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Old 06-08-2006, 04:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well Hello everyone - Im new here to the forum... Ive been betting for about 10 years now... I joined because i wanted to inform people and make them aware of the so called "10% cash bonus" that skybook.com offers...

I sent in via WU 640.00 to bet on the Brewers in game 1 against SD... I just wanted to deposit my money playem and cash out... I called back in the mtcn number to skybook and told the clerk what the fees were etc.. at the end of the conversation the clerk politely offered me a 10% cash bonus, he said that he could "credit that right away to your account".. I was under the assumption that i could withdraw my winnings and that i would just forfeit the 64 dollar bonus AS IS STANDARD PRACTICE with virtually every sportsbook ive used....

I got my account balance up to 1800 dollars, and requested a payout the next day to withdraw 1500 and leave 300 in the account.

They told me that they wouldnt pay me because i accpeted the bonus THAT THEY OFFERED AND by accepting the 64 dollars they wont pay out ANY money until i wager another 2100 dollars...

I didnt want to bet big on any more games, i just wanted my money.. Its like going to vegas, placing a wager, and goin up to the window with your winning ticket & they say NOPE - NOT gonna pay ya... U didnt read the back of your ticket...

They say that you have to rollover your balance 4 times or they KEEP your money.. I guess my mistake for not going to a sportsbook with better reviews and endorsements... and i should have read the rules, but on the other hand they should have made it 100% clear to me that unless you roll over your bonus 4xs- EVEN IF YOU WIN WE WILL NOT PAY YOU A DIME...

I feel really pissed off and scammed but oh well i guess you learn the hard way...

Just remember DONT take their crappy bonus because they WILL HOSE you!!
Old 06-08-2006, 04:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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One more thing... A bonus shouldnt be used as a tool by the Sportsbook to Keep you from getting some or all of your winnings- to me thats just wrong keeping 1800 dollars of my money all for 64 bucks...
Old 06-08-2006, 04:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Of course you can't withdraw most of your funds after rolling them over only once when you have received a bonus. Some books allow you to withdraw winnings (which doesn't make sense at all if the book wants to make money and not only attract deposits).

So you have absolutely no case whatsoever.
Old 06-08-2006, 04:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Do not do anything rash. Just finish with the rollover requirement and get out. I feel if you allowed them to put the $64 bonus into your account, you then are obligated to fulfill the rollover requirement.
Old 06-08-2006, 04:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Of course he must fullfil it.

Makes absolutely no sense for a book to let a player withdraw winnings and 50% of the deposit after rolling the funds once when a bonus is involved.
Old 06-08-2006, 04:53 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Slash - maybe you didnt understand what i was saying - I was saying that usually with EVERY book that ive gone to nine.com, GC, Bodog, Betjm, Betgameday, Betcris... They NEVER hold your money til u meet the rollover req's they just deduct the bonus - you forfeit the bonus... and you have to pay WU fees and you can still get paid some of your money.. I just think its unethical to use that bonus as a tool to keep you from withdrawing ANY of your money...
Old 06-08-2006, 04:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Going to have to side with Skybook on this one.

The player first accepted the bonus, and by extension the rollover terms associated with receiving it.
Old 06-08-2006, 04:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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and gotsteam - yeah thats fine i said i made the mistake of accepting the bonus- but that doesnt make it right to hold 1800 of somebodies money bc some clerk offered a 10% cash bonus over the phone.. They push it on you and offer it as a way TO LOCK up your funds...
Old 06-08-2006, 04:59 PM   #9 (permalink)
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If they would have been clear and said "WE WILL NOT PAY YOU A DIME UNTIL YOU BET A TOTAL OF 2700 DOLLARS - DO YOU THINK I WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE 64 bucks? Just seems shady to me.. their bonus policies are what makes internet gambling look bad- wrong... imo someone should regulate them... if i wanted my initial 640 bucks back then yeah they should be REQUIRED to at least give me that because its MY MONEY..
Old 06-08-2006, 05:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
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No matter if you forfeit the bonus you shouldn't be allowed to withdraw. If you are allowed to withdraw they should also take back the money you made with the bonus part.
Old 06-08-2006, 05:50 PM   #11 (permalink)
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What do you mean you shouldnt be able to withdraw.. its YOUR MONEY, NOT THERES YOURS! Sportsbooks usually offer the bonus to attract customers - Just because you accept their offer it should in NO WAY give them a right to KEEP YOUR MONEY from you...

What sportsbook do you work for? You sure seem really PROSPORTSBOOK... Me myself, Im pro-bettor, SCREW THE BOOKS!! (except for the honest ones)

Sportsbooks are there for ONE REASON plain and simple TO TAKE YOUR MONEY!!! SKYBOOK just now has another avenue to TAKE YOUR MONEY AND KEEP FROM PAYING YOU as well...
Old 06-08-2006, 05:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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while I don't agree with the policy, it is clearly stated on skybook's site...
Old 06-08-2006, 06:00 PM   #13 (permalink)
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To me it does make sense to let people withdraw... because most players LOSE thats the point... Thats why they offer the bonus to get you in probably 9 out of 10 people lose their initial deposits and bonus..... so if they are gonna KEEP YOUR MONEY then they shouldnt offer that bonus in the first place..
Old 06-08-2006, 06:01 PM   #14 (permalink)
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yeah pags - i know that if you read my original post i said

"I guess my mistake for not going to a sportsbook with better reviews and endorsements... and i should have read the rules."
Old 06-08-2006, 06:05 PM   #15 (permalink)
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i wouldnt say clearly either, its in the fine print...
Old 06-08-2006, 06:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sweetlou
To me it does make sense to let people withdraw... because most players LOSE thats the point... Thats why they offer the bonus to get you in probably 9 out of 10 people lose their initial deposits and bonus..... so if they are gonna KEEP YOUR MONEY then they shouldnt offer that bonus in the first place..
Ok, I am done replying here. OMG, you are stupid!
Old 06-08-2006, 06:12 PM   #17 (permalink)
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name calling... real mature - who is stupid? did you learn to call people that from your 5 year old?
Old 06-08-2006, 06:17 PM   #18 (permalink)
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So what book is it slash? You swing pretty hard from their nutsacks... haha Im just wondering...
Old 06-08-2006, 06:25 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Ok, I am done replying here. OMG, you are stupid!
You are stupid. I think the guy has a case. They can stick their bonus up their ass. If the guy wants to withdrawal HIS money he should beable to. BOTTOMLINE. He can give the bonus back and pay the fees. If anything he should beable withdrawal his original deposit. The bonus is strictly a marketing tool used to get business. You can't use it as a way to keep from paying out a winner.