[ttmopp]

You probably won't have problems with them if you bet small, but beware all higher stake bettors (500+). 10Bet advertise big limits and even being "better than Pinnacle" and stuff, but all that is total BS.

Seems like they might void any big bet that would leave them in an uncomfortable position. They just say it was an error line. Even if the line was within the current market, and you take it before a movement. An hour later you might find it voided. My recent bets:

Today: Dnipro+1 1.98 (market was 1.95-1.95 before some action on Dnipro) I jump in at this point, the market moves to ~2.08-1.85 -- 1.5hour later VOIDED due to a "mistaken line".

Last week: France ML 1.556 (market was around 1.50-1.52) I make a large bet. Voided due to a mistaken line.

I've been betting online since 2000 and never seen as loose voids as these.

[Mudcat]

Welcome to SBR forum ttmopp. Thanks for posting.

[Bill Dozer]

Thanks ttmopp.

Can you paste the actual wagers here or in an email to me so we can look at this with Mgt?

[ttmopp]

Sure, here are the tickets:


Bet ID: 2050621
Bet Type: Single bet
Purchase Date: 15/07/2006 10:40:21
Purchased via: Internet
Branch: Soccer
League: Intertoto Cup
Event Date: 15/07/2006 19:45:00
Event: Marseille vs Dnipro - Full Game
Line Type: Spread
Your Bet: Dnipro
Points: 1
Odds: 1.98
Stake: $ 700.00
Win: $ 1386.27
Status: Canceled
Score:


Bet ID: 2013640
Bet Type: Single bet
Purchase Date: 04/07/2006 15:51:27
Purchased via: Internet
Branch: Soccer
League: World Cup 2006 - Matches
Event Date: 05/07/2006 20:00:00
Event: France vs Portugal - Full Game
Line Type: Spread
Your Bet: France
Points: 0
Odds: 1.556
Stake: $ 2500.00
Win: $ 3888.89
Status: Canceled
Score:

[Lucas]

I do not think they deserve C+. It is obviously their policy: voiding bets when the movement goes against them. For example why Expekt (another european bookie with wide offer of sports) has C-?

I wanted to reg there (because I saw good rating) but I am passing it. They are not trustworthy.

[JoshW]

Thank you for the post TTmopp. This kind of behaviour is no good, especially is positioning themselves as taking on all comers.

[Jenx]

They (10 bet) have been known to void after the event. Not a good book, they dont even email you when they void. They will void anything that gives them a liability they are not happy with, Stay away.
Jenx.

[Chuck Sims]

Thanks for the warning. I won't go near the place. Voiding bets when the line moves against them. What would they say if you e-mail them to void a bet that moved against you?

[isetcap]

Originally Posted by ttmopp

You probably won't have problems with them if you bet small, but beware all higher stake bettors (500+). 10Bet advertise big limits and even being "better than Pinnacle" and stuff, but all that is total BS.

Seems like they might void any big bet that would leave them in an uncomfortable position. They just say it was an error line. Even if the line was within the current market, and you take it before a movement. An hour later you might find it voided. My recent bets:

Today: Dnipro+1 1.98 (market was 1.95-1.95 before some action on Dnipro) I jump in at this point, the market moves to ~2.08-1.85 -- 1.5hour later VOIDED due to a "mistaken line".

Last week: France ML 1.556 (market was around 1.50-1.52) I make a large bet. Voided due to a mistaken line.

I've been betting online since 2000 and never seen as loose voids as these.

Excellent information, tt. Thanks for passing it along. I can't contemplate why 10Bet would think they could get away with decisions such as these.

[onlòóker]

Here is a conversion of ttmopp's post above, with the american conversion in brackets [....]

Originally Posted by ttmopp

Today: Dnipro+1 1.98[-102] (market was 1.95-1.95[-105/-105] before some action on Dnipro) I jump in at this point, the market moves to ~2.08-1.85[+108/-118] -- 1.5hour later VOIDED due to a "mistaken line".

Last week: France ML 1.556[-180] (market was around 1.50-1.52[-200/-192]) I make a large bet. Voided due to a mistaken line.

I think I converted those right. Just trying to help out our American friends, because I know those decimals can confuse me.

[isetcap]

Originally Posted by onlòóker

Here is a conversion of ttmopp's post above, with the american conversion in brackets [....]



I think I converted those right. Just trying to help out our American friends, because I know those decimals can confuse me.

I think you got the conversions wrong Onlooker. Here is the more accurate version...

Today: Dnipro+1 1.98[screw player]
Last week: France ML 1.556[screw player]

[Bill Dozer]

ttmop,

Management is looking into this with the bet IDs. We should have a direct response for tomorrow. Thanks for sharing.

Can you supply me with the details of the France wager?

[ttmopp]

Originally Posted by Bill Dozer

Can you supply me with the details of the France wager?

What kind of details do you mean? Bet ID? I already posted the tickets of both of my wagers above..

Great that they are actually looking into this. They didn't bother to answer me when I inquired about these voidings. Thanks.

[Bill Dozer]

Ok, I'm with it now... thanks. Stand by.

[ttmopp]

Originally Posted by onlòóker

I think I converted those right. Just trying to help out our American friends, because I know those decimals can confuse me.

You got them right thanks

Originally Posted by ttmopp

Last week: France ML 1.556 (market was around 1.50-1.52 [-200/-192]) I make a large bet. Voided due to a mistaken line.

Of course I meant that the next top odds were -192, lots of books had them -200.

[ttmopp]

WOW They just credited my account with $700 as a sign of good will!!! Thats amazing!!

[Bill Dozer]

ttmop,

You should see an additional $700 in your account. 10bet gave you a win for the Dnipro bet. Mgt. agreed that canceling this bet, and doing it an hour later, was a mistake.

In regards to the France wager, 10bet tells me they cancelled it a few minutes after and communicated to you that they hung a series price instead of the game line.