[bigboydan]

while were on the roids talk with Grimsley.

is there anyone out there who doesn't think that Luis Gonzalez didn't take steroids? He hasn't homered in 166 at bats. Sean Greene is more questionable but he also has had a major power drought the last couple of years. He's now a punch and judy hitter...

i'm just wondering if Grimsley dropped the dime on these two guys.

[goldengoat]

if i would have to bet, i'd say luis gonzalez did something whether hgh or roids or both

not sure about greene

[BuddyBear]

Gonzales had one year he hit 50 homers...given his frame and size I was always a bit suprised by him and Brady Anderson....esepcially since neither one could really ever duplicate those years.

[bigboydan]

theres no doubt in my mind that Brady Anderson was on them double B. but, i gotta assume both players mentioned above were on the roids.

[BAUS]

I think you mean Shawn Green......

You had me confused there for a minute...

BAUS

[bigboydan]

whoever you wanna spell it baus. i'm talking about the same guy

[Mudcat]

Green sure didn't look like a typical steroid candidate when he was in Toronto.

But then the same could be said of Gonzalez when he was swatting 50.

Maybe some guys get all bulky when they take the roids but stringy guys just get stringier.

Hell, I dunno. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they were roiding up. Not a bit.

[bigboydan]

Green sure didn't look like a typical steroid candidate when he was in Toronto.

mudcat, he was a candidate when he was with the dodgers too.

[onlooker]

These two guys arent the biggest out there, so its hard to believe they could of been juicing. But Im sure its not out of the question. Its possible I guess.

[bigboydan]

the thing is with both these players in question. is the fact that both players numbers have declined after they recieved there big contracts. now grant it, age has a big factor in there production numbers as well.

[onlooker]

Luis Gonzalez has had elbow/arm trouble if I remember right, so that could be part of his declining numbers. I know that is why teams challenge his arm strength when running the bases.

[bigboydan]

he also had shoulder problems over his career too looker. that could be signs of roids.

[bigboydan]

after both Grimsley and the d'backs threw Luis Gonzalez under the bus. Gonzo held a news conference yesterday to Deni he took any type of roids.

you just gotta assume that both the AZ clubhouse and the management is a shambles right about now.