[thetrinity]

i think detroit lions got him as a FA.

[bobby heenan]

i think detroit lions got him as a FA.

they did....

mixed reviews on him .....some believe hes a winner...and he did pretty well in a big game agaisnt va tech....others dont feel he has adequate arm strength and that he benefited from guys running wide open....he could hit alot of wide open guys running seams.....but that he wont be able to make nfl throws.....

[tony_come]

He's the next great qb in the nfl

Time

[bobby heenan]

College football is like pee wee football to the nfl ......dude lucky to get free agent contract...

nice avatar....classic album

ya i agree....nobody thinks he can really drive the ball and get enough on it to make nfl throws.....some believe you can get by without that in the nfl and offset it with great timing.....but not enough believed in him to actually use a pick on him

[Br0nxer]

What happened

What happened is the guy could never play a down in the nfl

Dont care whose practice squad hes on. He will never see the field in a regular season game

Beating the living piss out of nevada or smu is a lot different then playing on sundays

There are a thousand guys who were bmoc in college and broke all types of records who never got a sniff in the nfl

[Br0nxer]

Just seems like 32 teams with like 8 picks apiece someone would've taken a shot on the winningest QB in college football history, I mean not even good enough for a 250th pick?

Nope

For the most part these guys know what they are doing

If he was good enough he woulda got drafted.

[thetrinity]

bronxers right, if anyone thought he had a prayer he would have got drafted. no one thinks hes good enough to be a third string qb.

[Sam Odom]

guy is barely 5' 11" - the days of fran tarkenton are long over in the NFL

[HoulihansTX]

If Patriots did not draft Tom Brady, he would have probably been an undrafted FA. People act like the Patriots are some geniuses for taking him in the 6th round. 5th, 6th, so on rounds are not even guaranteed contracts.

If Colt McCoy, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Senaca Wallace, (Fill in blank with weak arm shitty QB) are making starts, then Moore should have his chance in the league

[bobby heenan]

If Patriots did not draft Tom Brady, he would have probably been an undrafted FA. People act like the Patriots are some geniuses for taking him in the 6th round. 5th, 6th, so on rounds are not even guaranteed contracts.

If Colt McCoy, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Senaca Wallace, (Fill in blank with weak arm shitty QB) are making starts, then Moore should have his chance in the league

i dont know who acts like the patriots are geniuses for drafting tom...i mean....the guys who did draft him sure dont....scott pioli said he keeps a framed picture of dave stachelski on his desk to remind him that if he was so smart he would have taken brady before stachelski......who was a TE from boise st ironically

[yisman]

This dude goes undrafted? He's the winningest QB in college football history and no one even wants to take a shot on him in any round of the draft?

I tell ya if you aint 6'5 or taller (or run like Vick in the case of blacks) you're ****** at QB

more like 6'2. Plenty of good QBs shorter than 6'5.

Teams just prefer guys 6'2 who can see downfield better.

You also see this with pitchers.

[TheMoneyShot]

That fuking Kellen... how games did that dic weed cost me in football? Good. Hope he never plays in the NFL. Fuking nerd.

[thetrinity]

im glad someone brought up brady, it was more the fact he got jerked around at michigan then anything why he went so late. he was constantly battling drew henson for playing time.

[Sunde91]

Graham Harrell, Case Keenum

[bobby heenan]

im glad someone brought up brady, it was more the fact he got jerked around at michigan then anything why he went so late. he was constantly battling drew henson for playing time.

...ya brady started every game...but he was always looking over his shoulder....henson was one of the biggest recruits in michigan history.....the number 1 player in his class and was supposed to have the tools brady didnt have

[TheMoneyShot]

No one knew Brady's intelligence and mind for the game. The kid was practically born with it... But he just needed someone to give him a chance.

[Bcatswin]

[Br0nxer]

Theres somebody like kurt warner

Stocking shelves to superbowl mvp but thats one in a billion

Mega millions shit

Guy just isnt good enough

[bobby heenan]

No one knew Brady's intelligence and mind for the game. The kid was practically born with it... But he just needed someone to give him a chance.

agreed.....i think most underestimated the value of desire to succeed and work ethic too

he almost left michigan too.....the guy was like 5th on the depth chart when he arrived.....

i think the funny thing is too...most consider his rise in the nfl fate....because of the bledsoe injury....but people in the organization and hardcore patriot fans know the move was coming sooner or later.....belichick was becoming increasingly annoyed with bledsoe and his style...his penchant for trying to make big throws downfield instead of trying to manage the game.....bledsoe had just signed a big deal...so there was some pressure early for belichick to keep bledsoe starting....but eventuall, if they werent winning, he was going to tell kraft he was gonna make a change or he could fire him

[Sam Odom]

Someone should do this... Research the number of completions Moore had at B.State where the Receiver was open without a defender within >5yds (meaning wide ass open)

IMO - would be a very high % compared to QBs playing in a real conference

[yisman]

...ya brady started every game...but he was always looking over his shoulder....henson was one of the biggest recruits in michigan history.....the number 1 player in his class and was supposed to have the tools brady didnt have

Started every game? He was a backup for two years. He only played two seasons. So yes, during those seasons he started every game, but that doesn't mean much compared to someone like Kellen Moore.

When he got there, he was actually seventh (!) on the depth chart.

[bobby heenan]

Started every game? He was a backup for two years. He only played two seasons. So yes, during those seasons he started every game, but that doesn't mean much compared to someone like Kellen Moore.

When he got there, he was actually seventh (!) on the depth chart.

i was talking about starting every game while both he and henson were there

[TheMoneyShot]

Started every game? He was a backup for two years. He only played two seasons. So yes, during those seasons he started every game, but that doesn't mean much compared to someone like Kellen Moore.

When he got there, he was actually seventh (!) on the depth chart.

I will give Moore some credit... you know how a QB sometimes misses a progression? Sometimes players get wide open on several plays... but the QB is always in a pressure situation and never gets to that read. Did Moore ever miss a guy who was wide open? I never heard an announcer say... OMG That guy was wide open and Moore couldn't find him! That's where Moore has some talent... (or perhaps the offensive line gave him this talent)... because he never missed a Wide Open Player. Hope someone lynches him real soon though...

[bobby heenan]

I will give Moore some credit... you know how a QB sometimes misses a progression? Sometimes players get wide open on several plays... but the QB is always in a pressure situation and never gets to that read. Did Moore ever miss a guy who was wide open? I never heard an announcer say... OMG That guy was wide open and Moore couldn't find him! That's where Moore has some talent... (or perhaps the offensive line gave him this talent)... because he never missed a Wide Open Player. Hope someone lynches him real soon though...

agreed....he was always able to find the guys that were free...and seemingly wide open...especially down the middle of the field....but thats where the questions come up about him....is he big enough to hold up against an nfl rush....does he have the footwork neccessary to move in the pocket...the natural feel for a pass rush....the ability to see over a pass rush.....the ability to squeeze a ball in there in the face of a pass rush

brady has some of the best footwork ive seen from a qb...and a great natural feel for a pass rush

[Sam Odom]

I will give Moore some credit... you know how a QB sometimes misses a progression? Sometimes players get wide open on several plays... but the QB is always in a pressure situation and never gets to that read. Did Moore ever miss a guy who was wide open? I never heard an announcer say... OMG That guy was wide open and Moore couldn't find him! That's where Moore has some talent... (or perhaps the offensive line gave him this talent)... because he never missed a Wide Open Player. Hope someone lynches him real soon though...

Please...

The defenses he faced in most part were awful... pitiful !!

Just imagine is Jordan Jefferson (black kid at LSU) had been B.State QB ?!! His #s would had been better ALL A ROUND - And he was a C grade SEC QB. Jordan Jefferson would have been drafted if he had played at B.State

[HoulihansTX]

Yep playing QB in the SEC = start status in the NFL. Rex Grossman/Jamarcus Russell/Greg McElroy.

Please continue to type useless info fellas. Needed a good lunchtime laugh.