[ms61853]

That's what they said. And they were right! Just not what they thought, though.

http://www.theneweditor.com/index.ph...eft-Works.html

[Justin7]

Did you see the "war tribunal"s latest ploy? They couldn't convince a jury that Obama's driver was a serious threat. After getting sentenced to a time less than he's been held, the U.S. 1. wants the jury to reconvene to give him a longer sentence, and 2. says they can just hold him indefinitely as an enemy combatant, which they don't have to prove.

The terrorists are winning the "war on terror" not through killing or planning, but through eroding our civil rights.

[ms61853]

Originally Posted by Justin7

Did you see the "war tribunal"s latest ploy? They couldn't convince a jury that Obama's driver was a serious threat. After getting sentenced to a time less than he's been held, the U.S. 1. wants the jury to reconvene to give him a longer sentence, and 2. says they can just hold him indefinitely as an enemy combatant, which they don't have to prove.

The terrorists are winning the "war on terror" not through killing or planning, but through eroding our civil rights.

Freudian slip?

The man is a terrorist.

[Justin7]

Heh. Do you have any proof that our future president is a terrorist? Or are you just trying to mislead the gullible?

[ms61853]

Originally Posted by Justin7

Heh. Do you have any proof that our future president is a terrorist? Or are you just trying to mislead the gullible?

The man I was referring too was Osama's driver. Obama's driver may be one, too; I don't know.

I doubt Obama himself has ever committed any actual terrorist acts. He wouldn't have the guts. He just consorts with terrorists.

[daggerkobe]

Nice pick on Florida State last night.... douchebag.

Stick to your day job..... posting irreverent BLOGS and delivering pizzas to blacks that don't tip.

[picantel]

Originally Posted by Justin7

Heh. Do you have any proof that our future president is a terrorist? Or are you just trying to mislead the gullible?

He is a republican. They do not deal with the truth.

[daggerkobe]

Yeah, he just calls him a terrorist cause of his name. Can you be any more bigoted?

I mean you want a real terrorist look no further than Reagan, Bush Sr & Jr... they're responsible for killing more Iraqis than even Saddam himself!

[ms61853]

Originally Posted by daggerkobe

Nice pick on Florida State last night.... douchebag.

I lost my ass on that game, but it was a good pick that just didn't work out. I'd take the same pick again. Thought I had a chance to pull it out at the end after NC St eff up, but didn't happen.

[daggerkobe]

I lost my ass on that game


Don't worry, I'm sure you'll make enough in tips today to cover the $17.50 you lost.

[Justin7]

Originally Posted by ms61853

The man I was referring too was Osama's driver. Obama's driver may be one, too; I don't know.

I doubt Obama himself has ever committed any actual terrorist acts. He wouldn't have the guts. He just consorts with terrorists.

Apparently Osama Bin Laden's driver is not a full-blown terrorist. A jury looked at the evidence, and didn't convict him of what the government asked.

You state Obama consorts with terrorists. Are you implying that Obama is working with terrorists to undermine our country? Or are you simply repeating sound-bites that aren't relevant to anything?

If Bush sent a message to Bin Laden via 20 Cruise missiles, is that "consorting" also?

Consort: to associate; keep company: to consort with known criminals; to associate, join, or unite. (from Websters).

Give me facts. Where was Obama promoting terrorism?

[ms61853]

Originally Posted by Justin7

Apparently Osama Bin Laden's driver is not a full-blown terrorist. A jury looked at the evidence, and didn't convict him of what the government asked.

You state Obama consorts with terrorists. Are you implying that Obama is working with terrorists to undermine our country? Or are you simply repeating sound-bites that aren't relevant to anything?

If Bush sent a message to Bin Laden via 20 Cruise missiles, is that "consorting" also?

Consort: to associate; keep company: to consort with known criminals; to associate, join, or unite. (from Websters).

Give me facts. Where was Obama promoting terrorism?

He was convicted of supporting terrorism.

[Justin7]

Originally Posted by ms61853

He was convicted of supporting terrorism.

Barrack Obama? You're losing credibility fast.

[ms61853]

Originally Posted by Justin7

Barrack Obama? You're losing credibility fast.

No, of course not.

Obama just initiated his political career in the living room of one.

[Justin7]

Originally Posted by ms61853

No, of course not.

Obama just initiated his political career in the living room of one.

Fact check. I think this has been addressed and refuted.

[MonkeyF0cker]

People like ms are the reason this country is in such horrific shape. Those that attack one side with scare tactics and no factual basis while defending "their side" at all costs, no matter what abuses that side is responsible for or guilty of, are just as culpable as those who continue to infringe upon our freedoms and distribute our purse to their lobbyists and campaign contributors.

[potsie]

sorry wrong thread... lol

[ms61853]

Originally Posted by Justin7

Fact check. I think this has been addressed and refuted.

No, it hasn't.

Last night, Barack Obama denied launching his political career in the living room of William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn prior to his first run for the Illinois State Senate in 1995.

That denial must be based upon quibbling over the difference between a formal announcement at a Ramada Inn, September 19, 1995, and an “introduction” to prominent liberal Hyde Park democrats over coffee at Chez Ayers whose specific date is uncertain but which occurred around very much the same time.

The precise chronological order of Obama’s 1995 campaign events is obviously less important than the question of his association and long term relationship with terrorists and the nature of their crimes.

WorldNetDaily quotes an FBI informant:


While defenders of unrepentant Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers cling to the rationalization that he never killed anyone during a spree of bombings in the 1970s, his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, built and planted the bomb that killed a San Francisco police officer in 1970, an FBI report claimed. ...

While Ayers himself has never been implicated in a death among the high-profile bombings of the Capitol, the Pentagon and several other targets of the Weather Underground he served as a leader, it’s not true that there were no fatalities associated with the attacks.

On Feb. 16, 1970, Sgt. Brian V. McDonnell of the San Francisco Police Department was killed by shrapnel from an anti-personnel bomb planted on a window ledge at the force’s Park Station. The pipe bomb was filled with heavy metal staples and lead bullet projectiles. Another officer, Robert Fogarty, received serious wounds to his face and legs, and was partially blinded in the attack.

Dohrn, then living in a Weather Underground cell on a Sausalito, Calif., houseboat, has long been suspected of involvement in the bombing.

An FBI informant, Larry Grathwohl, who successfully penetrated the organization from the late summer of 1969 until April 1970, later testified to a U.S. Senate subcommittee that Ayers, then a high-ranking leader of the organization and a member of its Central Committee (but not then Dohrn’s husband), told him Dohrn constructed and planted the bomb.

Grathwohl testified that Ayers had told him specifically where the bomb was placed (on a window ledge) and what kind of shrapnel was put in it. Grathwohl said Ayers was emphatic, leading Grathwohl to believe Ayers either was present at some point during the operation or had heard about it from someone who was there. In a book about his experiences published in 1976, Grathwohl wrote that Ayers, who had recently attended a meeting of the group’s Central Committee, said Dohrn had planned the operation, made the bomb and placed it herself.

Grathwohl recounted in his report that Ayers complained to other Weather Underground operatives that they were not contributing enough to the bombing campaigns, pointing out that Dohrn built the bomb and planted it herself.

[Justin7]

You want to quibble because Obama came into contact with a bad guy? Did Obama know this guy was a bomber? Did he support bombing? Is that your implication?

Lots of good people meet lots of bad people in their lives. Good people are not influence by bad people.

How did this bad guy influence Obama? Did Obama start a bombing campaign because he met them? Did Obama join some secret terrorist organization because of this meeting?

If you have some meaningful analysis on why Obama is bad because of this, please share it. But saying "He launched his political career in a terrorist's living room" is not only inaccurate, but irrelevant.

Go one step further. Assume what you said is true (notwithstanding the total failure of proof on that point). Assume that in that hallowed living room, Obama decided he would be a politician. How does that make him less qualified?

By the way, don't take this personal. If a McCain basher was systematically misstating the GOP, I would cross-examine those posts as well.