[jjgold]

What am I missing??

They seem very similar, 12Bet maybe pays slightly faster, has American odds unlike 188Bet
Maybe lower juice at 188Bet on Asian Handicaps in Soccer?

[chachi]

12/dafabet generally better football(soccer) odds in my experience overall

[HeeeHAWWWW]

12bet (and dafa and a few others) take their odds from ibcbet, one of the two biggies in Asia.

The other biggie is sbobet.

188 is smaller.

All three are kinda similar, but 188 will boot you if you win a lot. SBO won't. IBC themself won't, but 12bet will.


They have the same soccer juice on the big leagues, about 1.75-2.00% on handicap, which is about -103.5 to -104 in US pricing. Totals are a bit worse than that, about -105.

On match day in the big 4 + euro leagues handicaps drop to -102.5 style pricing.


If you have accounts at all of them, plus pinnacle, matchbook and betfair, you can usually get -101 juice, or often no juice at all.

[chachi]

better summary than I put together there ...

Ive not had problems with 188 limiting me as of yet, 12's had me on 2x100 for awhile but I consider that fortunate

[jjgold]

good stuff men

I thought 12bet had the much smaller limts

[chachi]

12bet starts off ok, but as soon as you show you can spot value peaks, 2x250, then 2x100, then sometimes even more punitive as alluded to by some

[HeeeHAWWWW]

Yeah, I think there are quite a few books that copy ibc or sbo odds, but of course they don't have the same liquidity then, can't cope with the bigger sharp players.

[jjgold]

Yankee game tied 4-4

Betting menu says run line 0

Yanks -250
Balt +166

That seems like horrific juice unless I am reading it wrong

[thirtytwo]

Yankee game tied 4-4

Betting menu says run line 0

Yanks -250
Balt +166

That seems like horrific juice unless I am reading it wrong

Depends on when you got this line, after the yanks half of the inning, or after the o's half. -250 after baltimore didnt score in their half in a tie game in late innings looks OK...

[thirtytwo]

But O's should have been at least in +190 range in this situation so the juice does look bad...

[jjgold]

Yeh it seems that it is like that on all usa sports even handicap lines

Big gaps in spreads