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06-11-2006, 01:13 PM
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Is this guy a Hall of Famer?
Without revealing the name just yet, I am going to give you some numbers of a player not in the Hall, and you guys tell me if he deserves to be there.
330 plus homers Almost 1500 RBI .290 lifetime average 2 batting titles 1 MVP Award .345 in a World Series 3 Silver Slugger Awards 3 Gold Gloves Possessed one of the top two throwing arms in the game while he was playing 88 plus RBI seasons 20 plus homers 9 times 150 plus career stolen bases |
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06-11-2006, 01:26 PM
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Those are similar numbers to Jim Rice who isn't in the Hall. Of course that leads to the question of, should Rice be there? A lot of people think he should.
I'm not clear on this line: 88 plus RBI seasons In any case, based on that info I think my vote would be no. The numbers are very good but I'm not blown away. Different HOF's set different standards and I kind of like how baseball is very tough (unlike hockey). I would call that a great career and leave it at that.
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06-11-2006, 03:06 PM
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Somewhere along the line, the topic changed from are these numbers good enough for the HOF? to guess the player.
Nice call scotty.
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06-11-2006, 06:53 PM
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This is why I hate looking just at numbers. Guys like Parker, Rice, Dawson and I'll throw one more name at you from a while back, Vada Pinson, are borderline players. For my money, they were all right there as far as being in the top 10% of their contemporaries that is my loose cutoff/criteria.
I would rank Parker behind Rice, behind Pinson, behind Dawson as far as that quartet that is not in the HOF.
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06-11-2006, 07:00 PM
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That career summary describes Larry Walker, but he isn't a HOFer.
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06-11-2006, 07:06 PM
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Walker and Parker are two perfect comparisons from slightly different eras.
Another name to throw out there that should generate controversy is Albert Belle. That guy posted 10-yrs worth of really great numbers - better than Rice, Dawson, Pinson, Parker and Walker. He came off as an ass, putting it mildly. But he was a monster with a bat for a decade.
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06-11-2006, 07:11 PM
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Walker was a legitimate 5 tool player. Belle was not. But he did put up some numbers.
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