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    Is sports betting legal? No.

    Sport betting is illegal in every state of USA but las Vegas except for sports lotteries which are done in very few states. is illegal to bet online and with bookies. You might bet with a friend as long as there is no bookie in the middle. The use of the bookie make it illegal. You also can bet in certain cruises or ships as long as you are 3 miles offshores. It will be consider a misdemeanor outside of las Vegas if you get caught. Even calling someone in las Vegas to take your bet is illegal as not telephone or internet may be used to place bets outside of Las Vegas. Why 15 millions of americans bet even though it is illegal? because illegal betting hasn't been a priority of the goverment, the police force or any other institution in the country. Besides if it was legal the numbers of american betting would probably be 150 millions not 15. Should you bet? If you are young and want to work in workplaces where a measdemeanor will affect your chances of being hire you might consider avoid betting. Yes the chances of getting caught are very low, but your chances of winning in the long run are even lower. The statute of limitation for illegal betting is 1 year. So if you stop betting now in 12 month you are innocent of all counts even if you get caught.

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    you're an idiot it's not illegal you ******* moron

    It's illegal to accept a bet not place a bet gtfo
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    lol

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    Kid didn't drink a beer until he was 21 either. Lol

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    nvm, not worth my time

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    Las Vegas isn't a state.

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    This subject has been covered ad nauseam in this forum yet there is always someone coming up and posting misinformation on it.

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    Sportsbooking (taking bets) is not a mesdemeanor is a felony, placing bets is a mesdemeanor. I never thought there were so many mental retarded in this forum. You has to click only once in google and you will see all the articles of the law explaining the legality of sports betting. Stop listening every dummy out there and go for the facts.

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    probettor,

    It depends on the state. By the way, did you know the unlicensed practice of law is illegal? To my knowledge, every state has laws against the unlicensed practice of law. Now, would any states define making a bullshit argument about the law as a practice of law? I don't know. But make sure you know the law before you summarize it.

    In Indiana (where I am licensed to practice law), placing a bet on the internet is no different from betting with a bookie or with a friend, or even playing poker for pennies. To my knowledge, only Washington has a different penalty for players using the internet to gamble. I don't know which states make any sort of gambling illegal, but I would be shocked if all of them did.
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    Justin, if it's illegal in Washington do you think other states will follow their lead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goblue12 View Post
    Las Vegas isn't a state.
    You beat me to it.

    Besides if the FEDS want you they will get you for something else. Not to mention they always go after the big fish first.

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    I do not care what are your opinions regarding the legality of betting. I dont even care what my opinion is. This is what I care about: The law:

    -CITE-
    18 USC Sec. 1084 01/07/2011

    -EXPCITE-
    TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
    PART I - CRIMES
    CHAPTER 50 - GAMBLING

    -HEAD-
    Sec. 1084. Transmission of wagering information; penalties

    -STATUTE-
    (a) Whoever being engaged in the business of betting or wagering
    knowingly uses a wire communication facility for the transmission
    in interstate or foreign commerce of bets or wagers or information
    assisting in the placing of bets or wagers on any sporting event or
    contest, or for the transmission of a wire communication which
    entitles the recipient to receive money or credit as a result of
    bets or wagers, or for information assisting in the placing of bets
    or wagers, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more
    than two years, or both.
    (b) Nothing in this section shall be construed to prevent the
    transmission in interstate or foreign commerce of information for
    use in news reporting of sporting events or contests, or for the
    transmission of information assisting in the placing of bets or
    wagers on a sporting event or contest from a State or foreign
    country where betting on that sporting event or contest is legal
    into a State or foreign country in which such betting is legal.
    (c) Nothing contained in this section shall create immunity from
    criminal prosecution under any laws of any State.
    (d) When any common carrier, subject to the jurisdiction of the
    Federal Communications Commission, is notified in writing by a
    Federal, State, or local law enforcement agency, acting within its
    jurisdiction, that any facility furnished by it is being used or
    will be used for the purpose of transmitting or receiving gambling
    information in interstate or foreign commerce in violation of
    Federal, State or local law, it shall discontinue or refuse, the
    leasing, furnishing, or maintaining of such facility, after
    reasonable notice to the subscriber, but no damages, penalty or
    forfeiture, civil or criminal, shall be found against any common
    carrier for any act done in compliance with any notice received
    from a law enforcement agency. Nothing in this section shall be
    deemed to prejudice the right of any person affected thereby to
    secure an appropriate determination, as otherwise provided by law,
    in a Federal court or in a State or local tribunal or agency, that
    such facility should not be discontinued or removed, or should be
    restored.
    (e) As used in this section, the term "State" means a State of
    the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of
    Puerto Rico, or a commonwealth, territory or possession of the
    United States.

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    Is sports betting legal? No.

    Was this the dumbest thread ever started? Maybe.

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    A regular punter is not "engaged in the business of betting"

    Only the bookie is

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    If any one here can copy and paste an article of the law stating that betting is legal outside las Vegas Nevada will be awarded with 100 dollar check. You just have to send me your address. I did copy and paste the article stating it is illegal.
    Advise to all of you: talk just a little about what you know and nothing about what you dont know.
    You have been brainwashed. Is time to open your eyes and look always for the truth.

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    State Dominant Factor Test Applied Social Gambling Allowed Penalty for Simple Gambling Penalty for Aggravated Gambling Express Internet Prohibition
    Alabama Yes Yes Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Alaska Yes Yes Misdemeanor Felony No
    Arizona No Yes Misdemeanor Felony No
    Arkansas No No Petty Misdemeanor No
    California Effectively, Yes Yes Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Colorado Questionable Yes Petty Misdemeanor No
    Connecticut Yes Yes Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Delaware Questionable Yes Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Dist. of Columbia Yes Probably Felony Felony No
    Florida No $10 Limit (1) Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Georgia Yes No Misdemeanor Felony No
    Hawaii Yes Yes Misdemeanor Felony No
    Idaho Yes No Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Illinois No No Misdemeanor Misdemeanor Yes
    Indiana Yes No Misdemeanor Felony Yes
    Iowa No No(2) Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Kansas Yes No Misdemeanor Felony No
    Kentucky Yes Yes Misdemeanor Felony No
    Louisiana No Yes Misdemeanor Felony Yes
    Maine Yes Yes Misdemeanor Felony No
    State Dominant Factor Test Applied Social Gambling Allowed Penalty for Simple Gambling Penalty for Aggravated Gambling Express Internet Prohibition
    Maryland No No Misdemeanor Felony No
    Massachusetts Yes Unclear Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Michigan Yes No (3) Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No (4)
    Minnesota Yes Yes Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Mississippi Yes No Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Missouri Yes No Misdemeanor (5) Felony No
    Montana Questionable Yes Misdemeanor Misdemeanor Yes
    Nebraska Yes No Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Nevada Yes Yes Misdemeanor Felony Yes
    New Hampshire Yes No Misdemeanor Felony No
    New Jersey Yes Yes Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No (6)
    New Mexico Yes Yes Misdemeanor Felony No
    New York Yes Yes Misdemeanor Felony No
    North Carolina Yes No Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    North Dakota Yes Yes (7) Misdemeanor Felony No
    Ohio Yes Yes Misdemeanor Felony No
    Oklahoma Yes No Misdemeanor Felony No
    Oregon Yes Yes Misdemeanor Felony Yes
    Pennsylvania Yes Unclear Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Rhode Island Yes No Misdemeanor Felony No
    South Carolina Yes Yes Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    South Dakota Yes No Misdemeanor Misdemeanor Yes (8)
    Tennessee Questionable No Misdemeanor Felony No
    State Dominant Factor Test Applied Social Gambling Allowed Penalty for Simple Gambling Penalty for Aggravated Gambling Express Internet Prohibition
    Texas Yes Yes Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Utah Yes No Misdemeanor Felony No
    Vermont Questionable Fine Only Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Virginia Yes Yes Misdemeanor Felony No
    Washington Yes Yes Misdemeanor Felony Yes (9)
    West Virginia Yes No Misdemeanor Misdemeanor No
    Wisconsin Yes No Misdemeanor Felony Yes
    Wyoming Yes Yes Misdemeanor Felony No
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    Sorry, I think betting should be legal but it doesn't make it legal, I wish, you wish, but the facts are not always what we want, something to be learn when you hit puberty. I hope those misinformed here are all teenager, otherwise they are brainwashed ignorant adults.

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    By the way as you can see in the law getting credits is also illegal.

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    I'm not a lawyer, but due to my line of work I can not do anything illegal. I consulted a lawyer in this regard and whatever I posted here was taken from a lawyer, then re-checked online. I dont even trust lawyers as some of them are misinformed as you have seen in this thread.

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    Practicing Law without a License

    Probettor is likely practicing law without a license. Be careful dude.

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    Probettor, you need to read the full text of that gambling law you posted. You left out the definitions, including "Gambling information". The statute certainly makes it illegal to be a bookmaker, but there is no federal law against a normal person placing bets on the internet.

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    dice you are so retarded. saying that raping, stealing or killing is illegal make me a lawyer. How? you are plain flat retarded.

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    Justin7 you are even more stupid than dice. did you see the chart I posted explaining that placing bets is a mesdemeanor in most states, a petty at a few and running a sportsbooking is a felony. Yes, simple gambling means placing bets idiot.

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    i posted the link so people could read it.

    not sure how you can read your copy/paste

    anyway, what it says is:

    "Express internet prohibition":

    most states are labeled no.


    if they wanted to, im sure most sure most states could create some problems
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    That is true, hard to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by probettor1 View Post
    If any one here can copy and paste an article of the law stating that betting is legal outside las Vegas Nevada will be awarded with 100 dollar check. You just have to send me your address. I did copy and paste the article stating it is illegal.
    Advise to all of you: talk just a little about what you know and nothing about what you dont know.
    You have been brainwashed. Is time to open your eyes and look always for the truth.
    The state summary you provided gives many states where it is legal to bet, as long as skill predominates over luck. If your chart for Alabama is accurate, it is legal to bet on sports, as long as you are smart.

    Send the $100 check to doctors without borders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hareeba! View Post
    This subject has been covered ad nauseam in this forum yet there is always someone coming up and posting misinformation on it.
    Correct.
    Along with many other subjects.
    The winners for me for the most "pull my hair out" misinformation posts are easily (in no particular order):

    1) Financial/IRS matters, esp. relating to the 10k USD figure. (Including "Do I have to pay taxes on...?").

    2) Do the sportsbooks take out taxes?, etc.

    3) Which sportsbooks (usually asked about LV, but also offshore) will take my bets of (5k/game) (10k/game), etc.
    (I'd be surprised if this type of post has ever resulted in the poster placing one bet even close to the amounts they ask about).


    If there were Stickys for these 3 subjects, a lot of bandwidth would be freed up.
    Although most of those posters wouldn't bother to read the Stickys anyway.
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    Justin7 - "It depends on the state. By the way, did you know the unlicensed practice of law is illegal? To my knowledge, every state has laws against the unlicensed practice of law. Now, would any states define making a bullshit argument about the law as a practice of law? I don't know. But make sure you know the law before you summarize it."

    Good response.

    Although if bullshit arguments about the law were prosecuted, the population would be thinned a great deal on the gambling forums.
    But the jailhouse card games would become awfully juicy.

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    ll

    It isnt please thank you please

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    Quote Originally Posted by probettor1 View Post
    If any one here can copy and paste an article of the law stating that betting is legal outside las Vegas Nevada will be awarded with 100 dollar check. You just have to send me your address. I did copy and paste the article stating it is illegal.
    Advise to all of you: talk just a little about what you know and nothing about what you dont know.
    You have been brainwashed. Is time to open your eyes and look always for the truth.
    good grief!

    that's now how law generally works

    laws generally spell out you can't do .. not what you can do

    show me a law in any state which says it's legal to make love to your wife

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    I receive an infraction for insulting someone: Justin7. kindred was the one starting with the insults. I hope he get an infraction too(just kidding). Any way, you are right, I myself learn something here today, in some states it is just a petty. I hate the fact that it is illegal in the other states. Just want to apologies to Justin7. I love you guys. Not gay love, just love as we all love betting and freedom. Have a great night and a successfull betting carreer all of you.

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    Ironically enough, the penalties for practicing law without a license are greater than illegal gambling.

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    Unauthorized practice of law definition:Co
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    Quote Originally Posted by probettor1 View Post
    Unauthorized practice of law definition:Conversely, the definition of "unauthorized practice of law" is variable, and is often conclusory and tautological,[2] i.e., it is the doing of a lawyer's or counselor's work by a non-lawyer for money
    Probettor1,

    I promise you this definition is wrong in Indiana. There are situations where you can practice law without receiving money.
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