[shantystar]

whats up!.sbrforum staff,after 2 eweeks you are tongue tight.

[jayc88]

i guess they get lots of complains every day, they just didn't have enough time yet.

[Mudcat]

I have made myself the unofficial tracker of all things Bet Atlas. There have been big problems through the entire year 2008.

They are still rated B- here. IMO SBR has simply dropped the ball on that one.

Atlas has proven itself to be one of these books that is ready/eager to take deposits but is just not ready/willing for payouts.

But hopefully SBR can help you. I would be interested to know any details you may like to provide. The good news is, I haven't heard of Atlas STIFFing anyone; they are just incredibly slow/inefficient/weaselly.


Bet Atlas - avoid

[Justin7]

Mudcat,

Care to post a quick summary of why you would downgrade them?

[ChuteBoxe]

BetAtlas...About to get downgraded...

[Bread]

Mudcat...What would you do if you were a mod here?

[ChuteBoxe]

I believe he used to be, Bread.

[Bread]

He was Chute? I never knew that. He should definitely make it a point of stating that he used to be a mod here in more of his posts.

[bigboydan]

whats up!.sbrforum staff,after 2 eweeks you are tongue tight.

Hi sir,

What was your complaint against BetAtlas about?

[Mudcat]

Yes Bread, I see you there and have seen you there before. You got me good.

Mudcat,

Care to post a quick summary of why you would downgrade them?

You have created a paradox. The reason I feel they should be downgraded is because of the sheer volume of problems spread over such a long time. Thus a "quick summary" is tough. But I'll give it my best shot.

Atlas has been very slow and inefficient at payouts going back to the start of 2008 and apparently now continuing into the new year. 8-12 weeks has been normal.

It's not just the slow-paying; it's the screwing around. One example: dude's payout took 12+ weeks. He estimated he spent 50+ hours on the phone/on hold/chasing Atlas people. Among the screw-arounds, he was sent for ** pick ups and when he got there, there was no money for him - TWICE. (And for good measure they over-charged him on their published fees for "discretionary" reasons).

That's just one of about a dozen cases I'm aware of spread pretty evenly over 2008. There was a formal complaint on that one - based on forum discussion, there have been others - so it is not just a case of SBR having to take the word of anonymous posters making claims. SBR should know what is going on.

SBR defines B- as: Good, minimal risk to players funds. Top 10% of all books.

Atlas may have fit that description once upon a time but it has been a long time.

[Bread]

Yes Bread, I see you there and have seen you there before. You got me good.

All I wanted was for you to say you saw me. Now I can move on.

[Scorpion]

He estimated he spent 50+ hours on the phone/on hold/chasing Atlas people. .

I guess Atlas likes large phone bills, why pay $2 when you can pay $30

[applepicks]

Hi sir,

What was your complaint against BetAtlas about?

Dan it has to do with a large total ran up from a free play won in a contest. To be able to withdraw you have to deposit a said amount. This shantystar is in Pakistan, on Creditwagering stiff list and wants help. He uses a internet cafe in his town to post. Not sure that Atlas will give him what he wants, unless he deposits and this book is in trouble and I wouldn't deposit my worst enemies money into any horizon book.

[bigboydan]

Ah, It had something to do with a contest another forum was running.

[Bill Dozer]

whats up!.sbrforum staff,after 2 eweeks you are tongue tight.

Hi Shanty,

I replied to your New year's eve email advising you to contact the forum where the promotion was offered through. When third party sites are involved the terms can be hard to nail down without documentation. The website should be able to show what the deal was and we can go from there.

Let me know through the forum or call again if you think there may be a problem with email.

[HedgeHog]

whats up!.sbrforum staff,after 2 eweeks you are tongue tight.

SBR is too busy running a gay website. They don't care about Sports Betting anymore.

[THEGREAT30]

This is SBP Shanty and AppleAss how do you know he is on the stiffpage? I here the bullshit is ran out of Florida maybe I just answered my own question.

[shantystar]

applepick goes mad after his forum wrecked!.they forfortify my 100$ winnings!imagine his attitude!worthless person!.

[applepicks]

Ah, It had something to do with a contest another forum was running.

Yes you are correct here Dan.

Hi Shanty,

I replied to your New year's eve email advising you to contact the forum where the promotion was offered through. When third party sites are involved the terms can be hard to nail down without documentation. The website should be able to show what the deal was and we can go from there.

Let me know through the forum or call again if you think there may be a problem with email.

You'd be surprised what he'll send you when your trying to help. It is amazing.

This is SBP Shanty and AppleAss how do you know he is on the stiffpage? I here the bullshit is ran out of Florida maybe I just answered my own question.

I helped him when I owned a forum and I know his name to be ***** **** and lives in Pakistan. I've gone to bat for this guy in the past that's why it is important to know the facts with this guy.

applepick goes mad after his forum wrecked!.they forfortify my 100$ winnings!imagine his attitude!worthless person!.

Sold it over a year ago to a Dutch gentleman and I couldn't be happier. So while your scamming ass can't understand any of this english. Good luck. I hope you village is in the next drone attack by the US goverment. Dumbass. Bow to allah and see how that ****er gets you your money.

[shantystar]

sbr even always not able to take satisfactory action!.and if someone complaint they block his/her IP.immediately effet!.

[Peep]

Shanty.

SBR is not paid by YOU.

They are paid by SPORTSBOOKS.

The fact that they run an open forum and do quite often help players in disputes is a bonus.

[THEGREAT30]

Shanty.

SBR is not paid by YOU.

They are paid by SPORTSBOOKS.

The fact that they run an open forum and do quite often help players in disputes is a bonus.

If that is true then they are SBP and they are just as illegal as a online sportsbook operating in the U.S. because they have ties to Texas rather they want to admit it today or not.

[Peep]

Since when has allowing information to be posted been illegal in the USA?

[THEGREAT30]

They do more than just allow information to be posted they promote these books. They are just as responsible for what goes on as the pimps are for their hoes.

[The General]

A couple thoughts. I think many many players have been assisted by SBR that would not have seen anything without SBR. I have always said even in competition that gamblers are better off with SBR than without. Also, it takes revenue to stay afloat even from some books disliked by members. Without revenue, then the site is not here to help anyone. I have had/seen legit complaints on about every book around personally. It is great that posters can share these feelings openly on the forum so that others can stay informed and make their own choices. Most of us have learned the hard way getting thru life. Getting thru the world of on line gambling is a similar experience.

Good luck

[bigboydan]

sbr even always not able to take satisfactory action!.and if someone complaint they block his/her IP.immediately effet!.

Like it was mentioned above sir. Please take up your contest winnings dispute with the site where you won it at.