[SBR_John]

If the Horns would schedule some tougher competition then they would be playing in the title game. The heck with the conference championship.

Yes I know they play in a tough division...so what.

Look they played 4 cream puffs and beat them 210-46. Arkansas is a good scheduled team who is reloading. No problem with that one. But to schedule UTEP, Rice and Florida Atlantic is gutless.

Everyone knows how the BCS works and the strength of schedule component. I'm not saying switch UTEP for USC but I am saying instead of scheduling Florida Atlantic play someone like NC St or Iowa St or Arizona.

The system was in place well before these cream puffs were scheduled. Playing those cream puffs cost this team a chance to play and win the national championship.

[CrazyLou]

Texas was hosed, plain and simple.

[InTheHole]

Yeah...got that right...so was Texas Tech

[MoneySportsGuy]

I know everybody is talking about how Texas got robbed, but I look to the top 2 teams the last 4 or so weeks and to me that is both Oklahoma and Florida. But that is just how I see it, and everybody has their own valid opinions and ideas.

[AK]

How did they get hosed? They beat oklahoma early in season however lost to texas tech who got destroyed by Oklahoma late in season. Oklahoma is playing like the number 1 team in the country right now and deserve to be there in bcs finals

[SBR_John]

Originally Posted by MoneySportsGuy

I know everybody is talking about how Texas got robbed, but I look to the top 2 teams the last 4 or so weeks and to me that is both Oklahoma and Florida. But that is just how I see it, and everybody has their own valid opinions and ideas.

Texas beat both teams plaing in their conf championship so I could buy that they got robbed there.

Still, the real prize is the BCS Chanpionship. They robbed themself by scheduling virgin sisters school of the blind type schools. Sad thing is they will continue to schedule those. The thirst for the easy win trumps the chance for a national championship.

[AMBlai01]

Rice actually didn't hurt them this year as they had a decent season, not to mention it is a in state rival. UTEP was scheduled a few years ago when that program was looking up as well. Just 2 years ago they won 10 games. You really can't fault that non-conference schedule as they scheduled 2 teams that are or were supposed to be decent.

[Kingctb27]

Teams are penalized for not having a powerful offense. If Alabama had lost to a sucky team and been 10-1 they would have no shot at the championship over a team like FLA who scores so many points. Fact is Texas beat OU and they should be in the game. Just because they don't score 60+ doesn't mean they are not the better team. Can't wait to see OU get Drilled by Florida in the national title game.

[RogueJuror]

How far ahead do they schedule this games in college football?

[l7ustin]

Texas plays better defense than Oklahoma. Plain and simple.

Tired of hearing how Oklahoma is better because they run scores up on teams. Texas backup quarterback played the 4th quarter they were "only" up by 30 last game of the season.

Not every team has a prick coach like Florida and Oklahoma who run scores up on schools

[AMBlai01]

Originally Posted by RogueJuror

How far ahead do they schedule this games in college football?

It varies greatly but anywhere from 5-10 years in advance...sometimes they slip in a game only a year in advance if you need to fill a date...

[hoopster42]

Originally Posted by SBR_John

If the Horns would schedule some tougher competition then they would be playing in the title game. The heck with the conference championship.

Yes I know they play in a tough division...so what.

Look they played 4 cream puffs and beat them 210-46. Arkansas is a good scheduled team who is reloading. No problem with that one. But to schedule UTEP, Rice and Florida Atlantic is gutless.

Everyone knows how the BCS works and the strength of schedule component. I'm not saying switch UTEP for USC but I am saying instead of scheduling Florida Atlantic play someone like NC St or Iowa St or Arizona.

The system was in place well before these cream puffs were scheduled. Playing those cream puffs cost this team a chance to play and win the national championship.

a fan of a team and a guy who actually gets why his team was overtaken. nice to see. yes, cfb bcs system rewards teams that schedule more difficult nonconf gms, no question abt this

[MoneySportsGuy]

Yeah sometimes colleges make agreements 3 years, somtimes 5, it varies.

[SBR_John]

Originally Posted by RogueJuror

How far ahead do they schedule this games in college football?

It varies. Can be up to 7 years out. All schedules are finalized at least two years out and most schools have complete schedules 3 to 4 years out. Thats what I remember.

AMBlai01 makes a great point on UTEP, well a good point. UTEP has had a whole lot more 1-10 seasons than 10-1's lately.

Rice has no biz on their schedule any more. How about TCU? They were an old rival from the Southwest Conference days. Oklahoma played them and that might be one reason they will win the national championship this year...if they win their last two.

[hoopster42]

2009 texas sched

la monroe, wyoming, cent fla, utep

get ready to be screwed out of the bcs champ gm next yr coz of this, texas doing it to itself, no one else to blame

[bigboydan]

The Big12 needs to revisit there tie breaker rules, because that sure didn't help this matter at all.

[l7ustin]

Any chance Florida could win against Bama by 1 and Texas could hold at 2 in the FINAL bcs standings? Lol...

[zentiense]

EVERY team up there in the top 10 has a "cream puff" schedule -- it's just how it is. Texas had an equally easy or difficult schedule as any other top team. Florida played The Citadel 2 weeks ago -- I'm sorry -- but who are they again? Oklahoma is "peaking" at the right moment, however, playing the most difficult portion of their schedule at the end of the season.

BCS didn't hose Texas because of schedule. They hosed Texas because they don't run up the score and because they beat Oklahoma "early" in the season. But the system failed brilliantly -- Texas lost on the LAST PLAY of the game AT Tech (with injuries all over the field) -- and BEAT OU convincingly on a neutral field. The system is broken, plain and simple. Why even play the first half of the season if it doesn't matter, anyway?

[Cabo]

No worries John, BBD has Mizzou beating Oklahoma, so that should put Texas in.

[rm18]

Originally Posted by l7ustin

Any chance Florida could win against Bama by 1 and Texas could hold at 2 in the FINAL bcs standings? Lol...

No, but a pretty decent chance Mizzou can win.

[fiveteamer]

Man, I can't see how Mizzou will stop Oklahoma.

Mizzou could probably cover, but at the end, Oklahoma will just score more points.

[JoshW]

John-

I think that is a very fair way to look at things. With the quality of the teams in the south, Texas needs to schedule tougher early season games. Maybe this will finally happen after this year.

[Willie Bee]

I've said it many times before, and I'll say it until it's fixed: Until they get EVERY COLLEGE to conference up and form an NCAA SCHEDULING COMMITTEE to at least level that part of the process a bit, there is always going to be controversy surrounding this whole deal. That would include either every conference having a conference championship or no conference having one.

Would love to see them take the currrent BCS bit and just add the one extra game at the end, pitting #1 vs. #4 and #2 vs. #3 one week with the two winners playing the championship a week later. Otherwise, I remain quite pleased with the way the BCS works. It's certainly 100 fold better than the old method when bowls were locked into taking a team from one conference or another.

[mmike032]

maybe some good will come out of the debacle. not likely but maybe. year after year its the same ole song and dance. theres always 1 team that can make a good argument to make the title game but gets shafted.
1st thing that needs to change is the way the conference handles the tiebreaker. Doesnt every other conference use the head to head game as the tiebreaker?
2nd thing that needs to happen is some kind of playoff but we may never see that.

Texas got hosed this year just like many teams before them have.

[Willie Bee]

Originally Posted by mmike032

1st thing that needs to change is the way the conference handles the tiebreaker. Doesnt every other conference use the head to head game as the tiebreaker?

That is the tiebreaker that is first on the list. However, this is a three-way tie in the Big 12 South, and taking the team ranked highest in the BCS poll is actually No. 5 on the list. It is a mess this year, but how often are we going to see a three-way tie like this and have to go to the fifth tiebreaker on the list?

[AMBlai01]

Originally Posted by mmike032

maybe some good will come out of the debacle. not likely but maybe. year after year its the same ole song and dance. theres always 1 team that can make a good argument to make the title game but gets shafted.
1st thing that needs to change is the way the conference handles the tiebreaker. Doesnt every other conference use the head to head game as the tiebreaker?
2nd thing that needs to happen is some kind of playoff but we may never see that.

Texas got hosed this year just like many teams before them have.

You can't use head to head in this case. There was a three way tie, Tech beat UT and UT beat OU. You can't just say that Texas gets the nod over OU because of a head to head tie breaker. I agree that UT is getting hosed in this whole thing but I'm just saying that you can't use the head to head in this situation.

[hoopster42]

Originally Posted by AMBlai01

You can't use head to head in this case. There was a three way tie, Tech beat UT and UT beat OU. You can't just say that Texas gets the nod over OU because of a head to head tie breaker. I agree that UT is getting hosed in this whole thing but I'm just saying that you can't use the head to head in this situation.

if you cant use head to head than please explain how texas is getting hosed? look at the non-conf sched's of both teams then come back and lets debate it so i can you look stupid

[blackbox]

NOTHING AGAINST TEXAS--BUT--COUPLE YEARS AGO TEXAS COACH GOT ALL HIS BUDDIES TO VOTE TEXAS - AND SOMEHOW MOVE AHEAD OF CAL-WHEN THEY DID NOT EVEN HAVE A GAME LEFT-A MIRACLE-TEXAS WENT TO BCS-CAL TO HOLIDAY BOWL--TEXAS FANS REMEMBER THIS!!

[fiveteamer]

Everyone would agree Texas non conference was weak as shit, but, Texas beat Oklahoma in a head-to-head, how can you possibly overlook that?

They played, Texas is better.

I guess there is too much logic in that argument and people like to make things more complicated.

[Doc JS]

I'm sure the Texas fans are upset and with good reason...they thought Texas Tech deserved to be in the title game because, after all, Tech beat them head-to-head.

That's Texas' arguement right? The beat OU head-to-head so they "deserve" to play in the conference championship...but I never hear them saying anything about Texas Tech, a team that beat them head-to-head. Curious...Don't you think???

Doc

[hoopster42]

Originally Posted by Doc JS

I'm sure the Texas fans are upset and with good reason...they thought Texas Tech deserved to be in the title game because, after all, Tech beat them head-to-head.

That's Texas' arguement right? The beat OU head-to-head so they "deserve" to play in the conference championship...but I never hear them saying anything about Texas Tech, a team that beat them head-to-head. Curious...Don't you think???

Doc

doc, you are making too much sense here by introducting facts. please stop that

if bring texas tech into the discussion as they deserve to be, then it blows up the texas argument. texas crybabies and cfb know nothings dont like when you ruin their rant by introducing the other 11-1 team that beat texas h2h

[fiveteamer]

Well if we want to get into non conference, than Texas Tech probably had THE easiest.

[JoshW]

Texas Tech > Texas > Oklahoma > Texas Tech ...

[Willie Bee]

Originally Posted by JoshW

Texas Tech > Texas > Oklahoma > Texas Tech ...

Sort of like wiping your ass with a wagon wheel, huh Josh? The shit just never ends.

What gets me is how this whole thing takes on a life-or-death importance to some people. Listening to some of the talking heads on a couple of networks yesterday, you'd think it was the bloody end of the world.

[dle]

Texas Tech is insignificant, this has to do with the national championship, not the conference championship. And the voters should have looked at who won head to head between the two teams that had national championship's riding on their decision.

End of story.