[rm18]

Four things:

You let me start out 2-0, I have posted the last two college games and got them correct.(In jjgold's threads)

One game a day every day, whether there is one game or hundreds(includes basketball)

-110 or less, I can buy a half point at pinnacle if it stays at -110 or less

I will only ask for +150 odds if you spot me the two games that I picked with Miami and CSU, not looking to bet more than 1k though if that is ok, I don't want to take too much out of my bankroll.

[Terris]

jesus...now things are really getting silly. Dont feed the troll man...

[raiders72001]

How many games total are you going to play?

[rm18]

100 games 100 days

[raiders72001]

What about this. I spot you 0 games and give you the 2-1 odds. You can play any Pinny line with or without buy up to -108 since it would be +100 the other way? Also what are we betting?

[Razz]

rm18 - Taking 2-1 to win 57% is a better value than taking 3-2 to win 56.12%.

Don't take it for more than you're comfortable with. Good luck.

[Terris]

you guys are the reason why every mother would warn her son from ever touching gambling or a sportsbook...the next thing i see here is: you believe raiders, thinking he knows a lot, and pay him for lines...wouldnt surprise me.
Get a life...i know i wont waste my time anymore with this, is it possible to delete my forum "account"? ...

[rm18]

ok, -108 in NFL as long as it is -110 on college and basketball, I probably won't play much NFL anyway, 2-1 is not better value I'm pretty sure, but I will take 2/1 I guess.

And pushes don't count as 50% for the percentage.

[raiders72001]

Sure- Sounds good to me. Are we putting up any $ on this? Let's make it small if we are. I only like to make it big from braggers such as Terris, Senator etc.I don't mind taking whatever they can afford.

[rm18]

500/1000 ok? I don't know how to set it up, or where, I have a matchbook account but have never actually used it. I would be fine with giving it to Dozer or a moderator, especially since it is not that much money.

[raiders72001]

Dozer works for me but can we make it more than a play a day so that it doesn't take so long.

[BuddyBear]

Terris calm down man...you've been a good poster. I mean this is an internet forum...there are going to be quite a few people you don't get along with that doesn't mean you delete your account.

I mean, I am sure you won't find anywhere else to post...this is relatively calm compared to other places...trust me.

[raiders72001]

I have to run but I'll check back later. I'm in Vegas and it's time to check out the night life.

[raiders72001]

Terris has thin skin. You can't be a gambler if you are that sensitive.

[BuddyBear]

I mean i don't agree with everything JJ or Raiders says but I listen to what they have to say...b/c they make good points from time to time.

Trust me, one of the most valuable things I learned is that you need to listen to people regardless of what they say. You'll be much happier if you do and you'll be treated with quite a bit of respect from others if you choose to listen as oppose to preach all day.

[rm18]

Ok I guess I can speed it up a little, it probably is more compelling to make one pick for the guy picking.

I don't want to pick too many though or I don't like my chances to hit 57% anymore, I guess I can give you 1 a day during the week and 8-10 on the weekend, but that will still take 7-8 weeks.

[Bill Dozer]

It looks like its time for some capping contests against each other. Always a good trash talking time!

RM,
Do you like to bet games the night before? I like your chances if you do.

[rm18]

Actually I guess 5-6 weeks, I can pick it up when basketball starts

[rm18]

Bill, I guess I make a decent amount of my bets a day or more in advance, I do well enough to not have to wait for games to finish to make my next bets if thats what you're getting at.

[Bill Dozer]

I was thinking about the selection at -110 or less at Pinnacle.

[Ganchrow]

A couple of points which should be self-evident to all those involved (or at least to all those involved with Microsoft Excel):

1. If an individual is able to consistently pick roughly 54.34% winners then the bet proffered by Raiders is a "fair" bet (i.e., the expected profit or loss for each of the participants is zero).
2. It follows directly from the above in the case of dime spreads that if one were to pick only those games where the favorite were offered at -125 or greater in absolute value (implying a 54.43% or higher chance of victory in the case of dime spreads), then taking Raider’s bet would have positive expected value.

[raiders72001]

Good points ganchgrow.

RM- When you want to start?

Dozer- You holdong the $?

[raiders72001]

rm- I just wanted to clarify. We are using Pinnacle's lines and we are throwing out pushes. Is this correct?

[jjgold]

Raiders you will win bet. I mean I hope the guy does well but my stats say no.

[rm18]

Raiders, I'm really not trying to back out or anything but I was thinking I could get the bets anywhere from the http://www.sbrodds.com/ ticker, with the exception of matchbook, they have weird lines sometimes, since when people claim their percentages it is from their bets, and you call them out that they are lying. I don't like me chances as much if I have to bet a fixed line at pinnacle.

Yes I want pushes thrown out, so if there are 4 pushes, I will pick 104 games.

[rm18]

For the starting time I have to get a neteller withdrawal processed first(Bodog), hopefully it is processed in the next couple hours but it is big, I just finished my 36,000 rollover.

And Dozer is still fine with me, even if he works for you.

[rm18]

ok I got the money now as long as we can agree on the terms

[raiders72001]

This is how I understand it. 100 plays throwing out pushes. Use the line at Pinny at the time of the bet. At 8 cent line no higher than -108. At a 10 cent line no higher than -110. You have to win 57 games. 1 play per day except Sat and Sun where you will make 8 -10. Correct?

[raiders72001]

Dozer- Would you be willing to hold the money? Also can I transfer Pinny which is easier for me becasue I'm cheap and it's free or Neteller?

[tacomax]

Dozer works for me but can we make it more than a play a day so that it doesn't take so long.

OK.....So Bill Dozer works for you. And jjgold is the boss. Exactly what is the power hierachy at SBR?

[rm18]

I'm not sure if you read what I wrote a few posts up, but I want to be able to make the bets at any SBRlines book(not matchbook), like I would want to take Colorado at -3, but at pinnacle it is -3 -112, or do you think this in an unfair advantage. Like I said I will be posting my bets not picks from pinnacle, and am saying I can hit 57% on my bets not picks from a fixed line.

Everything else is correct, I guess I would like to start tomorrow if this is ok, I don't know how to give people money from pinnacle, but I can just use neteller.

[raiders72001]

Lines from books up top are fine. When Dozer takes our money we can start.

taco- you are a real idiot. I never said Dozer works for me. Don't misquote me again.

[tacomax]

taco- you are a real idiot. I never said Dozer works for me. Don't misquote me again.

Oh, I'm sorry.

But when you said "Dozer works for me" then I assumed that Dozer worked for you.

I'm sorry if I misinterpreted your post.

[raiders72001]

I meant that it's fine that Dozer holds the money. That this works for me.