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Old 09-19-2008, 11:35 AM   #1
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Question A few reasons not to vote for Obama, from donedem.com

And you folks still wanna vote for this guy.

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Obama Lacks Sound Policy

* Pledged to dismantle our national defense systems, including development of future defense technologies, effectively disarming America and leaving us vulnerable to attack.
* Health care proposal will NOT create universal health care, and thus will only be more wasteful government spending accomplishing nothing
* Claims to have no lobbyist ties, but changed his nuclear regulation bill to favor nuclear companies under pressure from his money men at Exelon
* Claims to not accept oil money, but in fact has major money bundlers who are oil executives
* Claims to have no lobbyist ties, but several registered lobbyists have raised over a million dollars for his campaign, sometimes having their wives write the check to conceal his ties to them
* Voted against his own economic package
* Of McCain, Clinton, and Obama, only Obama backed the Bush-Cheney energy bill that put taxpayer money in oil companies’ pockets and helped gas prices skyrocket, yet he calls Clinton “Bush-lite” and McCain “a third Bush term”?
* Claimed he would not run for President until he had the requisite experience
* Threatened to bomb our crucial ally Pakistan without permission
* In 2002, voted to defund a Chicago social work office, when criticized by public claimed he pushed the wrong button
* In 1997, voted against an election reform bill, later claimed he pushed the wrong button
* In 2000, voted against a ban on human cloning, later claimed he pushed the wrong button
* In 2000, voted for a gambling measure opposed by church groups, when criticized claimed he pushed the wrong button
* Lies, claiming to be anti-war because he gave a speech in 2002 when he was not yet a Senator, but once in the Senate voted to extend the war more than five times
* Lies, claims he will withdraw troops, when in fact he has no plans to really do so as his campaign has indicated conditions on the ground will dictate troop levels
* Claims to be against NAFTA, caught telling Canada he was for NAFTA, when caught lied about it
* Said age-appropriate sex-ed was okay for kindergarten



Obama Lacks Judgment

* Accepted credit for dozens of bills he did not write in Illinois legislature
* Plaigiarized “Just Words” speech from Massachusetts governor
* Plaigiarized nomination acceptance speech from Mario Cumo
* Borrowed “Fired Up, Ready to Go” slogan from another politcian
* Lifted “Yes, we can” slogan from Hispanic farm workers
* Does not believe the radical Iranian Revolutionary Guard is a terrorist organization
* Pledged to sit down with state sponsors of terrorism without preconditions in his first year as President
* Refused to wear a flag pin for elitist, silly reasons
* As Chairman of the Senate Europe and NATO subcommittee, irresponsibly failed to hold a single hearing, claiming he was too busy running for President
* Supporter and cousin of Raila Odinga, a radical Kenyan socialist
* Longtime friend and business associate of Tony Rezko, convicted criminal, slumlord, political crook
* Longtime friend and political associate of Bill Ayers, an unrepentant domestic terrorist and murderer
* Spiritually mentored for many years by left-wing, anti-American priest Father Michael Pfleger; when Pfleger grotesquely attacked Hillary McCain defended her by name, Obama did not
* Allowed himself to be spiritually mentored by Rev. Jeremiah Wright for twenty years, and allowed Wright to pastor his children
* Supported a live-birth abortion measure that even NARAL Pro-Choice America opposed
* Thinks regular folks cling to guns and gods because they’re bitter about the economy

Obama Lacks Character

* Lied, claiming he’s never been Muslim; he studied the Koran as a child at an Islamic school in Indonesia, where he was registered as a Muslim, Barry Soetoro, taking his stepfather’s name
* Lied, said he barely knew Rezko, when in fact he represented Rezko, used Rezko to get a sweetheart deal on his mansion, and tapped Rezko to serve as a major fundraiser for his political career
* Lied, said Rezko only donated $50,000 to him; under pressure later revealed Rezko raised more than twice that and also sat on his fundraising committee
* Lied, claims to be pro 2nd amendment, denied it was his handwriting on a questionnaire in which he favored a gun ban, later proved it was his writing
* Lied, claimed he never heard anti-American, anti-White speeches at his church; his own autobiography indicates he did and as he later admitted under pressure
* Declared he could never disown Rev. Wright; two months later when Wright called him out for being a typical politican, Obama disowned him
* When a female reporter questioned what he would do to help suffering working class factory workers, brushed her off with “Hold on, sweetie”
* Claimed his church was mainstream and representative black churches; abandoned church two months later for political gain
* Threw grandmother who raised him under the bus, comparing her racism to Rev. Wright and later calling her a “typical white person”

Unknown to America

* Lied, claiming he was born due to 1965 Selma marches; Obama was born in 1961
* Lied, claiming the Kennedys brought his father over from Kenya
* Lies, implied his father was a goat-herder of humble origins; Obama’s father was born to powerful landowners
* Lied, implied he was destitute and grew up on food stamps; Obama grew up mostly with his grandparents, who were upper middle-class bankers in Hawaii, a state where food stamps weren’t available until the seventies
* Lied, claimed an article in Life magazine changed his life; article in question never found to exist
* Admitted to using cocaine, but attacked anyone who mentions it as racist
* Lied, claimed in front of a Jewish audience that his uncle liberated Auschwitz; neither American nor Kenyan troops liberated Auschwitz, the Soviets did

Unfair Attacker

* Hypocritically claims to practice new politics, but backstabbed his first political mentor Alice Palmer, getting her thrown off the ballot in Illinois in order to take her place
* Hypocritically Criticized Hillary for her ties to Wal-Mart; conveniently failed to mention his wife’s financial ties to Wal-Mart
* Lied, unfairly attacking and purposely distorting the Iraq Use of Force resolution, ignoring that Democrats voted for it because Colin Powell, an Obama admirer, told the Senators it was not a war vote but a bargaining tool to get United Nations weapons inspectors back into Iraq
* Lied, unfairly attacking and purposely distorting Senator Clinton’s vote for the Iraq Use of Force resolution, ignoring that she gave a speech on the Senate floor indicated that the Bush administration needed to keep its word on using it only as a diplomatic tool
* Allowed campaign to deliberately took Hillary’s RFK comments completely out of context to trash her, then when criticized for it, lied about doing so
* Deliberately took Clinton comments out of context to label the Clintons racist by leaking a race-baiting memo, then when the damage was done, backtracked

Undemocratic

* Obama blocked revotes in Florida and Michigan with no DNC intervention to stop this disenfranchisement
* Obama and the DNC Claimed Florida voters didn’t count because all Democratic candidates agreed not to campaign there, nevermind Obama was the only candidate to run an ad campaign in Florida
* Obama removed name from Michigan ballot when early polling showed he would lose bigtime
* DNC awarded 59 free delegates from Michigan when his name wasn’t even on the ballot
* DNC undemocratically punished the voters of Michigan for a primary date they didn’t authorize by only counting their votes for half
* DNC hypocritically ignored that Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina also broke the DNC primary date rules, choosing instead to disenfranchise voters in Michigan and Florida
* DNC failed to denounce the sexism and grotesque attacks faced by Hillary during the primary season
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:39 AM   #2
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Looks like the smear campaign is in full effect.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:39 AM   #3
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If he does get elected, let's hope the man doesn't push the wrong button again.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:46 AM   #4
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If he does get elected, let's hope the man doesn't push the wrong button again.
You mean "The Panic" button.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:47 AM   #5
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:47 AM   #6
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And you folks still wanna vote for this guy.
I don't know, Dan. You might want to go easy on running Obama down or you might lose that "well respected mod" title with the poster(s) on the left. Just sayin'.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:55 AM   #7
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I don't know, Dan. You might want to go easy on running Obama down or you might lose that "well respected mod" title with the poster(s) on the left. Just sayin'.
I hear ya Willie, however just look at that list though.
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Old 09-19-2008, 11:55 AM   #8
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What is disturbing to me is how people will apparently focus on this ridiculous minutiae when deciding where to cast their vote. Do you think similar lists don't exist for McCain? I'm not saying Obama is better than McCain or vice versa, but why not become informed and think about who to vote for, instead of being distracted by this sort of silliness.
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:01 PM   #9
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now go ahead and post the list for mccain

waiting....
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:02 PM   #10
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now go ahead and post the list for mccain

waiting....
I think there's a 40000 Character limit per post.
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:03 PM   #11
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Much of these are covered at Snopes.com.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/Obama/50lies.asp

Pretty dissapointed in you BBD. Didn't figure u for a brainwashed GOP sheep who falls for Internet rumors and outright fabrications.
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Pretty dissapointed in you BBD. Didn't figure u for a brainwashed GOP sheep who falls for Internet rumors and outright fabrications.
Mr.Nicky and the coach convinced me that Obama is not the right man for this job.
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brilliant copy and paste....

glad you like the direction your country is going....

can u say "TITANIC"?

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the iceberg will save us!
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:11 PM   #15
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he alrdy lost my respect willy bee lol, guy is just a spammer and copy/paster
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Wow, BBD. Thanks for spewing GOP propaganda on the forum. Did you feel the need to do this because you can't defend your own candidates policies, perhaps? Smear. Smear. Smear. There is no Swift Boat this election, sir. You can't win the election with lies this time. Get informed. Not dirty.
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A few hundred thousand posts on message boards and you think someone would have a basic command of English.

If SBR is going to allow their moderators to spam the board with this BS, this will be my last post on this board.
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Mr.Nicky and the coach convinced me that Obama is not the right man for this job.
Can't stress this statement enough, BBD. Maybe the educated will get it soon.
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If SBR is going to allow their moderators to spam the board with this BS, this will be my last post on this board.
We're all entitled to our political beliefs, politics in general is just a sensitive subject but everyone sees things in their own light.
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lol. Damn, durito. Relax, pal. There are plenty of threads here saying much worse about McCain and Palin filled with just the same sort of damaging propoganda.
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The really sad part is it makes me think BBD is on my father's e-mail distribution list.
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lol. Damn, durito. Relax, pal. There are plenty of threads here saying much worse about McCain and Palin filled with just the same sort of damaging propoganda.
Not by mods.
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Not by mods.
I don't know, Monkey. I'd have to go look, but I think there have been Mod started threads regarding the issue.
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We're all entitled to our political beliefs, politics in general is just a sensitive subject but everyone sees things in their own light.
Posting completely fabricated lists by uneducated SBR employees is not appropriate.

Good luck with the forum. This is not the place for me anymore.
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It's a good thing we have mods to move this to the poLOLitics forum

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You might want to place you bet on Obama now before it goes down any further.
The latest news:
1.He promotes change, but what change, except to keep changing his mind. Read the New York Post for his latest change -
OBAMA TRIED TO DELAY TROOP WITHDRAW FROM IRAQ (I would think this would be treason) - http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008...wal_129150.htm
My guess is that you hadn't heard about it. I know that I hadn't! The story broke on the 16th.
2. although not in office very long, he was the #2 person to receive money from Fannie Mae - you know the company that we the people are bailing out (the and Dodd {#1 person} voted against McCain's bill to regulate them
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durito, the list was not made by an SBR employee. It was simply copy and pasted from somewhere else. Look at how many threads have been started about Palin's appearance, or her daughter, or McCain's age, ect.... You can't tell me that lies aren't being thrown around in those threads as well. What do you want SBR to be? All democrat? As soon as someone posts something negitive about Obama, you're going to leave? But yet, I see you in all the McCain threads bashing away.
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Fantastic post, Dan. This definitely made me feel good about deciding to vote for McCain this year specifically to keep Obama out of the White House. The best part was his lie about his "goat-herding" father. If you're going to lie, wouldn't it be smart to say he was a sheep-herder, since he's trying to be the leader of the World's Largest Sheep Farm?

I'm also absolutely amazed at how much love there is for an African-American candidate. This is PROOF POSITIVE that we no longer need affirmative action, in any form, in this country. As soon as a member of a race can be a legitimate candidate for President, you've lost rights to call yourselves under-priviledged. Renouncing affirmative action is the only thing Obama could do to make me respect him.

McCain "grew up" in Vietnam and the Hanoi Hilton. Obama grew up at Princeton. 'Nuff said.
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Come on people, just like obama's tactics, I do not like what you are saying, so you shall not be a moderator anymore. Wow, makes you wonder about what you are fighting for. Attack, attack, attack just like obama asked you to do, and if we dont vote, we are racists. Well guess what, obama is the biggest Racist and is just a typical black person.

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Mods represent the site, Panic. It's one thing to state your reasonings for supporting one candidate over another. It's entirely another to copy and paste propaganda to further your cause, especially when he has been confronted by posters about some of the issues at hand and chooses not to defend them. Instead, he posts this rhetoric.
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Lol, no he has the right to do as he pleases. If you dont like it start a thread about how obama is good for the country. I know it will be hard but take a shot, but stop complaining.
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What issues, Monkey? All I keep seeing is Obama supporters showing up in droves belittling others who don't agree with them. Just look at this thread. You can tell who is Democrat and who is Republican by the name calling and lack there of.

I have seen durito in many, many threads call Republican supporters uneducated, just like he did to BBD here. He spits it out at posters every chance he gets when they side with McCain, but as soon as someone posts something about Obama, he's going to leave? If BBD had posted something bad about McCain, I bet NO ONE would have a problem.
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Stop bashing Dan, already. You're telling me that idiots making naked videos of themselves has more place on this forum than an informative list about a potential "Leader of the Free World"? And aren't we all entitled to our opinions on anything by the Constitution? Dan is simply exercising his right to free speech. If you don't like it, just read another thread! It's not like this thread is a pop-up for anyone who visit the forum.

And why is it even relevant that he's a Moderator? He's just supposed to keep things civil in here, not be some silent watchdog for the "SBR Powers That Be". These political threads have been great, they've drawn me into posting everyday. I'd much rather argue politics and world affairs than read drivel about who's up and who's down on their picks.
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Posting completely fabricated lists by uneducated SBR employees is not appropriate.

Good luck with the forum. This is not the place for me anymore.
Well at least something good came out of all this.
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Rogue keeps proving what a big dope he is.

Clue: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp
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