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    Trent Richardson one of the most overrated rbs in nfl draft in a long time

    Browns were completely out of their mind trading up one pick to get this kid. Physically, he is a beast but he's not versatile, he's not that fast, and he's not a great blocker.

    In today's game you need a running back who can not only run the football but catch out of the backfield and pass block. He should do fine as a workhorse back but he will never turn out to be worthy of a number 3 overall selection.

    Running backs are a dime a dozen nowadays:

    Foster (undrafted)
    Rice (late 2nd round)
    Jones-Drew (late 2nd round)
    McCoy (late 2nd round)
    Gore (3rd round)

    I could go on and on and on and on. The only early draft pick I can think of is Adrian Peterson and T-Rich doesn't even come close to Peterson.

    This will go down as an awful pick. Not saying he will be a bust but you don't use 3rd overall selections on running backs unless they are once in a generation.

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    Time will tell, I think you are wrong.

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    I thought he was one of the surest things in the entire first round. You know what you are going to get, and he is going to be able to provide it immediately.

    Wait for what you see after he has a NFL offseason to prepare with a contract and staff in place.

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    I think all RBs are. How many teams have a good back nowadays?

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    He is overrated like Mark Ingram. I hope.

    Browns stuck themselves with a senior citizen at QB and still don't have a WR to throw to (Should of drafted Blackmon at 4). Let's see what they do in the other rounds of the draft.

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    I think you are wrong my friend. I think hes the real deal

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    For the record, I never said he won't be a solid back. In fact, I emphasized that he will probably have some success and be a good workhorse back. The point is that he's nowhere near worthy of a 3rd overall selection and that the Browns are idiots for trading up one pick to get him, thus giving up later picks.

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    Good O-line that can create holes = good RB. Doesn't matter who is back there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samgurt View Post
    Good O-line that can create holes = good RB. Doesn't matter who is back there.
    This ^

    Getting a running back in the first round has to be the most -EV play in drafting beyond getting a Kicker or Punter. They have a short shelf life and if it were me I would want my first round pick to be on the team longer than 5-7 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    Browns were completely out of their mind trading up one pick to get this kid. Physically, he is a beast but he's not versatile, he's not that fast, and he's not a great blocker.

    In today's game you need a running back who can not only run the football but catch out of the backfield and pass block. He should do fine as a workhorse back but he will never turn out to be worthy of a number 3 overall selection.

    Running backs are a dime a dozen nowadays:

    Foster (undrafted)
    Rice (late 2nd round)
    Jones-Drew (late 2nd round)
    McCoy (late 2nd round)
    Gore (3rd round)

    I could go on and on and on and on. The only early draft pick I can think of is Adrian Peterson and T-Rich doesn't even come close to Peterson.

    This will go down as an awful pick. Not saying he will be a bust but you don't use 3rd overall selections on running backs unless they are once in a generation.
    LMAO - he's not that fast and he can't block? Have you watched him?! He's the most complete back to come out since AP - he's a 3 down back

    He's fast, he can catch, he can block - he's an every down back, btw almost every team in the top of the draft wanted this guy

    you are clueless

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    Richardson runs way too stiff. He's so fukkin strong that he doesn't have any real quick moves to him. He doesn't strike me as a guy who can make sharp cut backs and that's a huge part of the nfl running game.

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    Because of RB's injury outlook, the only RB I'd draft is a late pick guy...someone that runs north-south...Steeler-style. They'd be more powerful than fast and they'd have the physicality needed to pass block. F that Reggie Bush crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samgurt View Post
    Good O-line that can create holes = good RB. Doesn't matter who is back there.
    And most teams have more than one back to change off. Look at the two Super Bowl teams this year. The highest yardage back between both is ranked 27th in the league.

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    lots of good analysis in here, feel like i learned something. especially liked the points about richardson no lateral quickness, and opening holes = good runningback.

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    Have to love the internet, gives everyone a platform to be a moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    For the record, I never said he won't be a solid back. In fact, I emphasized that he will probably have some success and be a good workhorse back. The point is that he's nowhere near worthy of a 3rd overall selection and that the Browns are idiots for trading up one pick to get him, thus giving up later picks.
    i agree, it's not like minny was gonna take him. but he should put up some good numbers for fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t-wizzle View Post
    The only early draft pick I can think of is Adrian Peterson and T-Rich doesn't even come close to Peterson.
    they are different backs. richardson is emmitt 2.0

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    seriously, i'm no GM or coach myself, but i thought shurmur was supposed to be legit for the browns? aren't him and heckert supposed to be pushing the right buttons? to me it seems like the browns have made awful moves all offseason and so far through this draft..

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    When healthy McFadden is pretty explosive

    He was a high draft pick

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    Diregarding injury chances of running backs and short life, it was a good pick.

    If you want to argue that it is just not smart to draft any RB that high, then you probably have a point.

    But he is not an every year type of talent. Chances of being top yard producing back in the league his first year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doylfish View Post
    seriously, i'm no GM or coach myself, but i thought shurmur was supposed to be legit for the browns? aren't him and heckert supposed to be pushing the right buttons? to me it seems like the browns have made awful moves all offseason and so far through this draft..
    What makes you say that ? FTR, Heckert has the final call on personnel, ultimately these are his picks. What awful moves do you speak of ? Letting Hillis go ? Considering all Hillis could muster up was a 1 year deal for 3 mil, it doesn't seem like a lot of teams were too interested in him. Richardson > Hillis

    Heckert stated from day 1, this team will be built through the draft. When he took over, there was 0 talent on this team aside from Joe Thomas. In his first draft, he had 6 picks, and he yielded 4 bonafide starters. ( Taylor, Sheard, Little, Pinkston ) and he fleeced Atlanta for moving up to 6. This year, he has/had 13 picks. Browns fans should be giddy that Heckert is in charge of those picks. The guy can draft. You need even more evidence ? Look at his drafts in Philadelphia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfaneReality View Post
    What makes you say that ? FTR, Heckert has the final call on personnel, ultimately these are his picks. What awful moves do you speak of ? Letting Hillis go ? Considering all Hillis could muster up was a 1 year deal for 3 mil, it doesn't seem like a lot of teams were too interested in him. Richardson > Hillis

    Heckert stated from day 1, this team will be built through the draft. When he took over, there was 0 talent on this team aside from Joe Thomas. In his first draft, he had 6 picks, and he yielded 4 bonafide starters. ( Taylor, Sheard, Little, Pinkston ) and he fleeced Atlanta for moving up to 6. This year, he has/had 13 picks. Browns fans should be giddy that Heckert is in charge of those picks. The guy can draft. You need even more evidence ? Look at his drafts in Philadelphia.
    you might be right. i think cleveland had to move up to get richardson. there were other teams trying to move up to the third spot to get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    you might be right. i think cleveland had to move up to get richardson. there were other teams trying to move up to the third spot to get him.
    Heckert told media he knows for a fact there was an offer from Tampa Bay to move to 3 to take Richardson. He said he matched it. Minny GM Speilman comfirmed same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastern2 View Post
    LMAO - he's not that fast and he can't block? Have you watched him?! He's the most complete back to come out since AP - he's a 3 down back

    He's fast, he can catch, he can block - he's an every down back, btw almost every team in the top of the draft wanted this guy

    you are clueless
    you are fukkin clueless

    NFL is now a pass first league

    serviceable running backs are a dime a dozen

    not an important position anymore. shelf life very short

    drafting a running back before the third round is about as moronic as it gets

    get a clue kid

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    Trent Richardson is an animal.

    He's going to rip the NFL to shreds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillyFlyers View Post
    Trent Richardson is an animal.

    He's going to rip the NFL to shreds.
    regardless of whether he kills it or not it is not a smart pick in todays nfl to draft a RB that high

    short shelf life and serviceable running backs are a dime a dozen

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    trent will be a studd, they have a good o line, but play steelers, baltimore 2 times a year wont help. If he gets hurt that just something that happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Br0nxer View Post
    you are fukkin clueless

    NFL is now a pass first league

    serviceable running backs are a dime a dozen

    not an important position anymore. shelf life very short

    drafting a running back before the third round is about as moronic as it gets

    get a clue kid
    He's the best player in the draft moron, once in a generation Running back - check back w/me in a year - keep getting brainwashed by the espn idiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastern2 View Post
    He's the best player in the draft moron, once in a generation Running back - check back w/me in a year - keep getting brainwashed by the espn idiots
    your lost kid

    i don't need any moron from espn to tell me anything

    i have forgotten more about sports than every personality there knows combined

    FYI-head on over to the newbie forum-dont know if anyone made you aware of this but your opinion means zero at this place until you get yourself 1000 posts

    run along
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    agree, he won't fail in the NFL, but not worth anywhere near the #3 pick

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    He isn't as fast as Adrian Peterson on the 40 yard dash. But he is faster than Mark Ingram. Should be interesting to see how he performs against the Steelers and Ravens.

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    ty lou

    I love trent

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    Quote Originally Posted by eastern2 View Post
    He's the best player in the draft moron, once in a generation Running back - check back w/me in a year - keep getting brainwashed by the espn idiots
    Best RB. Not player.

    Unless the Browns upgrade big time at WR, then defenses will stack the box against TR, and force Weeden to throw it. I would be surprised if TR doesn't get injured this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BettingWizard View Post
    agree, he won't fail in the NFL, but not worth anywhere near the #3 pick
    Exactly.

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    Barring injury... Big Star

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