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Old 10-03-08, 04:51 PM   #1
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i posted a thread 2 days ago about blackjack dealers that hate loosing, i just recently been fascinated with the game going 4-0 at the real life casino my last 4 trips. I play slightly different than the book actually states and i think it plays more to my advantage. anyways not here to brag or boost but i was looking for a alternative method to driving 50 miles to the casino once a week. when i was younger i played online blackjack and would always loose so i was under the impression that it was pretty well rigged, now that i feel im way more knowledgeable of the game i wanted to give it a second shot


i had 6 dollars remaining in my casino portion of my 5 dimes account after a bad stint ta poker a few weeks ago, in 20 minutes i was able to turn this into 125 dollars so i quit because good things dont last. Then last night i decided to put that play money to work on credit wagering and was able to turn 200 into 485 in about 35 minutes. I tihnk playing basic strategy and altering it a bit you can actually beat the house, not to mention the fact that in online blackjack you can surrender your hand at any point , which in my opinion takes away half of whatever the house edge might be. Ive read many forums and article about how online blackjack is rigged and how the software developers can guarantee the house to win a certain amount after so many hands, does anyone no which places i should stay away from? im thinking of going over to a actual casino site and not something off of a sports book any ideas?

6-0 now i think ill ride this til it dies
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i posted a thread 2 days ago about blackjack dealers that hate loosing, i just recently been fascinated with the game going 4-0 at the real life casino my last 4 trips. I play slightly different than the book actually states and i think it plays more to my advantage. anyways not here to brag or boost but i was looking for a alternative method to driving 50 miles to the casino once a week. when i was younger i played online blackjack and would always loose so i was under the impression that it was pretty well rigged, now that i feel im way more knowledgeable of the game i wanted to give it a second shot


i had 6 dollars remaining in my casino portion of my 5 dimes account after a bad stint ta poker a few weeks ago, in 20 minutes i was able to turn this into 125 dollars so i quit because good things dont last. Then last night i decided to put that play money to work on credit wagering and was able to turn 200 into 485 in about 35 minutes. I tihnk playing basic strategy and altering it a bit you can actually beat the house, not to mention the fact that in online blackjack you can surrender your hand at any point , which in my opinion takes away half of whatever the house edge might be. Ive read many forums and article about how online blackjack is rigged and how the software developers can guarantee the house to win a certain amount after so many hands, does anyone no which places i should stay away from? im thinking of going over to a actual casino site and not something off of a sports book any ideas?

6-0 now i think ill ride this til it dies
What do you mean 4-0 or 6-0? You won 4 hands out of 4 or you played 4 sessions and won all 4? Listen, I play let it ride in the dgs casino and I feel that I have a crack addiction. I have hit a royal flush and many, many straight flushes. You won't beat the online casinos by changing your bets. Listen, take my advice. Either drive to the land based casino or just bet the money on a game. There will come a point when you don't even want to drive to it. Just bet the games instead. Trust me, in a year you could make a post about how you are now 17-55 where as now you are 6-0 or whatever.
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Old 10-03-08, 05:00 PM   #4
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Ive own my last 6 session for about 7x my original buy in from the beginning
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Ive own my last 6 session for about 7x my original buy in from the beginning
Let me ask you a question. In the next 10 sessions you play what realistic # do you see yourself with? I've heard some stuff w/ the dgs casinos where the system actually dishes out hands based on your account. It recognizes you. Again, I just heard it and don't know if it is true. A casino worker from Bookmaker said this. I told him when the hands are slow I log out and log back in with the intent to mix things up. He said it doesn't matter at all, it recognizes you.
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Old 10-03-08, 05:09 PM   #6
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realistically i could loose all 10 for all i no, the odds arnt necessarily in your favor but i think the book on blackjack is full of shit, i rarely follow that, everyone around me is busting left and right and im usually winning. i bet sports alot basically for my living, blackjack isnt anything id go pro with obviously im taking like 200 bucks when i go nothing big, just something for fun to try and win some money. the real money is in sports if your good enough, im just off a rough spell in sports and the last week in blackjack has put me way ahead of what ive lost.
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Old 10-03-08, 05:22 PM   #7
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Yeah, I play BJ at at betjamaica. I had 120 turned it into 900 another time I had 200 turned it into 700. Thought I had a system based on losing 55% of the time, I could make the 45% I win higher stakes. Mix up 1-3 hand decks, mix up my strategy. My system works. The trouble is - the system fails. I ended up losing over 2000 on black crack in the long run. You start to think the computer can not get 19,20,21 more than 5 times in a row - right? Wrong. Try 8 times in a row which wiped me out.
I just now played three hands, high stake hands after losing a few dollar hands in a row- it is my turn to win based on odds Right? The deal looked good I had two 20's and a 19 off the deal, computer showing a 3 - looks good. They flip a 2 Hit 3,4,9 = 21 - I lose.

So good luck with your system lasting.
The best I can say to anyone - is remember the cpu CAN get 20-21 10 times in a row - they have an unlimited deck - if you win a few hundred or a few thousand dollars - realize you are very lucky - you did not learn how to 'beat the system'.
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Old 10-03-08, 05:26 PM   #8
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So playing basic strategy (House edge of around 2% in a game with good rules for the player) and "altering it a bit" (which lowers your odds) can make you beat the house?

You seriously have no idea how ridiculous this is.

Quit while you are ahead for the love of God.
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Old 10-03-08, 10:42 PM   #9
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Playing bj online is a losing proposition.
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Old 10-03-08, 10:46 PM   #10
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I dont care what strategy you use to play, the fact that you are ahead after every session is pure luck. Quit while you are ahead.
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Old 10-03-08, 10:47 PM   #11
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Old 10-03-08, 11:00 PM   #12
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Old 10-03-08, 11:11 PM   #13
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Beating slots or Online BJ Which one has better ev?
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Old 10-03-08, 11:14 PM   #14
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Slots but not by much pending the ratio for the machine and it's location.
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Old 10-03-08, 11:33 PM   #15
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I've literally made thousands off blackjack online bonus whoring. But the only way I know of to turn the odds in your favor is with a bonus. If you win without a bonus it's just gambling and getting lucky.

Try this site if you want to learn about blackjack, and odds in all casino games.

http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack


To all the casino haters, house edge at most online casinos for blackjack is about .48% compare that to the 4.55% house edge at -110 in sports.
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Old 10-04-08, 12:12 AM   #16
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make that 7-0 i had a 47 minute blackjack session tonight 200 to 365( started to loose alot so i quit)
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make that 7-0 i had a 47 minute blackjack session tonight 200 to 365( started to loose alot so i quit)
Enjoy it while it lasts man, never had that good of a run with cards but i have with sports and its nice but the fall hurts pretty bad too.
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Old 10-04-08, 02:50 AM   #18
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You will lose in real life and you will definitely lose online (that is a guaranteed lock).....quit while you're ahead.
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Old 10-04-08, 07:55 PM   #19
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8-0 , 200 to 250, this was a pretty lnog session about a hour i stayed even to +150 most of the entire sessions, i had 7 blackajcks dealer 2. not here to brag ill stop osting amounts , but ill keep posting on here until i loose a session, not wining anything big, keeping wagers under 15 to stay under radar
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Old 10-04-08, 09:57 PM   #20
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Pointless. It's a game with no skill element, where the scales are tilted against you.

Why would anyone play a game where you know you'll lose on average? That's just daft.
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Old 10-04-08, 11:47 PM   #21
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you going to tell that to every baseball player then. even the best hitters fail 70% of the time, should they jsut quit since the odds are against them, this point is idiotic, blackjack containing no skill, alright G, maybe thats why 80% of you feel you cant win, if 80% of you losoe your ass someone is winning
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Old 10-05-08, 12:02 AM   #22
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****, if you're winning keep playing. Maybe you found a glitch in the software.

I wouldn't quit your day job just yet. You're likely to find Blackjack is a very streaky game, and clueless players often win. For a while.
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Old 10-05-08, 12:08 AM   #23
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reno i have a day job and ill never get rid of it, beting and other types of gambling can be done on the side, i think when its your only means of income its very hard to do the same thing, but yea i dont bleeive i can make a living at blackajck obviously but i find it halarious for people to sit here and say tnigs such as you will never win ever, jsut halarious to me, but im due for a big loss but im up a good 1800 and i play sessions of 200 online so id have to start loosig like crazy to loose profit,
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Old 10-05-08, 02:54 PM   #24
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Dude, you will always lost blackjack over time.....it's just when the bad luck will catch up with you. Why bet on plastic cards, when you can bet on human beings or horses...
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We're talking about a game where the ideal play in every situation is known. There's zero skill in following a chart.

If you think there are other factors that mean you should change stake, or play differently, then you're essentially accusing the site of cheating.

Think about it: if the site is cheating, how can you win?
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Old 10-06-08, 01:08 AM   #27
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session 9, 9-0
1 minute 2 hands +50
this was just total luck after 2 hands but in my online sessions ill take it since im just trying to make a buck

this will be my last post here if anyone( with all the bashing i doubt anyone does) but ill continue to place session scores on my blog on mysbr if anyone wants to keep track of a person playing a game that obviously cant be beaten( +1800 in 2 weeks says otherwise)
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any place online i can read this book thats in your avatar??

looks like it would be a good read
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Old 10-06-08, 01:59 AM   #29
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that book is called how the blackjack book is in odds of the casino and if u hit a on 16 vs a dealer 7 like the book says i call you a idiot by Ice Cube
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Old 10-06-08, 01:59 AM   #30
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not important to know every 2 hands. --but let us know after the next500.

this shouldn't take more than a couple hours
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its about bj

nevermind not intrested
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Old 10-06-08, 02:03 AM   #32
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if you stand on 16 against 7 thats a big mistake. The only hope is you're up against poorly designed software to cheat a basic strategy player. Chances slim
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Old 10-06-08, 02:07 AM   #33
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if you stand on 16 against 7 thats a big mistake. The only hope is you're up against poorly designed software to cheat a basic strategy player. Chances slim
as to this Ive probably played 2,000 hands in the last 3 weeks most land based about 200 hands online and Ive had much more success staying, hitting that 16 ill bust about 70% of the time, when staying anything but a face or ace allows dealer to re hit and ill usually win 50% of the time,
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http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...le-capper.html

you guys forget, this is the guy that's never lost 6 plays in a row (though he lost 6 of 7 on his sbr spreadsheet)

obviously god loves you & wants you to shine, so bet on
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Old 10-06-08, 02:24 AM   #35
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There are many legit reasons to play negative expectation games. Many wannabe pros tend to underestimate the volatility of games. I don't know how new you are to gambling. People can and do win considerable sums doing just that. But simply playing a game poorly decreases your chances of being a winner.
Probabilities of whether or not you should hit certain hands versus a given dealer up card have long since been calculated. You haven't discovered America here.
Standing on 16against 7 is the most common and costly rookie mistake. You'd be much better off standing against a 10.
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