[barrywoode]

Hello All.

This is my first post on this forum. I have posted at another site for a while which I will not name but am having a problem with a book and was told this is the place that may help.

The site sounded great from what some of the members were saying but I found out quickly it was not that way. I deposited only $250 dollars as that is all I can do right now.

I talked to a Chuck at one point and than a Mike. They kept asking or bigger and bigger deposits. Was strange but I figured whatever I wasnt going to send anymore anyway.

I ran it up though to 886 bucks and requested withdrawl. So I was pretty pumped. 47 days later I still havent seen a penny.
Frustrating to keep getting stories and the run around.

Anyone here know anything about them or can help?

Hopefully I can get some help and be a help new forum member to everyone!


This has been a big waste of time and energy.

Thanks

[bigboydan]

Have you meet your rollover requirements? If so please feel free to fill out a complaint form and one of us will inquire to them on your behalf.

[Panic]

welcome aboard. I'm sure the guy from BetFirstClass will be along soon....if the past is any indication. Gotta watch out for books like this. Do more research...not just rely on someones word somewhere.

[Mudcat]

Comes across as fishy to me. I consider BFC to be high risk but something about this doesn't feel right.

But if you are on the level, I hope you will file a formal complaint with SBR.

[mtneer1212]

And if you are on the level, a previous post from BetFirstClass said that they would close if they couldn't pay. Good luck.

But, let's wait until all of the facts are in.......

[sofun]

wowowwow, finally we hear something from betfirstclass.
where is micheal from betfirtclass??, please go out to public and clean up your shit.

[FIRST CLASS]

Hello All.

This is my first post on this forum. I have posted at another site for a while which I will not name but am having a problem with a book and was told this is the place that may help.

The site sounded great from what some of the members were saying but I found out quickly it was not that way. I deposited only $250 dollars as that is all I can do right now.

I talked to a Chuck at one point and than a Mike. They kept asking or bigger and bigger deposits. Was strange but I figured whatever I wasnt going to send anymore anyway.

I ran it up though to 886 bucks and requested withdrawl. So I was pretty pumped. 47 days later I still havent seen a penny.
Frustrating to keep getting stories and the run around.

Anyone here know anything about them or can help?

Hopefully I can get some help and be a help new forum member to everyone!


This has been a big waste of time and energy.

Thanks

LOL

OK OK OK I've learned (LIL)

so, rather than getting all fired up like I did last time at the moron that said he had an acct MR $847 dollar man Provide me accurate acct Details of your BULLSHIT ABOVE & SBR can come get $1500 CASH if you are 4-real , which Obviously you are NOT

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

DO

PEOPLE CON'T to do this SHIT

incase you wonder whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy toook so long for us reply we received this via BIGDADDY @ EOG

OK OK OK I said I wasn't going to GO OFF but sir Provide us some Details & for god sakes Take screen shots like evryone else on planet earth does that has been ****ed over by scams BOOOKS

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR



MIKE

[FIRST CLASS]

SORRRRRRY

I LIED or im justy fking stupid, whoever posted this please call the Office right now As I'd love to get your acct info / BECAUSE it is extrememly Obvious you have NO ACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCT

You mention $250 DEP

OUR MIN DEP = $500 unless special Promo

If you made honest Mistake, I;m SORRRRY but you mention MY name & say you spoke to ME, YOU HAVE NEVER EVERY FKING SPOKE TO ME

yes yes yes yes fellow SBR---ers MIKE BLOW UP AGAIN


but, if you were called cheat/Thief/Scam YOU WOULD DO THE SAME


UFB

WE even paid Phila Betttors Tonight BEFORE ANYONE ELSE within 30-secs

SEE MANY POSTS ON EOG RE: THIS

NO ONE PAID PHILA TICKETS AS FAST AS WE DID

[InTheHole]

What Philly ticket did you pay? Just curious...

[AK]

Hello All.

This is my first post on this forum. I have posted at another site for a while which I will not name but am having a problem with a book and was told this is the place that may help.

The site sounded great from what some of the members were saying but I found out quickly it was not that way. I deposited only $250 dollars as that is all I can do right now.

I talked to a Chuck at one point and than a Mike. They kept asking or bigger and bigger deposits. Was strange but I figured whatever I wasnt going to send anymore anyway.

I ran it up though to 886 bucks and requested withdrawl. So I was pretty pumped. 47 days later I still havent seen a penny.
Frustrating to keep getting stories and the run around.

Anyone here know anything about them or can help?

Hopefully I can get some help and be a help new forum member to everyone!


This has been a big waste of time and energy.

Thanks

Barry,

Welcome to SBR, I believe your thread. This is an organization that has done nothing but lie! They also said I made up my screenshots.

Check out AK's Blog regarding this scam operation betfirstclass.
http://ak.mysbrforum.com/blog/0724-a...class-com.html

[FIRST CLASS]

I OWE THIS MAN AN APOLOGY

HE NEVER SAYS BFC

Someone simply suggested BFC

This man NEVER had an acct with us, JUST LIKE THE OTHER POSTER DID NOT ..............and $800 c-mon use commmon sense folks, $800 / be realistic

[FIRST CLASS]

PHILA tonight

GAME IS 2-2

BUT Vegas Rules, you have revert back to the Prior--Inning & Altho we LOST OUR ASS, we paid all PHILA PHILLIES WAGERS tonight Before any other sportsbook / Well BEFORE any other Less than 30-secs after the SUSP Game

WE PAID EVERYONE / GO EOG to see

& the Above Man NEVER had acct here

we pay & PAY---FAST ie less than 3 hrs in many many cases

[fiveteamer]

nobody wants to go to EOG.

[InTheHole]

PHILA tonight

GAME IS 2-2

BUT Vegas Rules, you have revert back to the Prior--Inning & Altho we LOST OUR ASS, we paid all PHILA PHILLIES WAGERS tonight Before any other sportsbook / Well BEFORE any other Less than 30-secs after the SUSP Game

WE PAID EVERYONE / GO EOG to see

& the Above Man NEVER had acct here

we pay & PAY---FAST ie less than 3 hrs in many many cases

So I am assuming no action on tommorows game? By the way...it is obvious that your trying to work with this guy...somebody has something against your book.

[AK]

Avoid BetFirstClass at all cost You are throwing Your money away!

Check Out this Blog regarding this scam operation

http://ak.mysbrforum.com/blog/0724-a...class-com.html

[durito]

Your posting and writing skills really do wonders for the publicity of your book.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Not only do you come across as classless and somewhat shady in handling this type of matter once again, BFC, but if this person really doesn't have an account with you, you seem to have made some enemies somewhere along the way. That certainly does not bode well for your book's reputation.

[sofun]

hey BFC S***HHH,
AK had found some good informations about your books, your liars, and your BS.
how come I did not see you response to his post and people in this forum.
I post the link here in case you don't see it liars and BS
http://ak.mysbrforum.com/blog/0724-a...class-com.html

[Mudcat]

I can't help but wonder if this is related to a certain poster who was trying to take pot shots at BFC a few days back. The poster is a well-known scammer and he was beefing nonsensically against BFC. Creating a ghost like this and a bogus complaint is exactly the kind of thing that poster would do.

I don't know. Again, if there is anything legit here, I hope there will be a formal complaint and we can all learn something.

But with this other poster's history it is impossible not to wonder.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I OWE THIS MAN AN APOLOGY

HE NEVER SAYS BFC

Someone simply suggested BFC

This man NEVER had an acct with us, JUST LIKE THE OTHER POSTER DID NOT ..............and $800 c-mon use commmon sense folks, $800 / be realistic

Uhh. Read the title of the thread.

[johnnystud]

If You do a Google Search on betfirstclass You will see a variety of nasty things on them. They have been open for a short amount of time and it appears nothing but trouble.

http://ak.mysbrforum.com/blog/0724-a...class-com.html

BetFirstClass Warning

Aug 24, 2008 ... BetFirstClass Warning The unrated sportsbook is one of 11 betting websites on its platform. They share the same IP address. ...
www.sportsbookreview.com/NewsWire/3422/BetFirstClass+Warning.aspx - 18k -

Betfirstclass - steer clear - Sports Handicapping - Sports Betting ...

35 posts - Last post: Aug 26
Most guys here don't need this warning but avoid BetFirstClass. The book is showing more red flags than this year's olympics.
forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/97136-betfirstclass-steer-clear.html - 218k -

Newly launched online sportsbook BetFirstClass (betfirstclass.com) enters TheOnlinewire Sportsbook Rating Guide with a rating of 3 (high risk).

And goes on and on

[Mudcat]

Some of you guys are getting irrational.

There is every reason to consider any new start-up high risk.

But a lot of these conclusions you are jumping to are unfounded. The links you are referencing are not proof of anything. They are just people like me giving common sense advice based on history. They aren't about BFC doing anything wrong.

And if anyone is seriously using stuff AK posted as proof of anything, you are on drugs. He has done 100 times more crap in the industry than BFC.

(In fact, I don't think BFC has done anything wrong other than a bit of poor public relations).



This thread is about one complaint which I personally think is bogus. If it's not, then there will be a complaint and we'll see how it goes.

That's it.

[FIRST CLASS]

AK ALSO ASKED ME ON PHONE (VIA TAPE) of we Fed-Ex him $2500 not only would he quit bashing us, but he would advertise for Us.

point being, time will show we pay & pay fast

we paid $27,000 in Winning PHILA Tickets tonight when we could have called in NO-ACTION and we paid faster than any BOOK 30-secs after it was called we paid ALL PHILA---WAGER(s) . . . . . . & yet you think it's feasible or logical for us to **** this guy out of $800 ?????? / Just think about it people, thats ALL I ask is simply think about IT

$800?????

again Provide Info & SBR & BILL can swing by & Get $1500 tonight or tommorrow if "FACTUAL" . . . . . . .



Michael

[johnnystud]

And if anyone is seriously using stuff AK posted as proof of anything, you are on drugs.

appears SBR does?

10/11/2005 05:05 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: SBRforum poster AK reports that bet33 (SBR rating F) is a new venture from known sportsbook stiff, Robbie Mcphail. SBR has confirmed this to be true. Robbie, formerly the owner of ApexSportsbook (SBR rating F-), is introducing himself as the General Manager of bet33 and is now using the name Zach. Players should steer clear of any sportsbook that is using the services of this scam artist.

[FIRST CLASS]

Yeah I think the poster is directing it towards BFC, that much seems to be clear. That said though I agree with Mudcat, this just doesn't sound right. I wish I had a quarter for every poster with 1 post that complains about a book that turns out to be garbage. From Spiro at Greek all the way to WSEX and back, all books have dealt with this at one time or another. I don't play at BFC but I don't think this thread is going to make or break them.

SIR, you are 100% correct & not to sound arrogant but I could take the $800 & throw out fking window

It's NOT that this Thread cost(s) me that Much money, but it Hurts "REP" which to me is more important than Money .............

To back up what I say, fund your acct "SIR" with $800 & I will Personally Dep extra $800 / IE $1600 into your acct IF NOTHING ELSE JUST TO SHOW THIS MAN IS FULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL IF SHI!

sorry, just really upsets me that people make this shit up & they gain nothing by doing it, Just can't see "Motivation" can someone educate me on Motivation to LIE about having an acct here, ?????



Michael

[AK]

Listen Guys, Thesis Mike guy is full of crap and full of lies. Instead of attacking the poster maybe they should answer the questions. I think JC asked them 5 times to respond at his safe eog ground and they didn't?

Originally Posted by JC
BetFirstClass,

Instead of attacking AK, can you please respond to the allegations in his original post section by section?

Thank you

No he didn't answer my question.

Please stop with the PM's and just respond to AK's original post.

Or, since OSU has corroborated your connection to BetSportsInc.com, you can skip all of the stuff between BFC and BSI and please elaborate on your connection to Cascade.

LIERS!

[Mr. NBA]

Mike has been nothing short of awesome to me. Paid me $4700 bucks in 3 installents over 4 days and never charged a dime......THEN said i had a 20% bonus waiting for me if i decide to come back. Sent 1500 and got a free 3 hundy , but did end up losing it. And once again he said come on back and he hook me up with 20% bonus anytime. Dont believe the shit you read from a one post wonder fellas. We all know better. BFC is a must out with their lines on several games per week being much different than other shops. Certainly not a cookie cutter operation.


NBA starts tomorrow boys.....gl

[MonkeyF0cker]

AK ALSO ASKED ME ON PHONE (VIA TAPE) of we Fed-Ex him $2500 not only would he quit bashing us, but he would advertise for Us.

point being, time will show we pay & pay fast

we paid $27,000 in Winning PHILA Tickets tonight when we could have called in NO-ACTION and we paid faster than any BOOK 30-secs after it was called we paid ALL PHILA---WAGER(s) . . . . . . & yet you think it's feasible or logical for us to **** this guy out of $800 ?????? / Just think about it people, thats ALL I ask is simply think about IT

$800?????

again Provide Info & SBR & BILL can swing by & Get $1500 tonight or tommorrow if "FACTUAL" . . . . . . .



Michael

What the hell do you mean you could have graded it no action? I sure as f\*\*k hope you have explicit rules posted on your site for grading suspended MLB games. If you do, is that supposed to be commendable that you followed your own posted rules? And if you don't, there is NO WAY IN HELL that I would EVER post up there.

[FIRST CLASS]

I believe you BFC, I don't like to see books (or anyone else) get extorted. If that is AK that makes this pretty disgusting. Moving on though, how would you make the game no action? Pretty routine you pay out the side if the game goes 5 full right?

AND WE DID PAY / faster than anyone else

My point was more to the fact if we were going "screw" anyone It damn sure wouldn't be for $800 . . . When People post things Like this They need have a clue that $800 to a BOOK is like 25-cents / If they wanna get anyone's attn they NEED say we owe them like $35-K That would be Lil' more logical ...............

That said, if he had 35-K coming he would have it Monday @ 9 a.m.

Sorry, Just extremely Frustrating . . . . . . .


best of luck to you all ........Hadn't been here in over month & prob. not again for a month but received email re: another FKING IDIOT claiming we owed him $800 Big--dollars, & sad that "few" of you actually believe this BS

Amazinggggggggggggggggggggg



Mike

[FIRST CLASS]

What the hell do you mean you could have graded it no action? I sure as f\*\*k hope you have explicit rules posted on your site for grading suspended MLB games. If you do, is that supposed to be commendable that you followed your own posted rules? And if you don't, there is NO WAY IN HELL that I would EVER post up there.

RE--READ

WE PAID OUT WELL OVER 27-K in PHILA straight wagers faster than ANY BOOOK

LESS THAN 30-sec(s) after called we had it graded EASY WINNER for PHILA BETTOR(s)

YES LESS THAN 30-secs

see EOG post to confirm

[Mudcat]

appears SBR does?

10/11/2005 05:05 PM
SBR Bill Dozer reports: SBRforum poster AK reports that bet33 (SBR rating F) is a new venture from known sportsbook stiff, Robbie Mcphail. SBR has confirmed this to be true. Robbie, formerly the owner of ApexSportsbook (SBR rating F-), is introducing himself as the General Manager of bet33 and is now using the name Zach. Players should steer clear of any sportsbook that is using the services of this scam artist.

Well, you gave me a chuckle with that blast from the past. I can just imagine the dealings between AK and Robbie - who are peas in a pod - that ended up at that point.

SBR has also banned AK from this forum a few times for shilling and scamming. There have been a few incidents. At one point he was going around to books presenting himself as an SBR employee trying to weasel special deals.

This is not someone whose word proves anything.

[FIRST CLASS]

Mike has been nothing short of awesome to me. Paid me $4700 bucks in 3 installents over 4 days and never charged a dime......THEN said i had a 20% bonus waiting for me if i decide to come back. Sent 1500 and got a free 3 hundy , but did end up losing it. And once again he said come on back and he hook me up with 20% bonus anytime. Dont believe the shit you read from a one post wonder fellas. We all know better. BFC is a must out with their lines on several games per week being much different than other shops. Certainly not a cookie cutter operation.


NBA starts tomorrow boys.....gl

THX NBA

& realize this is JUST 1 client getting paid


WHY would this other Idiot NOT provide acct info or screen-shots...........anyway, i'm done worrying about in just wanna state that the man NEVER spoke to me or Chuck Re: a "cash---out" . . . .


Michael

[FIRST CLASS]

MUD

I'm not asking ANYONE to say great things about "US"

Just asking them NOT to post BS Lies & let time tell if we actually pay & run decent shop, we had unreal amount of Props, alt run lines, qtr lines etc etc etc & as NBA Pointed out we run lines way Different than anyone else EXAMPLE TULSA -25.5 yesterday when line was -23 -23.5