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Old 10-15-2008, 01:38 AM   #1
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Default Any Good Books on Handicapping Basketball?

I'm very confident in my ability to cap college and pro football, baseball, and hockey. Not only big fans of all 4, but also very knowledgeable on them as well. I already feel like I'm a solid capper of all these (decent/break-even/slight profit), and know I'm going to get better as I get more experience in tuning my craft.

I've never been a basketball fan, and thus I don't know the first thing about capping it. I feel like I'm missing out on a goldmine, especially in college hoops. I'm not one to tail people; I'll definitely enjoy reading the write-ups around here for bball, but I want a head start.

Anyone know of any good books written on capping college and pro ball? At least to get me pointed in the right direction.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:10 AM   #2
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:18 AM   #3
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i use the lineup stats statfox platinium
rebounds,all that if im trying to pick a winner in ncaab the stats must pretty much give me an edge across the board in all catagories more so than anyother sport,always looking at injury sheet also

did well in ncaab last year in fact over 50% of this year winning were from ncaab 08-09/but it is diffrent every year always one that sticks out above the rest one year mlb,the next ncaab just works out that way
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:50 PM   #4
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No books are needed to fundamentally cap a sport so you can consistently win.
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Old 10-15-2008, 01:57 PM   #5
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Are you looking to create a model, usc? Or what peticular type of information are you looking to find?
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No books are needed to fundamentally cap a sport so you can consistently win.
I liked you better when you were a hotshot that picked bet big and tried to pick winners.

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Are you looking to create a model, usc? Or what peticular type of information are you looking to find?
I don't even know where to begin capping NBA. I know the rules of basketball and everything, but I don't know the first thing about offensive and defensive styles. Like, I know what a zone is or man to man or a triangle offense, but I couldn't tell you what is effective against what. I also know how important fouls are, but don't know how to handicap this.

I want to learn what I should be looking for and how to handicap things like offense VS. defense, fouls, home advantage, etc.
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Old 10-15-2008, 05:34 PM   #7
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Larry Seidel put out 2 books. Both are very good.
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Old 10-15-2008, 05:38 PM   #8
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I don't even know where to begin capping NBA. I know the rules of basketball and everything, but I don't know the first thing about offensive and defensive styles. Like, I know what a zone is or man to man or a triangle offense, but I couldn't tell you what is effective against what. I also know how important fouls are, but don't know how to handicap this.

I want to learn what I should be looking for and how to handicap things like offense VS. defense, fouls, home advantage, etc.
I may be wrong but i think the first part about handicapping any sport is having watched it for many years and knowing about the teams. Again i may be wrong but when i see a football game the obvious thing you see is , i no no Team A is better than team B then u begin to look into patterns and past match ups and the style of play, defense or offense a team plays, if i knew nothing about the sport handicapping it would be extremely hard for me, id suggest watching it for a few years first?
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USC Quite frankly I don't care if you like me or not. I said nothing to offend you whatsoever so if you have a beef pal thats your own problem.
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I may be wrong but i think the first part about handicapping any sport is having watched it for many years and knowing about the teams. Again i may be wrong but when i see a football game the obvious thing you see is , i no no Team A is better than team B then u begin to look into patterns and past match ups and the style of play, defense or offense a team plays, if i knew nothing about the sport handicapping it would be extremely hard for me, id suggest watching it for a few years first?
i suggest not watching it at all
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Watching is the only way to handicap but the problem is no way to watch all the games. The best cappers are guys that are well read on teams and well watched. If you just study your local teams in all sports and bet them without emotions involved you can beat them.
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I may be wrong but i think the first part about handicapping any sport is having watched it for many years and knowing about the teams.
I keep up with the standings, I know who's good and who's bad. If sports betting were as easy as betting on the better team, everyone would be rich. Yes, I need to watch more, but I'd like to know what to look for while I'm watching instead of watching and missing the subtleties.

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USC Quite frankly I don't care if you like me or not. I said nothing to offend you whatsoever so if you have a beef pal thats your own problem.
Pat, it seems you have a very good grasp on money management and value and odds, etc. I respect that. It is just getting tiring to see you hijack every single thread and spew all this stuff. We get it, money management is important. We get it, line shopping and getting the best line is important. We get it. You don't need to preach in every single thread on the entire board and call us all morons for not understanding like you do. I don't dislike you, I am just tired of reading the same thing in every thread.
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Er, isn't this the guy who said never to bet more than 1/1000th of your bankroll?
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Er, isn't this the guy who said never to bet more than 1/1000th of your bankroll?
I'm trying to be nice.
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I actually do 1/200th of my BR.
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I actually do 1/200th of my BR.
Well glad to see you've lightened up on that rule a bit.
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I may be wrong but i think the first part about handicapping any sport is having watched it for many years and knowing about the teams. Again i may be wrong but when i see a football game the obvious thing you see is , i no no Team A is better than team B then u begin to look into patterns and past match ups and the style of play, defense or offense a team plays, if i knew nothing about the sport handicapping it would be extremely hard for me, id suggest watching it for a few years first?
Watched b-ball for many years, agree 110% with UTNDE!!!
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Old 11-20-2008, 12:33 PM   #20
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Dave, my advice would just be to learn by doing, but that's probably a bigger reflection of my personal style than anything. I'd follow JJ's advice and dedicate some time to really understanding the Lakers and the Clippers. By watching their games you'll quickly get a handle on the dynamics of the Western Conference, and that would be a reasonable goal for you this season. I'm sure you read the L.A. Times, just pay attention to the hoops section and play it by ear. You might learn a ton from books, but your most important lessons will be the mistakes you make picking the actual games.
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