Post
    Thing is, I had it for Pacquiao 115-113! I just think if you go round by round and watch the fight 10x, you might end up with a different score every time. This means it was/is closer than alot of people are willing to say.
    You are the only one other than a few paid off judges to even think this.

    Majority wins.

    You are wrong. But thanks for the opinion.

  34. #349

    this araiwa sounds like "wantitall4moi".... same long winded posts and claims of expertise.

    from all his boasting that bradley deserved the win, i bet there isnt a single post where he said bradley won or deserved to win prior to the announcement.

    just another post-game expert.


  35. #350

    You realize this was all orchestrated in house... right? As in, Top Rank decided they don't want the Mayweather fight. They (with the cooperation of the WBO) strategically eliminated the possibility of the fight altogether with corrupt judging. Pacquiao became a martyr for his boss my friend.

    Pacquiao wins the re-match. We're not going to be hearing about Floyd. We're going to hear "Hey, let's have the rubber match next summer"

    If Tim Bradley wins that... well, I'd say Top Rank would try making THAT fight with Mayweather. But after last night, there is no faith Bob Arum is approaching that negotiation in good faith. He'll price Bradley out and milk that train.
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