[slugger]

Guys I did not want to bring it here but here is my story and posting only for others to learn from.

I was lurking here for a while and decided to sign up and post some and some guy here PM'ed asking if I wanted to bet with him and I said sure and we would settle up with Neteller.

He would e-mail me the lines and I would e-mail him back my plays and all was good when I lost I would send him the money. I lost a total of $9500 in a 5 week period and paid him in ful as it was a weekly settle no matter what the number was.

The last 2 weeks I won over $7200 and the guy does not answer my e-mails or phone calls as the line is disoconnected. Is there anyway I can do something about this?? How can I found out where he lives?? The poster does not post here much but must use the PM system for prey.

He made off with $9500. The lines were not bad lines either when I bet so it looked legit and he sounded honest and said he had over 75 players .

I need help

Thank You

[sergfro]

Hire some guys to go break his ankles

[natrass]

You say you were betting thousands of dollars by email with a guy who hardly ever posts anyway ... never mind whether you know him??? Sounds very odd.

[freebie]

were there no vigs involved? why bet with him and not a good sports book recommended by SBR?

[AK]

Contact BillDozer ASAP

He might be able to help.

Was the guys neteller this? ______@yahoo.com ?

That guy is no good

[freebie]

Sherman? another poster name sherman over at RX too.

[raiders72001]

freebie- Post his email address or neteller acct. If you do not want to post it publicly I can give you an email address. There's one guy that uses all the forums trying this scam and it may be him.

[slugger]

It sounded like legit and what is the difference betting with this guy or a local?? He gave me references also. Well I like to bet decent amounts and a lot of books on net dont like that and there are no hassles betting like this but I found out the hard way.

He had a posting handle at RX since 1999 so he has been around. I just sent him another e-mail and sent it 25 times in a row. He is gone of my AOL messenger also. I do not know what to do.

[sergfro]

post his information so we can try to help you

[Doug]

Sherman? another poster name sherman over at RX too.

I know RX Sherman, he has a few posts here as well, he just joined here a few days ago. I'm quite certain it's not the same person. His name may have been used because he is a prominant Rx poster.

[slugger]

Update:

I e-mailed and RX mod and explained my situation and he gave me is his IP address.

183.231.32.39

Can we do anything with this??

[Santo]

Make sure it's the same guy would be a start... anyone can use a net handle..

[slugger]

It is Santo, well I think it is. He says it was him on The RX

I feel like an idot now

[kalmikrazy]

If you value honesty and your hard earned money, i see no use in getting caught up in these situations. If you use a book from the SBR list than you would never have this problem. I have been with pinny for years now and never had a payout problem. I really do hope you get your money back and decide to stay away from these ass clowns in the future.

[picantel]

I called him up Slugger and he said you were trying to scam him out of 5k over the past year.

[picantel]

You may have to subpoena and move fast but it never hurts to call and ask:

Search results for: 183.231.32.39
OrgName: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
OrgID: IANA
Address: 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
City: Marina del Rey
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 90292-6695
Country: US

NetRange: 183.0.0.0 - 183.255.255.255
CIDR: 183.0.0.0/8
NetName: NET183
NetHandle: NET-183-0-0-0-0
Parent:
NetType: IANA Reserved
Comment:
RegDate: 1993-05-01
Updated: 2003-04-06

OrgAbuseHandle: IANA-IP-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Number
OrgAbusePhone: +1-310-301-5820
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@iana.org

OrgTechHandle: IANA-IP-ARIN
OrgTechName: Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Number
OrgTechPhone: +1-310-301-5820
OrgTechEmail: abuse@iana.org

[Doug]

Sherman isn't in CA, he's from the East coast.

[Aces]

I called him up Slugger and he said you were trying to scam him out of 5k over the past year.

LOL retaliation post.

[Sherman]

Sherman? another poster name sherman over at RX too.

Excuse me? What the hell do I have to do with this?

[tacomax]

Guys I did not want to bring it here but here is my story and posting only for others to learn from.

I was lurking here for a while and decided to sign up and post some and some guy here PM'ed asking if I wanted to bet with him and I said sure and we would settle up with Neteller.

He would e-mail me the lines and I would e-mail him back my plays and all was good when I lost I would send him the money. I lost a total of $9500 in a 5 week period and paid him in ful as it was a weekly settle no matter what the number was.

I don't get this.

You joined and started posting on this site on the 7th October. It is now the 12th October. How has all of this happened in 5 days?

[Bill Dozer]

I'm not sure what happened between posters and we will probably never know. This thread is good for others to see as a warning not to do business with people you don't know, but may end up in the private room if it becomes a he said, she said.

Slugger,
Sorry to hear about your experience. If any PMs were sent from SBR's forum, forward them over to a mod or myself.

Thanks

[Mudcat]

Excuse me? What the hell do I have to do with this?

Yeah. Please. Let's not start dragging real people into this on half-baked speculation.

I know it's just an internet handle but we all need to think about how we'd like our handles to start getting hacky-sacked around at another major site.

There is an important lesson in this thread. I can add that I have seen guys get stiffed many, many times betting with other posters on trust.

But let's not make this a witch hunt.

[why]

Damn dude what were you thinking, I am sorry for your losses but I think you might end up just using this as learning tool. I sincerly hope you recoupe your money but I don't like your chances, stay diligent and gl.

[Mudcat]

tacomax is exactly right by the way. The story doesn't even come close to making sense if you consider the timeline.

What's the deal?

[natrass]

I don't get this.

You joined and started posting on this site on the 7th October. It is now the 12th October. How has all of this happened in 5 days?

tacomax ... you are right not to get it I think. I think we have a fantasist on the forum.

[BuddyBear]

This makes no sense at all. First, the time situation for one thng. Second, why on earth would you be betting that much money with strangers. Just go to any book. I have hard time believing this story but if it is true sorry to hear about your loss Slugger

[slugger]

I did leave something out. The guy did give me $4300 for plays as I did play ball in the minors and have inside information on teams and unfortuntely the games I gave him lost. Hey it was not my problem, I never got a call .

But he still owes money

[freebie]

IP address belongs to ICANN. It's not any public IP. It's only reserve and I think he might be using some kinda proxy to get online.

[natrass]

Fellas ... this is a wind up, trust me!!

[Quarm]

sounds like a "JJ for Cris manager" deal rofl

[jjgold]

Slugger you steroid/tout fukkin junkie. Hey loser do you want me to post the PM you sent me trying to sell your so called "Sore Arm Pitcher Reports" for $400 you roosterlicker.

Has anyone else got a PM from this guy touting?? Something aint fukkin right here

Slugger get lost

[tacomax]

Slugger you steroid/tout fukkin junkie. Hey loser do you want me to post the PM you sent me trying to sell your so called "Sore Arm Pitcher Reports" for $400 you roosterlicker.

As the "GM" of SBR I would have thought you'd know that personal attacks and insults aren't welcomed here. And I would have thought that you'd be the last person to band about "roosterlicker" as an insult.

[jjgold]

Taxy so you do not care if another poster is trying to scam other members here with false claims about being some ex pitcher??

The jerkoff wanted $400 for probably some made up pitching report

[HAPPY BOY]

Man this shit is getting good fukkin righteous, ...... and now another tantilizing episode of "AS THE SBR TURNS. In our last episode Slugger claims to have been stiffed over 7k by a mysterious man named:Sherman, but is Slugger really who he says he is or is he really a steriod induced junkie trying to scam posters on bogus inside tips in Baseball. Please stay tuned as JJ and Slugger go at it this afternoon on "AS THE SBR TURNS!!