[jeffdane]

their lines come out just fine. they have over night on college basketball. they say they dont but they do. as soon as the last game on the board for the night tips off they post the next days college bball lines. and plus you cant forget about the free half point. that is really an awesome gift. i dont know how anyone could complain about this book.

i havent been with them for baseball season yet. praying they have dime lines. if they do theres no reason to play anywhere else at all

i think i remember that they do have dimelines for baseball. gets worse as the line gets higher but still ok. i think this it what i remember.

freeplay in baseball=no moneylines (if i remember right) so get your bonus now if you are planning on playing there for baseball. freeplay on runlines and totals are not very profitable

[Sam Odom]

i think i remember that they do have dimelines for baseball.

Not a surety for this year... the reps & agents are waiting on word from high

just chat with them today and ask...

[TR88]

I can bet $250 max ?

[Sam Odom]

I was limited to 250 on overnight tennis - I thought maybe it was just an over-night thing

[Betislands]

Hi guys,

Hope all is well.

After reading some of the feedback I would like to clarify a few thing it is no secret my focus is a dimeline in baseball , free half points on NFL , NCAAF , NBA and NCAAB or 107 juice on all major sports.

Yes our racebook is not the best but my efforts were focused on creating a book that had solid payouts , good offerings and the best CS.

I apologize also if our tennis or soccer odds are not like other books , for that I try and offer things other shops do not.

Becoming a better book is always in the agenda and I do appreciate the feedback and I am positive that this year our offerings will only get better.

Good luck and enjoy our superbowl promo!

Jon

[Sam Odom]

Good luck and enjoy our superbowl promo!

Jon

Thanks...!!

I look forward to Baseball with you guys

[lemart5]

Another place you guys lack is Team Totals and Alternate lines for hockey spreads and other sports it needs to be fixed.

[Al Masters]

Hi guys,

Hope all is well.

After reading some of the feedback I would like to clarify a few thing it is no secret my focus is a dimeline in baseball , free half points on NFL , NCAAF , NBA and NCAAB or 107 juice on all major sports.

Yes our racebook is not the best but my efforts were focused on creating a book that had solid payouts , good offerings and the best CS.

I apologize also if our tennis or soccer odds are not like other books , for that I try and offer things other shops do not.

Becoming a better book is always in the agenda and I do appreciate the feedback and I am positive that this year our offerings will only get better.

Good luck and enjoy our superbowl promo!

Jon

Jon,just cause you mentioned you appreciate the feedback.

I was looking through the site,put my curser over the words betislands and saw instead of it saying betislands it said ABCislands??

Seems to be the same site?

Yet a completely different rating??

[Betislands]

Hi Al,

Thanks for the feedback can you please provide me a link since I am not able to find this.

Also after I left Wagerchief when we ( my partners ) took over Betislands the rating was applied as you can see our track record in this business speaks for itself with our main concern being client satisfaction. Not only with BI but in the past.

We outsource our wagering department to Jazz , Abcislands etc since it is not my interest to hire countless employees only to have to minimize staff as the gambling seasons go up and down in volume , this is not an uncommon practice and way for a bookmaker to minimize costs that is why the Price Per head business has boomed over the years.

Our processing , banking , staff , promotions , rules and ownership are independent this SBR has confirmed.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Have a good one guys,

Jon

[taxer]

Solid fukin book never heard a bad thing about it just people asking for perfection .. which is impossible in this business

[Al Masters]

Hi Al,

Thanks for the feedback can you please provide me a link since I am not able to find this.

Here's the link

look directly under the same day payout sign,you will see it says "line changed" and right under that it says BETISLANDS, put your curser over that and it says ABCislands.

For obvious reasons this was a concern of mine.



http://www.betislands.com/sportsbook/

[pimike]

Here's the link

look directly under the same day payout sign,you will see it says "line changed" and right under that it says BETISLANDS, put your curser over that and it says ABCislands.

For obvious reasons this was a concern of mine.



http://www.betislands.com/sportsbook/

WOW IT SURE DOES!

[Al Masters]

WOW IT SURE DOES!

Yes it sure does,kinda scary and no comeback from betislands.

I see bright red flags and it ain't the Canadian flag.

[secretstash]

Yes it sure does,kinda scary and no comeback from betislands. I see bright red flags and it ain't the Canadian flag.

honestly al , he did already respond.

its public knowledge already that they are using jazz/abc as their host for the lines and for hosting their servers..etc.. but they have their own money/customer service/bonus plans..etc... bill dozer I believe did an on site confirmation of all this, and their money situation is extremely liquid. Beyond that they have openly said this many times and the website was probably given to them by jazz companies and that type of coding error could very easily have taken place when they went to change all the wording from abcislands over to betislands.



-stash

[Al Masters]

honestly al , he did already respond.

its public knowledge already that they are using jazz/abc as their host for the lines and for hosting their servers..etc.. but they have their own money/customer service/bonus plans..etc... bill dozer I believe did an on site confirmation of all this, and their money situation is extremely liquid. Beyond that they have openly said this many times and the website was probably given to them by jazz companies and that type of coding error could very easily have taken place when they went to change all the wording from abcislands over to betislands.



-stash

Stash, i was not aware of this at all and was not sure what to make of the "we outsource to jazz" comment provided by betislands.

If it's public knowledge and this issue has been discussed before By Dozer then all is good.

You gave me the answer i was looking for not sure why a mod or dozer or betislands couldn't have said what you just did.

For the record,i joined and play there so believe me i hope and want only good things from this shop and the 2 guys i have spoken with have been cool with me(Ben&Nick),just a little scary to have seen that abcislands when i was not aware that the issue had been dealt with.

Also helps to hear it from a player.

[jjgold]

Most of these books are under a few bigger umbrellas no matter how you spin it
Jazz controls many books

[Dark Horse]

After reading some of the feedback I would like to clarify a few thing it is no secret my focus is a dimeline in baseball , free half points on NFL , NCAAF , NBA and NCAAB or 107 juice on all major sports.

Since this is a freeplay thread, is that 107 juice good to go with the fp? Or is juice set to 110 for players accepting the fp?

[pimike]

Since this is a freeplay thread, is that 107 juice good to go with the fp? Or is juice set to 110 for players accepting the fp?

I was told the 100% free play DOES NOT include reduced juice BUT does include half points on hoops M-F.

[pimike]

A year ago I got lucky on a parlay on my initial deposit with a 100% bonus and I fulfilled the playthrough and got a payout.When they contacted me again a couple months later with some other offers they said that even if I made a deposit without taking another bonus they offered I would have makeup to achive for a cashout.It made no sense at all?Way too complicated!

This needs more clarification. What does a separate deposit have to do with a make up?

[benandjerry]

cant see anything about it on their site, but do they accept deposits/withdrawals via moneybookers?

[Joe Dogs]

I was told the 100% free play DOES NOT include reduced juice BUT does include half points on hoops M-F.

107 juice sounds interesting.

I believe bases ,will have 10 cent lines up to -190,not to shabby.

Sounds good,gonna take a shot.

[pimike]

107 juice sounds interesting.

I believe bases ,will have 10 cent lines up to -190,not to shabby.

Sounds good,gonna take a shot.

I'm funding tomorrow!

Talk to u later.

[iceminers26]

I love BI but I called tonight at 10 ET to get a receiver name emailied to me so I could send it out first thing in AM and nothing has been sent 2 hours later... worse than that, Ben sounded like his puppy just died.... did BI get hit hard on SB? Hope not, love Jon and his operation... been nothing but top notch to all of us.

[secretstash]

I love BI but I called tonight at 10 ET to get a receiver name emailied to me so I could send it out first thing in AM and nothing has been sent 2 hours later... worse than that, Ben sounded like his puppy just died.... did BI get hit hard on SB? Hope not, love Jon and his operation... been nothing but top notch to all of us.

its highly doubtful they got hit hard.. most books made a killing in the 2nd half and of course on props they took in tons of juice.

my guess is they actually made 5-10% yesterday.

-stash

[QuangX]

Hey was the 10 percent back on superbowl loss still effictive? or playoff promtion

[iceminers26]

its highly doubtful they got hit hard.. most books made a killing in the 2nd half and of course on props they took in tons of juice. my guess is they actually made 5-10% yesterday. -stash

i hope not, they have been nothing but top notch to all us, Jon runs a great book.

On a side not been 6 hours since I asked for a name to make a deposit and also haven't heard back on SB 10% refund, not knocking because IMO this book has been the best in the industry this past year, just hope they can continue and people give them a shot.