[SSLP]

Matt Cassel

Kurt Warner



I go with Matt Cassel after last night , after seeing him rush for over 50 yds and pass for over 300 you could tell he was trying his best . And to me for a young QB he shows great skills and a good future.

On the other Kurt Warner is ranked 2nd in history for completions .. but he has been in the league since 1965 , tuff call but i go with Matt

[fiveteamer]

Pats will get at least a 1st rounder for Cassel.

[Casperwaits]

Cassel just because Warner isn't really a backup. No shock that Leinart is not starting.

[Panic]

I think Brady Quinn is the best back up in the league. He had a good game last week for his first start. 23-35, 239 yrds, 2 TD's. 104 passer rating. This kid will be the real deal.

[rm18]

Brett Favre, he was a backup for Packers for one day.

[Casperwaits]

Originally Posted by Panic

I think Brady Quinn is the best back up in the league. He had a good game last week for his first start. 23-35, 239 yrds, 2 TD's. 104 passer rating. This kid will be the real deal.

I hear ya Panic, but for the year, Cassell has taken his team to more than a couple of victories. Until he wins a couple, I cannot call him the backup of the Year.

[SSLP]

Originally Posted by Panic

I think Brady Quinn is the best back up in the league. He had a good game last week for his first start. 23-35, 239 yrds, 2 TD's. 104 passer rating. This kid will be the real deal.

Nah one game doesnt make u anything .

He has potential but he will need at least 2 more season to get a feel for the league.

Cassel is showing great potential if he works on his arm strength a bit we could have a hall of famer.

He runs , he is fast and he has vision and he is becoming a leader. Props for him.

[Panic]

Okay...for the year....how can you not go with Kerry Collins? His team is undefeated.

[Casperwaits]

Collins is a good pick. Even better than Cassel. I agree.

[SSLP]

Kerry Collins still doesnt make a believer out of me . In my book they are the shittiest undefeated team in history.

They really are no dynasty they are just playing hard football nobody really taking the spotlight u could almost say BORING football.

[Panic]

Cant ask for anything more, SSLP. He steps in and the team hasnt lost. Nothing more he can do.

[Deuce]

Warner or Collins

Cassel was put into a solid situation. He has been ok but not even close to Brady.

[Panic]

Originally Posted by Casperwaits

Collins is a good pick. Even better than Cassel. I agree.

Casper- who is that girl in your avatar. Is that the bar girl you are trying to bang?

[SSLP]

Originally Posted by Panic

Cant ask for anything more, SSLP. He steps in and the team hasnt lost. Nothing more he can do.

I agree but we are talking about the QB not the team.


Things to take into consideration :

1. Progress
2. Skills
3. Leadership
4. Efforts

Those are just a few of the top of my head.

Collins is far from being a leader and his skills really dont make him shine

[daggerkobe]

Orton or Pennington.

[Casperwaits]

Originally Posted by Deuce

Warner or Collins

Cassel was put into a solid situation. He has been ok but not even close to Brady.

Deuce, comparing Cassel to Brady isn't really fair. Are you saying Cassel is less of a backup because the original starter is great?

[Casperwaits]

Originally Posted by Panic

Casper- who is that girl in your avatar. Is that the bar girl you are trying to bang?

No! That is a co-worker. The "other girl" wasn't there that night. She is in Boston. Her picture can be seen on another thread.

[Casperwaits]

Originally Posted by daggerkobe

Orton or Pennington.

Pennington is not a backup. Orton is a decent choice, but still not up to the qualifications of Cassell or Collins IMO.

[CrazyLou]

Cassel isn't really that good. He can make all the underneath or mid ranged throws, but what professional QB can't, aside from maybe Vince Young. He can scramble, but again most young guys can.

He has the best head coach in the game teaching him not to make mistakes which would cost his team to lose games, nothing more, nothing less.

[Panic]

Originally Posted by SSLP

I agree but we are talking about the QB not the team.


Things to take into consideration :

1. Progress
2. Skills
3. Leadership
4. Efforts

Those are just a few of the top of my head.

Collins is far from being a leader and his skills really dont make him shine

He has done everything that has been asked of him. His team sits atop the NFL. Cant get any better than that. There isnt a coach out there that wouldnt take that with a backup QB....there isnt a coach out there that wouldnt take that with a starter.

[Panic]

Originally Posted by Casperwaits

No! That is a co-worker. The "other girl" wasn't there that night. She is in Boston. Her picture can be seen on another thread.

oh, okay. Didnt know. I hope you get her. That girl you were with was a b!tch. You had to get away from that.

[fiveteamer]

Guy hasn't started since high school coming in to this year, Cassel is a good QB.

Lots of garbage QB's out there.

Washington

Houston

Detroit

San Fran

STL

Oak

KC

All would be better with Cassel.

[Kingctb27]

Collins. Thigpen is going to be a good one in a couple years though.

[daggerkobe]

Come on how is Pennington not a backup? Oh that's right he wasn't even good enough to be a backup with the Jets and was cut.

[CrazyLou]

Originally Posted by daggerkobe

Come on how is Pennington not a backup? Oh that's right he wasn't even good enough to be a backup with the Jets and was cut.

Pennigton is OK, efficient in certain systems but has no arm strength. A great dink and dunker, Cassel is better than Pennington but that's still not saying much.

[rm18]

cassel isn't better than chad, chad is #1 in history in completion%

[Casperwaits]

Originally Posted by daggerkobe

Come on how is Pennington not a backup? Oh that's right he wasn't even good enough to be a backup with the Jets and was cut.

Am I missing something. Hasn't Pennington been the Week One starter for the Dolphins..lol? This YEAR Pennington is a starter. Nuff said.

[pavyracer]

Best backup according to the records is Kerry Collins. The guy is 9-0!

[daggerkobe]

Then I withdraw Orton since he was week 1 starter.

[daggerkobe]

Kurt Warner should be DQ'd too since he started week 1.

[element1286]

Originally Posted by fiveteamer

Guy hasn't started since high school coming in to this year, Cassel is a good QB.

Lots of garbage QB's out there.

Washington

Houston

Detroit

San Fran

STL

Oak

KC

All would be better with Cassel.

There is nothing wrong with Shaub or Campbell.

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by Casperwaits

Deuce, comparing Cassel to Brady isn't really fair. Are you saying Cassel is less of a backup because the original starter is great?

Yes, Brady is better than Bledsoe and backed him up. Did he not?

[Casperwaits]

Originally Posted by Deuce

Yes, Brady is better than Bledsoe and backed him up. Did he not?

He sure did, but at the time, if you had asked me the same question at this time of the year, the answer would probably have been Brady.

[Casperwaits]

Originally Posted by daggerkobe

Kurt Warner should be DQ'd too since he started week 1.

You are absolutely right on Warner. If you notice on my posts, I have never mentioned Warner as someone I would call a backup this year.

[daggerkobe]

What about Orton..... he started week 1.