[Nwo4life]

Here are some emails i have recieved from creditwagering..Yes I did win with them, and when I lost, I have not yet paid. I did offer to send them 2 (500.00) money orders granted the give me a physicall adress(they refused). This is due in parts to them calling me numerouslly, calling my neighbors 24-7 and even blocking my fathers account for no reason whatsoever(read the email) I have not dockered any of these emails, only deleting my email addressI did tell them I was going to get a lawyer to stop the threats)

From: csd@creditwagering.com
Sent: Thu 10/30/08 6:03 PM
To: Jason S.

No thanks...you and your attorney can both **** off as you are a low life piece of shit stiff who took our money and did not pay. I will put you on our super stiff page and have my collection guy deal with you directly. You want to play games, no problem. Don't forget to see your new home on the Super Stiff page on Tuesday! btw...tell your dad his account is frozen and he has till the weekend to settle or we will treat him as we treat you.


From: csd@creditwagering.com
Sent: Fri 10/31/08 3:04 AM
To: Jason S.

How stupid are you? You take our money and stiff us and now threated us! Look forward to you and your daddy paying real soon!. You are a broke stiff who can't afford a lawyer as you can't afford to pay your debts.
From: csd@creditwagering.com

Sent: Fri 10/31/08 1:43 PM
To: Jason S. ()

All we did was pay you when you won. In terms of your Dad's account, what ever bet he made or had pending was not deleted, just access to his account was blocked because of your attitude. You have now blamed us and threaten us when we did no wrong but pay you and want the same treatment. You have no idea who we are for sure, and continuing to make threats and blame us will not change your situation. The only thing that will is for you to apologize and settle your account. Our goal is never to have to put a customer on the stiff page at all, but disrespecting us as an approach not to settle will not be tolerated.

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This is only a fraction of what I have delt with in regards to these people. I told them if i lost, send my debt to collections and it would be included in a chapter 13.Or give me a physicall adress and I will send them 2 money orders They continouslly call, call my neighbors, and blocked my dads account.I have never heard of a sportsbook blocking a relative or familly members account becuase the other didnt pay(no we dont live anywhere near each other). To sum it up ya this book pays. Ya I did win with them. Ya they did pay. And Ya i did lose a 1,000 in there rigged casino on purpose..Why? Becuase I wan't to truely see if they will put me on there supper stiff page.Becuase if they do, they will be sued, and I will no where they are located. If any SBR representatives needs any of these emails as proof,please email me and I will fwd them along.

[teaserpleaser]

Im pretty sure people are going to flame you more than help you on here but GL.

[Nwo4life]

You can flame me all you want...All im trying to get out is these people do not follow any rules in regards to the law at all..And to block someone else's account in this situation is unheard of. All I want to accomplish is to actually find out where they are located, and I'm in the process of doing so......

[teaserpleaser]

why would i want to flame you?... Not me theres alot of kids on these forums unless a mod comes i doubt you'll get anything nice... GL with what your trying to do.

[firedawg]

i dont believe this for 1 second

[erybdyducksth]

dude you have nothing to work about. There are going to be some F*cks on here are going to call you a stiff and a dead beat. I took a lot on here. I have 3 locals that ive never stiffed nor would i ever. I stiffed credit wagering because there is nothing they can do about it. Which is so funny. You must sign a contract with them for you to be liable and nothing like that happen. They are a fly by night. They will not last long. No one and i mean no one is posting up with this company. I love these guys on here that say tell them i sent you. Be proud of your pic. I am

[jjgold]

More and more people are stiffing CW

Not a good sign for them

[JBC77]

I don't think it's funny at all. The most disturbing thing: "I did offer to send them 2 (500.00) money orders granted the give me a physicall adress(they refused)."

No physicall location. How long until some broke sap who gets put up on the stiff page, goes down to his/her local FBI branch and tells them all about the wonderful people at CreditWagering.com.....who are probably located right in the U.S.

I going to laugh my a$$ off when this thing goes up in flames, might not happen tomorrow or the next day....but eventually the sh1t is going to hit the fan.

[THEGREAT30]

I sometimes fail to believe the things people say about this company. How stupid is it if they really are calling peoples neighboors? How do they know that the next neighboor they call isnt indeed a police, lawyer, or federal agent. I find it difficult to believe that someone running a business that hopes to be a success is this stupid.

[fiveteamer]

I would seriously doubt if they are calling this guy's neighbours.

[wtf]

now i am freaking out, how they got the nieghbors phone numbers? via addresses? is it that easy?

[Nwo4life]

Yes they have called my neighbors...for 14.99 you can get alot of info on someone via the internet...I have no reason to make this up...I want to be put on the stiff list but they won't put me there. They have called 2 of my neighbors and god knows who else...I get 3-5 calls a day from (caller id #'s) 000-000-0000 or unavailable. They change the number somehow like the spoofcard allows you 2 do so.

[THEGREAT30]

Bad business if they are doing this, if someone calls you 3 times with threats or harrasment that can be filed with local police, and why would they spend $15 on a stiff when they arent gonna get anything from a stiff, that's just furthuring there losses, Im sorry I just dont believe these people are as stupid as people are making them out to be.

[englishmike]

If you stiffed them, good luck to you, if you played and paid, good luck to you, whatever anyone does is up to them, it's a dog-eat-dog world we're living in.

If you want to be an investigtive journalist quit your job at McDonalds, stop crying like a baby and go to university. Or join the Feds. What exactly is your point?

[Bread]

A supper stiff page!?!? Sounds delicious!!

[Nwo4life]

why do collection agencys call your work your neighbor etc..If it cost 15.00 to collect even 100-500 of what there owed, more people would rather have the harasement stop at work and at home. So it would be a 15.00 well spent..That's how much it cost the average joe, im sure places like that have way cheaper ways.

[RogueScholar]

Originally Posted by englishmike

If you stiffed them, good luck to you, if you played and paid, good luck to you, whatever anyone does is up to them, it's a dog-eat-dog world we're living in.

If you want to be an investigtive journalist quit your job at McDonalds, stop crying like a baby and go to university. Or join the Feds. What exactly is your point?

Spoken like a true stiff. Did you ever pay your debt to them, Mike? If not, which one are you on the Stiffs page?

[Richkas]

Originally Posted by jjgold

More and more people are stiffing CW

Not a good sign for them

80% are stiffs and you can still show a profit.


You have to treat some of these guys this way. Its the only language they know.

[englishmike]

Originally Posted by RogueScholar

Spoken like a true stiff. Did you ever pay your debt to them, Mike? If not, which one are you on the Stiffs page?

I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not surprised you found your way to this thread, as soon as you saw the word 'stiff' i'll bet your ass twitched. How have you been, the chat's a lot better now they've got rid of the deviants such as yourself, i've been busy the last few weeks, I was campaigning the prop 8 issue, it's good to get involved in local politics. How's your husband?

[roasthawg]

When I won they paid, when I lost I paid. That's gambling...pay up.

[firedawg]

did you worry about thier location when you collected you stiff fuk?
what a joke you are

[THEGREAT30]

Originally Posted by Nwo4life

why do collection agencys call your work your neighbor etc..If it cost 15.00 to collect even 100-500 of what there owed, more people would rather have the harasement stop at work and at home. So it would be a 15.00 well spent..That's how much it cost the average joe, im sure places like that have way cheaper ways.

Never heard of legit collection agencies calling anyones neighboor and I havent allways lived in the suburbs. Im sure plenty of my former neighboors where credit card stiffs, utility bill stiffs, and on and on.

[RogueScholar]

Originally Posted by englishmike

I have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not surprised you found your way to this thread, as soon as you saw the word 'stiff' i'll bet your ass twitched. How have you been, the chat's a lot better now they've got rid of the deviants such as yourself, i've been busy the last few weeks, I was campaigning the prop 8 issue, it's good to get involved in local politics. How's your husband?

Why are you such a hateful person, Mikey? Why does gay sex aggravate you and move you to such anger and resentment. It almost seems like you wait for a word like "stiff" to come up in a post to make a slight towards me and the GLBT community in general. You never see a gay person flying off the handle at the mention of straight sex, yet you can't handle even being in the presence of a discussion that includes alternative sexuality. Some studies suggest that this is a defense mechanism for people who have latent homosexual tendencies themself.

I'm glad you think the chat room is better, and it definitely fits with your political efforts to discriminate against a whole class of law-abiding citizens. I'm going to pray for you, because it seems like you have a ton of emotional baggage you're carrying around. Let me share something with you in the hopes of warming your heart and opening your eyes:

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

These are the words of Martin Niemöller, admonishing us against tacitly or directly allowing discrimination against any member of our society, because with the first link, the chain is forged. May God bless you and keep you, may the Lord make his light to shine upon you, that you may know and share His love with the world.

[Iwinyourmoney]

sad. Just pay. What if they stiffed you? Your attitude would be the same as theirs.

[Nwo4life]

I am trying to pay...but after what they did, the only way i will pay them is if they give me an address to send 2 money orders 2.

[Bluehorseshoe]

Originally Posted by Nwo4life

I am trying to pay...but after what they did, the only way i will pay them is if they give me an address to send 2 money orders 2.

How about sending it to any address they say and getting it over with?

[Brock Landers]

you lose, you pay, simple as that

[Iwinyourmoney]

you knew signing up your payment options. Don't look for a cowardly way out. Just western union it and grow up

[Bill Dozer]

Originally Posted by Nwo4life

Here are some emails i have recieved from creditwagering..Yes I did win with them, and when I lost, I have not yet paid. I did offer to send them 2 (500.00) money orders granted the give me a physicall adress(they refused). This is due in parts to them calling me numerouslly, calling my neighbors 24-7 and even blocking my fathers account for no reason whatsoever(read the email) I have not dockered any of these emails, only deleting my email addressI did tell them I was going to get a lawyer to stop the threats)

From: csd@creditwagering.com
Sent: Thu 10/30/08 6:03 PM
To: Jason S.

No thanks...you and your attorney can both **** off as you are a low life piece of shit stiff who took our money and did not pay. I will put you on our super stiff page and have my collection guy deal with you directly. You want to play games, no problem. Don't forget to see your new home on the Super Stiff page on Tuesday! btw...tell your dad his account is frozen and he has till the weekend to settle or we will treat him as we treat you.


From: csd@creditwagering.com
Sent: Fri 10/31/08 3:04 AM
To: Jason S.

How stupid are you? You take our money and stiff us and now threated us! Look forward to you and your daddy paying real soon!. You are a broke stiff who can't afford a lawyer as you can't afford to pay your debts.
From: csd@creditwagering.com

Sent: Fri 10/31/08 1:43 PM
To: Jason S. ()

All we did was pay you when you won. In terms of your Dad's account, what ever bet he made or had pending was not deleted, just access to his account was blocked because of your attitude. You have now blamed us and threaten us when we did no wrong but pay you and want the same treatment. You have no idea who we are for sure, and continuing to make threats and blame us will not change your situation. The only thing that will is for you to apologize and settle your account. Our goal is never to have to put a customer on the stiff page at all, but disrespecting us as an approach not to settle will not be tolerated.

------------------------------------------------------------

This is only a fraction of what I have delt with in regards to these people. I told them if i lost, send my debt to collections and it would be included in a chapter 13.Or give me a physicall adress and I will send them 2 money orders They continouslly call, call my neighbors, and blocked my dads account.I have never heard of a sportsbook blocking a relative or familly members account becuase the other didnt pay(no we dont live anywhere near each other). To sum it up ya this book pays. Ya I did win with them. Ya they did pay. And Ya i did lose a 1,000 in there rigged casino on purpose..Why? Becuase I wan't to truely see if they will put me on there supper stiff page.Becuase if they do, they will be sued, and I will no where they are located. If any SBR representatives needs any of these emails as proof,please email me and I will fwd them along.

It would be interesting to hear from your father. Did he have a positive balance?

[CaneDawg]

You won they paid you

Now pay them

Is there no honor is this world

[MartinBlank]

Silly question.

But if they refuse your money orders, what type of payment are they demanding?

And if you have the cash for the money orders, why not just fookin' pay them?

What am I missing?

[THEGREAT30]

Originally Posted by Bill Dozer

It would be interesting to hear from your father. Did he have a positive balance?

I second that.

[CaneDawg]

If you western union or moneygram they pay the fees plus give you a 15 percent bonus.

No rollover bullcrap either

[daggerkobe]

I don't understand these threads.

Why would you want to advertise to the world that you're a stiff? Do you really think it makes you look cool? Are you and your father trying to be the first father-son duo to make their stiff page?

I'm no fan of CW and find their shills annoying (all of them should only be allowed to post in promotions).... but if they paid you, then you should pay them back.

[jstblaze]

even if you by chance this book does close up soemtime down the line, because they are trying to operate with a model that didnt work, they are currently paying winners, and current losers should pay just the same. Especially if they already paid you out personally!!!If there is a report about people not getting paid with no legit reasonable reason, then everyone who wants can stiff these guys. but while they are paying, and there is no reaosn to think otherwise, then you have no right cause all this mess.if I ran a book, I would rather no one know who I was as well. and if I paid everyoen on time, and did everyhting right, I am not sure why anyone should care who or where I was.when they do soemthign wrong ( i dotn mean misgrade w ager or soem other small issue), then it is open season.but this is just an unhonourable person not wanting to come through on the obligation, that you expect the other side to come thorugh on. makes no sense, there is no argument for this. pretty clear!