[picantel]

I wanted to try a small deposit to check out their 10% rebate on horse racing but they have a rating of D. How much risk is there?

[magnavox]

Go with Pinnacle -- there you have 7% rebate on all wagers.

[raiders72001]

will betroyal scam me?

a better question is will you scam them

[picantel]

aren't you the comedian. I see that Cris is starting to cut off their wagering right before they load the gate. They are learning finally not to cut it so close. You know raiders since you are so wordly go to Cris with ticket #590816. They have my bet exactly 1 minute past post which is a pile of crap since I was actually a few seconds early. Get the race and hunt down the race replay. Then find the postime they list, the time Cris lists my bet, and look at the video replay which usually shows a clock right before it goes off. Bingo. Of course, you could just run your mouth. I do not have a DRF subscription so I am not sure where I can find any replays for free.

[JoshW]

Unless you have an overwhelming reason to play with them, I would stay away. You clearly can get some good bets and deals, but you also have to worry, more than most books, whether you will get paid. Just my opinion.

[picantel]

I only mentioned it because if you try it out and deposit just $100 they will 100% match it. Of course, the rollover is 10x but I figured hey let's see what happens. First I have to make the rollover though lol.

[picantel]

The code is RU100 btw if you are interested. You will have to put it in the promo code and then contact them to get it.

[picantel]

Ok hit a race on my 2nd try. Unfortunately they cut the betting off with about 7 minutes to go which sorta sucks. I like the #1 horse at Retama race #1 Just validation. Oddly enough, and stupidly enough, it seems that betroyal may make you split up the entires. I wonder how they would pay a 1-3-1 tri for example. Anyway, 2 starts back the 1 was 2-1 ML and went off near 4-1. The #4 horse easily beat him. In the last race the jockey fell from the #4 horse and the #1 horse went off like 11-1 and got 2nd. I bet Just Validation at 18-1 or something like that with 10 minutes to go. I took a 1-4-7 tri which came in and paid $80 on a $2 bet. Oddly enough with 1 minute left the #1 got dropped from 13-1 to 3-1. At post he went to 8/5. Someone knew something and sure enough the #1 came up the rail and won by around 3. Now let us see if betroyal pays the horse bet. I will let you guys know if I hit the rollover and try to withdrawal on what happens.

[jjgold]

If you bet when horse load the gate offshore your asking for trouble

Cris did nothing wrong

[pags11]

I'd stay away from these guys...but I don't bet horses and don't have a clear understanding on all that has happened...

[picantel]

Let me explain to you JJ a correct business model. Customer has a problem with a business. Instead of stating well duh our ticket says this and another company says this so we are right you instead actually take the time to investigate i.e. in this case obtain some video replay, compare the time on the replays, ect. The simple fact is they are in a country that does nothing to them nor does it force them to investigate these matters. I know my bets were made before the gate opened. If this was in the US I woulda filed suit already and subpoened all the information. The simple fact that this happened more than once should be a warning shot to Cris to either stop betting 1 minute before post or actually investigate these matters instead of taking 'the customer is always wrong and I am not regulated nor required to anyway' approach. Your constant pro-book approach leads me to believe you may be blowing more than just little old men.