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Old 02-20-09, 11:57 PM   #1
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Default Why do books refuse to offer half moneylines?

I'm talking about first half and second half moneylines. Bookmaker and many other books don't have this option.

Why? What's the reasoning?
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Old 02-21-09, 12:07 AM   #2
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cuz their a joke. greek and 5dimes give u that and it should be mandatory on every book.

ones that dont are skirred
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Old 02-21-09, 12:09 AM   #3
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Fearless,

Open an account at The Greek and tell them Shorty sent you.
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Old 02-21-09, 12:12 AM   #4
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Fearless,

Open an account at The Greek and tell them Shorty sent you.


The only problem is that I can't money to many books.
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Old 02-21-09, 12:13 AM   #5
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What do you mean? greek takes visa/mc all access netspend reloadable cards. works fine. also you can use moneygram/western union.
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Old 02-21-09, 12:19 AM   #6
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What do you mean? greek takes visa/mc all access netspend reloadable cards. works fine. also you can use moneygram/western union.
I'll take a look at it. Thanks.
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Old 02-21-09, 01:41 AM   #7
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still waiting for your third pick.
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Old 02-21-09, 01:46 AM   #8
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Used to play bookmaker great but the greek.....
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Old 02-21-09, 04:42 AM   #9
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still waiting for your third pick.
It'll be a barn burner before it's over.
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Old 02-21-09, 07:48 AM   #10
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They're not popular because... they're not popular. The vast majority of guys almost never bet them, so the books don't want to risk making a mathematical error just to have the lines look pretty. So yes, in a way they're scared, but in another they're just being prudent and letting the big boys handle the MLs.
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They're not popular because... they're not popular. The vast majority of guys almost never bet them, so the books don't want to risk making a mathematical error just to have the lines look pretty. So yes, in a way they're scared, but in another they're just being prudent and letting the big boys handle the MLs.
I don't buy that explanation. Everybody knows that a one point favorite is -120, a two point favorite is -140, a three point favorite is -150, the books could write a program for that math.

Plus, some of the big boys do put up these moneylines (pinnacle, greek) and others do not (bookmaker/cris). Your explanation makes sense but I think it's something else.
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Old 02-21-09, 09:36 AM   #12
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I don't buy that explanation. Everybody knows that a one point favorite is -120, a two point favorite is -140, a three point favorite is -150, the books could write a program for that math.
what
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what
I don't get it either.
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I don't buy that explanation. Everybody knows that a one point favorite is -120, a two point favorite is -140, a three point favorite is -150, the books could write a program for that math.
There is no *direct* correlation between MLs and pointspreads (in other words, in a mature market, a given PS will not always have the same price on the ML), at least not at the bigger books. It is my understanding that bookies like CRIS and Greek throw something on the wall and hope it sticks, but money will shape both markets separately as it comes in.

That said, smaller books may move lines manually (or on air, by copying CRIS/Greek/Pinny.)

In that sense, I believe that Arilou's explanation is right - smaller, moving-on-air books don't wanna be bothered managing yet another market and potentially get killed on one side 'cause they were asleep at the switch.
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