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    Default SBG GLOBAL affilates Managers Steeling Money of members

    SBG GLOBAL is not paying any more payment to his affilated members work.if you join them then it is 100% chance you will not get your commison.

    or it is possible they will also steel money of your refferd players
    1. carlos bonilla( Break trust of affilated member)
    marcketing manager
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    2.Jason Viscosi( No. 1 Liar in Costa Rica)
    Project Manager
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    nice English !

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    didn't Carlos Bonilla play 3rd base for the Cubs?

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    I'm not positive I understand. I think it means that an SBG affiliate is not getting what he thinks he deserves.

    Or to put it another way, someone who has been trying to suck players into a book with a long, well-publicized history of scams, is now surprised and upset to find that he is being scammed by that book.

    Leave it with me. It's going to take me some time to work up some sympathy.

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    i think SBG GLOBAL is going to close his business very soon
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    they have not money now to give players on win and affilated commison

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    did they spend all their money on hookers and blow?

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    i think Company have not good worker Like Carlos and his Boss Jason Viscosi,they are giving loss to company by bad marcketing and steel players money too

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    are they still in business?

    I thought we all knew they were thieves a long time ago?
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    "You lie with dogs, your going to get fleas." You wont be the first or the last employee or customer that will get screwed by these scumbags! Sorry you got taken for a ride buddy.

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    yes they are inviting people to deposits and if you win and try to withdrawthen they will tell you we have close business and steeling money.i think they will close them business in next 1 or 2 month mostly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug View Post
    nice English !
    The guy is obviously tico Dougie, give the guy a break, english isnt his first language.

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    yes the matter is just they steeling affilate members money after get players

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBGGLOBAL View Post
    yes the matter is just they steeling affilate members money after get players
    Im tico ... but fvk this ... use a fvking grammar book

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    My gf is having trouble withdrawing $1400 form sbgglobal , it is allmost 2 weeks now since she put in the withdrawal request is this normall for sbg to delay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    My gf is having trouble withdrawing $1400 form sbgglobal , it is allmost 2 weeks now since she put in the withdrawal request is this normall for sbg to delay?
    Pretty much. She will have to keep calling them.

    As far as the affiliate or promoting them for a fee goes, the promoter has to know this has always been a scambook. Does one really think that a book that cheats players will play straight with their affiliates? The lesson is if you promote crap you will reap what you sow; crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jigger View Post
    My gf is having trouble withdrawing $1400 form sbgglobal , it is allmost 2 weeks now since she put in the withdrawal request is this normall for sbg to delay?


    I hate to say it, but it is normal for lots of books these days. Even some of SBR's "A" books. 2 weeks is no longer considered a big deal.

    FWIW I have had contacts that have gotten paid out just fine by SBG in the last few months. It doesn't happen as fast as you might want, but it gets done (at least it did for them).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudcat View Post
    I hate to say it, but it is normal for lots of books these days. Even some of SBR's "A" books. 2 weeks is no longer considered a big deal.

    FWIW I have had contacts that have gotten paid out just fine by SBG in the last few months. It doesn't happen as fast as you might want, but it gets done (at least it did for them).
    Any of these guys get paid 10k or more?

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    Would be nice to see sbr take a stance on affiliate issues however they do not. "As long as sbr checks are clearing it appears to be ok".

    I recommend you contact gpwa and cap

    They get things done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK View Post
    Would be nice to see sbr take a stance on affiliate issues however they do not. "As long as sbr checks are clearing it appears to be ok".

    I recommend you contact gpwa and cap

    They get things done.
    Thats pretty much true. SBR is a players site not a vendors site and advertisers and affiliates are vendors of sportsbooks.

    Vendors in the real world are no different than online vendors. In the real world you would never extend advertising credit to a company that has a history of scamming. When affiliates put a banner up for a book like SBG they are basically extending credit for their advertising. That's a bad business decision. The lesson is don't promote books that have a history of stiffing players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    Thats pretty much true. SBR is a players site not a vendors site and advertisers and affiliates are vendors of sportsbooks.

    Vendors in the real world are no different than online vendors. In the real world you would never extend advertising credit to a company that has a history of scamming. When affiliates put a banner up for a book like SBG they are basically extending credit for their advertising. That's a bad business decision. The lesson is don't promote books that have a history of stiffing players.
    Agree, no webmaster should promote a book thats poor to its players. However several past "A" books and current B books should be held in some sort of manner. That's why I recommend anyone with a "vendor" complaint to seek assistance from gpwa or cap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK View Post
    Would be nice to see sbr take a stance on affiliate issues however they do not. "As long as sbr checks are clearing it appears to be ok".

    I recommend you contact gpwa and cap

    They get things done.
    Alright, I'll bite.

    What is GPWA or CAP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Any of these guys get paid 10k or more?
    One did for sure but it was Moneybookers. It was over 10K altogether but it would be broken into multiple payouts at SBG.

    The others I would have to go back and ask for more details.

    I was PMing with one guy here who was saying he got a sizable Moneybookers payout from SBG. That was a little further back in time. Around October/November, I'd guess. I wouldn't be surprised if it was 10K.

    He posts semi-regularly in the Players Talk forum so maybe he'll see this and pipe up. I suppose I could PM you his handle if you want to follow up and ask him.

    The other was an American so it wouldn't have been Moneybookers. It was recent though. December. I don't recall the $$$ involved nor the payout method in that one.

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    You are complaining because you were promoting a book that is known for regularly robbing winners with accounts over 10K and now they have stiffed you?

    Well, if you were promoting these crooks, I hope they stiffed you for a lot of money and they never pay you.

    And I hope that they do the same thing to you that they did to me when I caused trouble for them after they stole $34,000 from my account and posted lies about me. Which is they start calling your house threatening you.

    You won't get any sympathy here for doing business with SBG (deposit only book) Global.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Alright, I'll bite.

    What is GPWA or CAP?
    Gambling Portal Webmasters Association and Casino Affiliate Programs. There responsibility is to weed out the good sportsbooks, casinos, and poker rooms on the net based on a "vendor factor"

    This is usually important as SBRJohn said.. "If they are slow/no paying there vendors then they are likely to slow/no pay there players."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK View Post
    Gambling Portal Webmasters Association and Casino Affiliate Programs. There responsibility is to weed out the good sportsbooks, casinos, and poker rooms on the net based on a "vendor factor"

    This is usually important as SBRJohn said.. "If they are slow/no paying there vendors then they are likely to slow/no pay there players."
    I think in SBG Global's case, "uh, do ya think?"

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    Agreed, however You or I do not know the situation with this guy.

    Possibly he was just a gambler who decided to make some of his losses back and had no idea how rogue they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Any of these guys get paid 10k or more?
    Certainly not meant as an endorsement of SBG (I'm familiar with most of the complaints over the years), but I've been taking out $2,500 per week for the past 4 weeks without a problem, after getting a decent reload bonus from them and winning a few thousand on top of that.

    I usually play there for football, and then withdraw until the next football season ... try to get out before Super Bowl, usually draw down if my balance hits low 5-figures, the usual precautions you'd take when playing at a lower-tier book.
    Last edited by Halifax; 01-09-09 at 11:34 PM.

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    SBG has many problems.

    1. There ML odds are always against the players, it does not matter which side you choose.
    2. They wait until after 9am EST and sometimes later to post NCAA Basketball and NCAA Football lines.
    3. They have inferior web site software. Many issues with Pending bets showing up.
    4. There customer service sucks!
    5. There normal odds are also inferior to most sports books. They change lines quickly, there were so many times I was about to place a bet and WHAM! the line changed. Then they make you go back and figure out which bet had the problem.

    Stay away from SBG Global.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halifax View Post
    Certainly not meant as an endorsement of SBG . . .

    I'd also like to make that clear of my posts in this thread. I am just doing what I always do: reporting the news. It's true that some players have had successful payouts recently.

    But even at times when SBG is screwing people over, there are still some people getting payouts. A few payouts doesn't necessarily mean all clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ View Post
    SBG has many problems.

    1. There ML odds are always against the players, it does not matter which side you choose.
    2. They wait until after 9am EST and sometimes later to post NCAA Basketball and NCAA Football lines.
    3. They have inferior web site software. Many issues with Pending bets showing up.
    4. There customer service sucks!
    5. There normal odds are also inferior to most sports books. They change lines quickly, there were so many times I was about to place a bet and WHAM! the line changed. Then they make you go back and figure out which bet had the problem.

    Stay away from SBG Global.
    You sort of forgot to mention that many, many players who won over $9,000 had their accounts stolen for made up reasons that were complete lies. And when SBR tried to mediate some of these issues they were told in no uncertain terms to go **** off. And players who made trouble for SBG over stealing their accounts where threatened with physical violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Any of these guys get paid 10k or more?
    Who would ever allow there balance to get that large there. As soon as I hit 2K with them I get my money out at Bet Royal which is owned by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20Four7 View Post
    Who would ever allow there balance to get that large there. As soon as I hit 2K with them I get my money out at Bet Royal which is owned by them.
    People who were not aware of their reputation and were not aware of sites like SBR. That was my case when they robbed me. Which is why I started looking for a site like SBR.

    You can't assume that everyone that signs up to an offshore book knows all about the sports book review community.

    Also, I had no idea that $34K was a "lot" of money, I always thought I was a small bettor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20Four7 View Post
    Who would ever allow there balance to get that large there. As soon as I hit 2K with them I get my money out at Bet Royal which is owned by them.

    Once again, not meaning to endorse, but to answer the question:

    Yes there are players who simply don't know the reputation so they end up in a dangerous situation. But setting that aside . . .

    Some informed players will do it eyes-wide-open. It is a typical risk/reward play.

    At times SBG gives out 30%+ cash bonuses on certain sized deposits. There is a rollover associated with it. Sometimes players will start off hot and the balance will get high and it can't be touched mid-rollover.

    Simple as that.

    There is a risk as curious points out. On the other hand there are people like me who have played at SBG/Royal on and off for 5 years with never a problem. The bonus is significant in some people's eyes. Like 30% on a $5000 deposit is $1500. All these factors should be weighed. It is a gamble.

    Like any gamble, one shouldn't risk more than they can afford to lose.

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