[jjgold]

There are approx 5 solid companies out there that have programs to use for Betfair

Its basically trading software that links up to your BetFair account

Auto betting, Auto Dutching, Etc

Do you use any of them and are they useful??

All are allowed by Betfair

[firedawg]

jj is a offshore legend.......... just plays the part of the sbr muppet

[minet123]

Dont ask me sponsey
Well now you will have to search my old post for the answer or just go over to PL and do the search

[flyingillini]

I love playing at Betfair, they offer great lines for Israeli Soccer...

[Hareeba!]

No. I don't use any betting software.

I'm not a trader and in any event Aussies can't bet live on line whether with or without a software tool.

[chance]

They actually actively push various betting assist tools.

[davidchong]

yes JJ, i use one...

I cant bet without a software at BF....

[jjgold]

Yeh strange Betfair wants you to use it, I guess they want all the volume they can get

[vitalyo]

Yeh strange Betfair wants you to use it, I guess they want all the volume they can get

All right jj you are doing much better

[wtf]

Yeh strange Betfair wants you to use it, I guess they want all the volume they can get

its a fuckin exchange you tool, why do they care if you win or lose

[chachi]

Betacular is quite useful on Android devices ...

For PCs, Betfair Rapid is sufficient for non-heavy use but Geeks Toy is IMO best of the free ones ...

[Gee]

Yes, used them all. Its use is limited in Australia as you cannot trade live.

Marketfeeder Pro is the most versatile.

They are all really designed for autobetting on horse racing systems based on the price or autotrading, which I know nothing about. There is definitely some money to be made if you are patient.

[barcelonafc]

geeks toy is the best in my opinion

[aca]

I use my home made excel spreadsheet! It's manual and slow but It's safe!

[jjgold]

Thanks men

They seem to be auto profit type programs but you need a lot of cash and high liquid markets

[Chopsticks]

You probably already know this, but make sure that whatever software you use that it does not exceed the amount of data requests allowed. If you are willing to use just about any software you may find that you have been charged fees by Betfair because of the excessive data use.

If using betfair rapid or geekstoy I do not think that you will have this problem.

[chachi]

Thanks men
They seem to be auto profit type programs but you need a lot of cash and high liquid markets

Indeed JJ ...

[jjgold]

If you have like 10k in your betfair account and run these programs I say you can make like $50 a day easy free money but you have to play all horse meets in UK, some usa ones, soccer matches and tennis

It seems like stealing but like i said very low guaranteed profits unless your really good at the game and know how some markets will move

[chachi]

Yeah I average a few hundred a week in trading profits, albeit less in the summer when there's no football/soccer to capitalize upon.

BTW JJ - I had €400 on Murray to win 3-0 at evens today ... why do you think set betting is scary/to be avoided ?

[Dr.Gonzo]

If you have like 10k in your betfair account and run these programs I say you can make like $50 a day easy free money but you have to play all horse meets in UK, some usa ones, soccer matches and tennis

It seems like stealing but like i said very low guaranteed profits unless your really good at the game and know how some markets will move

A sharp like you would know this low POT bot is good because you can avoid the premium tax with it.

[jjgold]

This software looks like wall street trading software

Charts, point and click fills
Best number, etc

[brad89]

No. I don't use any betting software. I'm not a trader and in any event Aussies can't bet live on line whether with or without a software tool.

Yes we can

[Sawyer]

Geek's Toy is best.

A betting program/software is a must for every serious trader (or in-play bettor)

[jjgold]

I know UK players must submit documents to betfair to get an Australiam Wallet and bet on Aussie sports now I do not know if that is same thing if you live in Australia

[Hareeba!]

Yes we can

only on racing, not on sports

[Hareeba!]

I know UK players must submit documents to betfair to get an Australiam Wallet and bet on Aussie sports now I do not know if that is same thing if you live in Australia

like with every other betting agency in the country Australians are required by law to satisfy minimum ID verification with Betfair

[jjgold]

The paid software is much better than the free stuff like Geek

Geek is not user friendly

[brad89]

only on racing, not on sports

No, I mean on sports too. I know many people who place live bets on betfair. I don't do it myself though.

[Hareeba!]

No, I mean on sports too. I know many people who place live bets on betfair. I don't do it myself though.

It's illegal. And when Betfair discover them their accounts are gone forever.

[brad89]

Betfair asked one of them (the one who has been doing it for the longest, by far) about it and that was it, he still does it. Obviously he didn't tell the truth. I don't think any of the others have been questioned about it yet.

I almost never use my Betfair account at all, have very little interest in live betting either.

[Hareeba!]

Betfair asked one of them (the one who has been doing it for the longest, by far) about it and that was it, he still does it. Obviously he didn't tell the truth. I don't think any of the others have been questioned about it yet.

I almost never use my Betfair account at all, have very little interest in live betting either.

So what do you bet on that Betfair wouldn't give you odds at least competitive with wherever you do bet ?

[chachi]

To be fair Hareeba, if one is not betting thousands and thousands a week, the lines at SBO, Canbet, 12Bet/Dafa, Pinnacle and a couple Aussie books will give payouts near or same as BF often, considering someone not using it often would pay the full 5% whack ...

[wtf]

To be fair Hareeba, if one is not betting thousands and thousands a week, the lines at SBO, Canbet, 12Bet/Dafa, Pinnacle and a couple Aussie books will give payouts near or same as BF often, considering someone not using it often would pay the full 5% whack ...

not on horses, not even close

[chachi]

Horses in isolation of course not, but football NRL and such yes ... mea culpa for not clarifying that remark

[Hareeba!]

To be fair Hareeba, if one is not betting thousands and thousands a week, the lines at SBO, Canbet, 12Bet/Dafa, Pinnacle and a couple Aussie books will give payouts near or same as BF often, considering someone not using it often would pay the full 5% whack ...

you may be close to correct for those who don't know how to get the best out of an exchange

but I do shop keenly for best odds and the fact that I do more turnover at Betfair than any of the other books is testament to the fact that you can get best odds there more than a lot of posters on this forum seem to believe

I think most never consider posting an offer

obviously the more you turnover the better your effective odds due to lower commissions

also it depends to some extent on the sports you bet

Betfair is about as good as you can get for racing so a reasonable amount of my turnover is attributable to that.

Canbet? lol ... wouldn't touch them even if they did allow me to bet more than $20!
Most of the Aussie books (TAB aside) won't let you on for a great deal either unless it is a major event and same goes for SBO aside from soccer.