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Old 02-21-09, 02:48 PM   #1
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+13 seems like a lot for a team that slows it down alot...

I like Wash St. first half alot here

anyone on Ucla?
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Old 02-21-09, 02:51 PM   #2
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Archie,
UCLA avg. almost 20 ppg more offence but do allow 8 ppg more on the D side. But with that being said, UCLA can explode and easily have the 13 covered by half if not more. I wouldnt touch this game
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Old 02-21-09, 02:52 PM   #3
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they CAN explode.... but not many do against a Defense this good.....

so I think that would be more unlikely
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Old 02-21-09, 02:55 PM   #4
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I'm liking that as well Chi.
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Old 02-21-09, 02:57 PM   #5
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Archie, its not like Wast St defence is that great. 8 ppg avg difference is not much bro, if it was 18 I could see your case. A team 13-13 walking into UCLA as blow out written all over
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Scratch that, not playing it.
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Wash St. might have lost by more then 10... a handful of times this year...they keep it close

they might not have been beaten by 14 this year except 1 or 2 times
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Wash St. doesn't play good defense IWIN? have you watched them this year? be honest?

how did Ucla do last time against them?
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Can Wash st score is the question, they may limit UCLA possessions but they struggle on offense.
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Old 02-21-09, 03:04 PM   #10
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Chi, I have watched Wash St play once this year and have seen UCLA play 2-3 times. Wash St lost by 2 at home to UCLA, ok. LIke Tully said, defence is all fun and stuff, but you have to score also. UCLA will win by double digits guarenteed, but to me this game is a no play
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I've watched Wash st. alot, and I like their game, I like their coaching, and I like them in this game....

I'm a big Ben Howland fan too... but its hard not to like wash st +13.... they rarely allow opponents to get that far from them.... its not that teams might not be that much better...

but the way they play, you only have the amount of possessions of a 25 or 30 min game... so +13 is more like +17 or +18 translated into possessions

last game, UCLA shot lights out from three point land to win.... they weren't able to drive to the hoop or score down low very well

I'll take my chances with Ucla NOT shooting 60% from 3 point land again
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I'm on UCLA. Making a play on every game today, but I agree that 13 does seem like a little too many
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First half was a solid play.
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Old 02-21-09, 03:31 PM   #14
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First half was a solid play.

scoring hasn't been a prob for wsu today... but their defense isn't what I expected...

still got to hold off UCLA from having a run still, lot of time left..


Ucla 2nd half might be an option here
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WSU is definitely racking up some fouls too. I don't see them hanging for long in the second half.
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I just need them to hang on for 2 mins... and then decide if I like the halftime line to get a nice middle

ucla's free throws are keeping them in the game
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ucla -8...

might take under 69, now way they keep shooting this good
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I think UCLA will absolutely kill them in the 2half. Could get ugly
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still a good game thus far....
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Ucla struggle to score
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Old 02-21-09, 04:32 PM   #21
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There's that defense that IWIN couldn't see
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UCLA is a joke if they can't beat Wash St at home
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Ooops. I was dead wrong on this one. My bad.
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down by 7 with 350 to go

UCLA going to lose
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Good call Archie! LIke I said it was a no play for me, but you were correct sir
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Old 02-21-09, 04:42 PM   #26
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how do you miss that
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Old 02-21-09, 04:54 PM   #27
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dang, shoulda taken the ML too... I actually thought about it, after seeing WSU only lost by 2 last time

oh well, maybe my balls will be big enough another time
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These last 3 minutes have been great to watch
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what was the ML for WSU ? anybody got an idea ............
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I had UCLA -13 and I thought they would actually pull it off early in the 2nd half when they got up 5.. but then the WSU coach called a timeout and they started their winning run.

AMAZING game had me on the edge for the last 10 minutes, talk about some crazy scrambles and clutch FT shooting.
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UCLA, seems to play more up tempo, Howland said his players wanted to play this style, but I dont think they are better with the change in style. UCLA the last few years has always been about defense.
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this style, is very different from howland's traditional style
Howland built Pitt, to who they are today
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WSU ML closed at +800 at 5Dimes
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this style, is very different from howland's traditional style
Howland built Pitt, to who they are today
Howland seems to have had success with that style, 3 straight final fours, I wonder if he changed for recruiting purposes?
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wow massive doggie hit here ............ unreal
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