[englishmike]

Is there anyone else who couldnt give a sh1t?

[AMBlai01]

I'm sick of hearing about it so....

1.) AMBlai01

[Bread]

2) Barack Obreada

[thejrichshow85]

dumb thread by a dumb brit .... AMB whats your excuse ?

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OBAMA !

[pico]

sign in.

obama seems like a nice prez though. mccain seems nice also, but palin is a joke.

[CaneDawg]

sign me up

[Willie Bee]

While I do give a sh¡t, I'm tired of all the rhetoric and the divisive climate that the elephants and donkeys each bring to the table before they go about business as usual lining either their pockets, the pockets of their cronies, or both. Sign me up, EM.

[pico]

i think the donkey is giving the elephant rim jobs for the last 8 years.

[jjgold]

who cares

I am more concerned who is going to cover games

[SlickFazzer]

the sun comes up and sbr is still working.

[Robyn]

I have been looking forward to the day following the election for almost a year now.

idonotgiveashit.com

[aszzzbrokerman]

it doesnt matter....its called checks and balances

[RogueScholar]

I'm truly far more upset that California's Proposition 8 passed, amending the California State Constitution to expressly define marriage as between one man and one woman. People can elect whoever they want as President, but now we're using our governing documents to strip rights from people, and history has shown that to be a very destructive thing.

[BadNina]

I know. What were they thinking putting something for the majority of the people to decide? What do they thing this is? A country that allows their people to decide things???

[RogueScholar]

But when you open matters of discrimination to a plebiscite, the result is almost always more discrimination. If these types of restrictions were aimed against the majority, they would never make it on the ballot because even Americans aren't that stupid yet. The government is supposed to protect the weakest members of soceity, not assist the majority in subjugating them.

[Shark79]

[RogueScholar]

Originally Posted by Shark79

Thanks Sharky, for pointing out something I've been saying about the internet for almost ten years now. Animated smileys completely destroy so many posts on the internet, not just on this forum. People think they can make a statement about a topic without having to craft a single intelligent, complete sentence. I'd love it if you could reply with an actual grouping of words which accurately demonstrated your feelings on the issue.

Oh, and where's the OP? EnglishMike! Where've you been? This place was missing your unique brand of hate and homophobia. No one has told me that I should contract AIDS and die since you left. How did you vote on Prop 8?

[BadNina]

Originally Posted by RogueScholar

But when you open matters of discrimination to a plebiscite, the result is almost always more discrimination. If these types of restrictions were aimed against the majority, they would never make it on the ballot because even Americans aren't that stupid yet. The government is supposed to protect the weakest members of soceity, not assist the majority in subjugating them.

Actually I think it is more that people do not want the courts making law. The courts are there to interpret not legislate. The role of government is to protect all the people not one group.

[Beat up the book]

Originally Posted by RogueScholar

Thanks Sharky, for pointing out something I've been saying about the internet for almost ten years now. Animated smileys completely destroy so many posts on the internet, not just on this forum. People think they can make a statement about a topic without having to craft a single intelligent, complete sentence. I'd love it if you could reply with an actual grouping of words which accurately demonstrated your feelings on the issue.

Oh, and where's the OP? EnglishMike! Where've you been? This place was missing your unique brand of hate and homophobia. No one has told me that I should contract AIDS and die since you left. How did you vote on Prop 8?

You right.

[Beat up the book]

Originally Posted by jjgold

who cares

I am more concerned who is going to cover games

For real, Ball st or NIU.

[Richkas]

Originally Posted by jjgold

who cares

I am more concerned who is going to cover games

I totally agree.

[Shark79]

Originally Posted by RogueScholar

Thanks Sharky, for pointing out something I've been saying about the internet for almost ten years now. Animated smileys completely destroy so many posts on the internet, not just on this forum. People think they can make a statement about a topic without having to craft a single intelligent, complete sentence. I'd love it if you could reply with an actual grouping of words which accurately demonstrated your feelings on the issue.

Oh, and where's the OP? EnglishMike! Where've you been? This place was missing your unique brand of hate and homophobia. No one has told me that I should contract AIDS and die since you left. How did you vote on Prop 8?

So the animated smiley didnt wink at you or something? Whats with the hate???

Topic here is SIGN IN HERE IF YOU COULDNT GIVE A FLYING FVCK WHO'S PRESIDENT

Well my signature is the smiley.

Sorry it wasnt of your taste ... but then again ... I could careless. See you in chat !!

[RogueScholar]

Originally Posted by BadNina

Actually I think it is more that people do not want the courts making law. The courts are there to interpret not legislate. The role of government is to protect all the people not one group.

Nah, although I respect your position, I think it's the ostrich in the sand effect. Every person I talked to when I was out urging people to vote No on 8 used the excuse that they didn't want gay marriage taught in school. They had no concept of the judicial aspect of gay marriage arriving in California this year. Most people aren't even smart enough to understand the concept of judicial activism, which renders them unable to be upset about it. They just wanted to be able to tell their kids that gay people are evil and headed to hell without the public schools contradicting that opinion.

And, interestingly enough, this was more an interpretation than an instance of creationism. Referencing the California Constitution as we found it yesterday:

ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS


SECTION 1. All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.

Now I think that most straight people would include finding a marriage partner as a very integral part of the pursuit of happiness. All the California Supreme Court was afford those protections to the obvious interests of the GLBT community. This Proposition is nothing more than legal sanction of public discrimination, which passed because it's much more acceptable to discard gays from society than entire races.

[RogueScholar]

Originally Posted by Shark79

So the animated smiley didnt wink at you or something? Whats with the hate???

Topic here is SIGN IN HERE IF YOU COULDNT GIVE A FLYING FVCK WHO'S PRESIDENT

Well my signature is the smiley.

Sorry it wasnt of your taste ... but then again ... I could careless. See you in chat !!

Sharky, these threads are much like conversations, in that the posted topic is simply the genesis of an exchange of thoughts and ideas which often quickly evolves away from the original debate. It was factually impossible to infer your intent from that single smiley. I'm sorry if you took offense, but had you thrown a sentence in with your smiley no misunderstanding would have been possible.

Thanks for illustrating the point.

[BadNina]

Didn't CA already have this vote once? And the courts overturned the people?

[englishmike]

Originally Posted by RogueScholar

Oh, and where's the OP? EnglishMike! Where've you been? This place was missing your unique brand of hate and homophobia. No one has told me that I should contract AIDS and die since you left. How did you vote on Prop 8?

The Op is back because you've been banned from the chatroom, it's nice to be able to talk about games without having to listen to you tell everyone else how sore your ass is. How do you think I voted on prop 8? Take your boyfriend to Iran and marry him, I've heard they're into that sort of thing.

[pavyracer]

Can we all get along like pavy and bread (pool boy and menudo)?

[betplom]

Originally Posted by RogueScholar

Animated smileys completely destroy so many posts on the internet, not just on this forum. People think they can make a statement about a topic without having to craft a single intelligent, complete sentence.

lol