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    Vlad Guerrero in police custody following a bar brawl in the Dominican Republic

    Idle hands are the Devil’s workshop. Vlad Guerrero’s hands are idle for the first time during the baseball season in about 20 years, and if you believe the Dominican National Police, he was putting them to poor use last night. Assuming this translation is close to accurate, it sounds like he assaulted a police officer:
    The National Police on Tuesday announced an all points bulleting for the arrest of Major League Baseball star Vladimir Guerrero, for the alleged aggression against to a Police major and for unleashing a brawl in a discotheque.
    Police spokesman Maximo Baez said one of Guerrero’s brothers, two cousins and a worker are being held for their alleged part in the melee.
    “Police chief major general (Jose) Polanco instructed Baní regional (south) director general (Juan Ramon) de la Cruz Martinez to continue the pursuit,” Baez said.

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    Par for the course

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    Isn't he playing for anyone??

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    ^
    Nobody wants him, shame, one of the greatest hitters of our generations.

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    Who cares

    Nashy give me a winner today

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    Good for him. Holding his own, fukk them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Nashy give me a winner today
    Snakes -114 with Cahill

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    Yeah it is a shame. He still hits for average, .290 last year and .300 the year before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superjeff24 View Post
    Yeah it is a shame. He still hits for average, .290 last year and .300 the year before.
    Look closely, these are mother freaking all time great numbers !!!!!


    Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
    1996 21 MON NL 9 27 27 2 5 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 3 .185 .185 .296 .481 24 8 1 0 0 0 0 /98
    1997 22 MON NL 90 354 325 44 98 22 2 11 40 3 4 19 39 .302 .350 .483 .833 117 157 11 7 0 3 2 9/8 RoY-6
    1998 23 MON NL 159 677 623 108 202 37 7 38 109 11 9 42 95 .324 .371 .589 .960 150 367 15 7 0 5 13 *9 MVP-13
    1999 24 MON NL 160 674 610 102 193 37 5 42 131 14 7 55 62 .316 .378 .600 .978 146 366 18 7 0 2 14 *9 AS,MVP-11,SS
    2000 25 MON NL 154 641 571 101 197 28 11 44 123 9 10 58 74 .345 .410 .664 1.074 162 379 15 8 0 4 23 *9/D AS,MVP-6,SS
    2001 26 MON NL 159 671 599 107 184 45 4 34 108 37 16 60 88 .307 .377 .566 .943 139 339 24 9 0 3 24 *9 AS,MVP-24
    2002 27 MON NL 161 709 614 106 206 37 2 39 111 40 20 84 70 .336 .417 .593 1.010 160 364 20 6 0 5 32 *9 AS,MVP-4,SS
    2003 28 MON NL 112 467 394 71 130 20 3 25 79 9 5 63 53 .330 .426 .586 1.012 156 231 18 6 0 4 22 *9 MVP-17
    2004 29 ANA AL 156 680 612 124 206 39 2 39 126 15 3 52 74 .337 .391 .598 .989 157 366 19 8 0 8 14 *9D AS,MVP-1,SS
    2005 30 LAA AL 141 594 520 95 165 29 2 32 108 13 1 61 48 .317 .394 .565 .959 154 294 16 8 0 5 26 *9D AS,MVP-3,SS
    2006 31 LAA AL 156 665 607 92 200 34 1 33 116 15 5 50 68 .329 .382 .552 .934 138 335 16 4 0 4 25 *9D AS,MVP-9,SS
    2007 32 LAA AL 150 660 574 89 186 45 1 27 125 2 3 71 62 .324 .403 .547 .950 147 314 19 9 0 6 28 *9D AS,MVP-3,SS
    2008 33 LAA AL 143 600 541 85 164 31 3 27 91 5 3 51 77 .303 .365 .521 .886 130 282 27 4 0 4 16 9D MVP-14
    2009 34 LAA AL 100 407 383 59 113 16 1 15 50 2 1 19 56 .295 .334 .460 .794 107 176 16 4 0 1 3 D/9
    2010 35 TEX AL 152 643 593 83 178 27 1 29 115 4 5 35 60 .300 .345 .496 .841 119 294 19 9 0 6 5 *D9/7 AS,MVP-11,SS
    2011 36 BAL AL 145 590 562 60 163 30 1 13 63 2 2 17 56 .290 .317 .416 .733 101 234 23 7 0 4 3 *D
    16 Yrs 2147 9059 8155 1328 2590 477 46 449 1496 181 94 737 985 .318 .379 .553 .931 140 4506 277 103 0 64 250
    162 Game Avg. 162 684 615 100 195 36 3 34 113 14 7 56 74 .318 .379 .553 .931 140 340 21 8 0 5 19

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    The main reason he is not in the Majors is his price. Veterans do not come cheap, and he lacks versatility.

    All that said, I can not believe the Yanks chose Raul Ibanz over Jonny Damon/Vlad. Ibanz has been done for 2 years and counting.

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    No armor, no batting gloves

    dude was a rock
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    Loved Vlad as a player.

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    Give a cop a little rank down here and they act like God. Waiting to hear all the details, shots were fired apparently, unusual for Vlad to get in trouble....he has done a lot for his hometown - schools, medical clinics, baseball fields etc. He was with some familymembers, might be a case of him coming to one of their defense......

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Look closely, these are mother freaking all time great numbers !!!!!


    Year Age Tm Lg G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+ TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB Pos Awards
    1996 21 MON NL 9 27 27 2 5 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 3 .185 .185 .296 .481 24 8 1 0 0 0 0 /98
    1997 22 MON NL 90 354 325 44 98 22 2 11 40 3 4 19 39 .302 .350 .483 .833 117 157 11 7 0 3 2 9/8 RoY-6
    1998 23 MON NL 159 677 623 108 202 37 7 38 109 11 9 42 95 .324 .371 .589 .960 150 367 15 7 0 5 13 *9 MVP-13
    1999 24 MON NL 160 674 610 102 193 37 5 42 131 14 7 55 62 .316 .378 .600 .978 146 366 18 7 0 2 14 *9 AS,MVP-11,SS
    2000 25 MON NL 154 641 571 101 197 28 11 44 123 9 10 58 74 .345 .410 .664 1.074 162 379 15 8 0 4 23 *9/D AS,MVP-6,SS
    2001 26 MON NL 159 671 599 107 184 45 4 34 108 37 16 60 88 .307 .377 .566 .943 139 339 24 9 0 3 24 *9 AS,MVP-24
    2002 27 MON NL 161 709 614 106 206 37 2 39 111 40 20 84 70 .336 .417 .593 1.010 160 364 20 6 0 5 32 *9 AS,MVP-4,SS
    2003 28 MON NL 112 467 394 71 130 20 3 25 79 9 5 63 53 .330 .426 .586 1.012 156 231 18 6 0 4 22 *9 MVP-17
    2004 29 ANA AL 156 680 612 124 206 39 2 39 126 15 3 52 74 .337 .391 .598 .989 157 366 19 8 0 8 14 *9D AS,MVP-1,SS
    2005 30 LAA AL 141 594 520 95 165 29 2 32 108 13 1 61 48 .317 .394 .565 .959 154 294 16 8 0 5 26 *9D AS,MVP-3,SS
    2006 31 LAA AL 156 665 607 92 200 34 1 33 116 15 5 50 68 .329 .382 .552 .934 138 335 16 4 0 4 25 *9D AS,MVP-9,SS
    2007 32 LAA AL 150 660 574 89 186 45 1 27 125 2 3 71 62 .324 .403 .547 .950 147 314 19 9 0 6 28 *9D AS,MVP-3,SS
    2008 33 LAA AL 143 600 541 85 164 31 3 27 91 5 3 51 77 .303 .365 .521 .886 130 282 27 4 0 4 16 9D MVP-14
    2009 34 LAA AL 100 407 383 59 113 16 1 15 50 2 1 19 56 .295 .334 .460 .794 107 176 16 4 0 1 3 D/9
    2010 35 TEX AL 152 643 593 83 178 27 1 29 115 4 5 35 60 .300 .345 .496 .841 119 294 19 9 0 6 5 *D9/7 AS,MVP-11,SS
    2011 36 BAL AL 145 590 562 60 163 30 1 13 63 2 2 17 56 .290 .317 .416 .733 101 234 23 7 0 4 3 *D
    16 Yrs 2147 9059 8155 1328 2590 477 46 449 1496 181 94 737 985 .318 .379 .553 .931 140 4506 277 103 0 64 250
    162 Game Avg. 162 684 615 100 195 36 3 34 113 14 7 56 74 .318 .379 .553 .931 140 340 21 8 0 5 19
    great hitter but his obp is pretty damn low since he doesn't get enough walks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghenghis Kahn View Post
    great hitter but his obp is pretty damn low since he doesn't get enough walks.
    Definitely a hacker, but a career .379 ob% is great for a dude who averaged 34 hr/yr and only 74 k's/yr. 67 dudes struck out over 100 times last year in the league just to give some perspective on how little Vlad K'd fora power hitter.

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    One of my favorite hitters since Montreal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redscot View Post
    Definitely a hacker, but a career .379 ob% is great for a dude who averaged 34 hr/yr and only 74 k's/yr. 67 dudes struck out over 100 times last year in the league just to give some perspective on how little Vlad K'd fora power hitter.
    +1
    Considering the average OBA for MLB is about .320.

    LEAGUE AVERAGES GP AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI AVG OBP SLG OPS
    American League 162 5542 723 1429 286 29 162 2260 689 .258 .322 .407 .730
    National League 162 5507 668 1391 275 30 143 2155 635 .253 .319 .391 .710
    Major League Baseball 162 5524 694 1409 280 30 152 2204 660 .255 .320 .399 .719

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redscot View Post
    Give a cop a little rank down here and they act like God. Waiting to hear all the details, shots were fired apparently, unusual for Vlad to get in trouble....he has done a lot for his hometown - schools, medical clinics, baseball fields etc. He was with some familymembers, might be a case of him coming to one of their defense......
    I got an update, starting to look like the whole thing is over blown.
    Vlad turned himself in, not even going to be detained.

    Former major leaguer Vladimir Guerrero said he has surrendered to police after authorities contend he attacked a police officer in a disco. Guerrero denied being part of an attack.
    Police said no charges have been filed against Guerrero following the mayhem in Nizao, about 40 miles from Santo Domingo.
    Maximo Baez Aybar, a spokesman for the police in the Dominican Republic, maintained Guerrero "physically attacked" police officer Renato Pena Rojas after a brawl broke out in the disco. Baez Aybar asked that Guerrero turn himself in "so the case can be put in the hands of the justice system."
    "At no time did I attack anyone, nor was I fleeing," Guerrero told The Associated Press. "I presented myself at the jail last night after the complaint from the disco, and this morning first thing I went to the police that are handling the case."
    His lawyer, Polivio Rivas, added: "All that is being alleged is false. Vladimir did not attack anyone -- absolutely no one. We're going to follow the process, but everything will be cleared up."
    Guerrero, once one of the most feared hitters in baseball, is a free agent after finishing last season with the Baltimore Orioles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I got an update, starting to look like the whole thing is over blown.
    Vlad turned himself in, not even going to be detained.

    Former major leaguer Vladimir Guerrero said he has surrendered to police after authorities contend he attacked a police officer in a disco. Guerrero denied being part of an attack.
    Police said no charges have been filed against Guerrero following the mayhem in Nizao, about 40 miles from Santo Domingo.
    Maximo Baez Aybar, a spokesman for the police in the Dominican Republic, maintained Guerrero "physically attacked" police officer Renato Pena Rojas after a brawl broke out in the disco. Baez Aybar asked that Guerrero turn himself in "so the case can be put in the hands of the justice system."
    "At no time did I attack anyone, nor was I fleeing," Guerrero told The Associated Press. "I presented myself at the jail last night after the complaint from the disco, and this morning first thing I went to the police that are handling the case."
    His lawyer, Polivio Rivas, added: "All that is being alleged is false. Vladimir did not attack anyone -- absolutely no one. We're going to follow the process, but everything will be cleared up."
    Guerrero, once one of the most feared hitters in baseball, is a free agent after finishing last season with the Baltimore Orioles.
    Yeah, it hardly even made the news here. Even if something did go down, with Vlad's good reputation and deep pockets it would be brushed under the rug.

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    damn he was an above-average hitter too

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    Vlad wants to be starter...
    But his outfield skills sux

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    ^
    Nobody wants him, shame, one of the greatest hitters of our generations.

    Agreed!!!!!!!!

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    dodgers padres and others could use his bat

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    Quote Originally Posted by starfire View Post
    Vlad wants to be starter...
    But his outfield skills sux
    he always had a cannon for an arm

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    Quote Originally Posted by teaserpleaser View Post
    dodgers padres and others could use his bat
    Tampa was willing to give head case Manny a shot, Vlad would give them some presence in that lineup as a DH and a solid vet. Luke Scott and Keppinger, I think they could find room.

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