[SlickFazzer]

Whats your hourly rate, are you profiting?

[Man o' War]

Originally Posted by SlickFazzer

Whats your hourly rate, are you profiting?

I've got a strict system and I am profiting. I play 1 unit per day. If I lose that unit, I am out for the day. If I double my money I stop playing straight away also. If neither have happened and I hit 150 hands, I stop playing whatever the result. Statistically, I have been very poor after that amount of hands and I have had decent success with my system.

Some weeks I would be around the 20 hour mark, other weeks I would be less. For example, last night on my first hand I got pocket aces. 3 people went all in and I followed. I won, and picked up 3 units in one hand. A playing time of 1 minute where other nights I will play the full 150 hands with little loss or gain.

I wouldn't have a clue what my hourly rate was but my balance has improved greatly since I started my system shown above.

Hope this helps.

[bigboydan]

Welcome to the forum sir

I hope you have continued success with your strategy

[Man o' War]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

Welcome to the forum sir

I hope you have continued success with your strategy

Thanks.

I've always been disciplined with my sports and not so much with my poker. Now that I've set some decent rules, good results are coming my way.

[jjgold]

Most guys are not playing poker online anymore, market has sunk

Live poker is still pretty popular though

[Man o' War]

Originally Posted by jjgold

Most guys are not playing poker online anymore, market has sunk

Live poker is still pretty popular though

Agree with that but I have limited time to get to the Casino for poker where I can happily go 1 - 2 hours a night online.

[TheLock]

I used to play more than 20 hours a week back in the PartyPoker days.

Since then I only play at local casino's. Had my hourly up to $21 an hour and have been running bad for 3 months. Hourly is now down to $9 an hour.

Still up $1k for the year but meh...........

[TheLock]

Originally Posted by Man o' War

I've got a strict system and I am profiting. I play 1 unit per day. If I lose that unit, I am out for the day. If I double my money I stop playing straight away also. If neither have happened and I hit 150 hands, I stop playing whatever the result. Statistically, I have been very poor after that amount of hands and I have had decent success with my system.

Some weeks I would be around the 20 hour mark, other weeks I would be less. For example, last night on my first hand I got pocket aces. 3 people went all in and I followed. I won, and picked up 3 units in one hand. A playing time of 1 minute where other nights I will play the full 150 hands with little loss or gain.

I wouldn't have a clue what my hourly rate was but my balance has improved greatly since I started my system shown above.

Hope this helps.

I hope I don't get in trouble by posting this (sorry Mods if this is not allowed) but www.checkyourbets.com is a great way to track your play and it keeps your hourly rate for you.

It's free too.

[Man o' War]

Originally Posted by TheLock

I used to play more than 20 hours a week back in the PartyPoker days.

Since then I only play at local casino's. Had my hourly up to $21 an hour and have been running bad for 3 months. Hourly is now down to $9 an hour.

Still up $1k for the year but meh...........

This is something I should do. I have been meticulously keeping details except this stat. I'll start doing it from now on and report back in a while.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I play approximately 50 hours per week here in Vegas in strictly live games. I generally play $2/$5 NL and $5/$10 NL. I don't track my hourly rate but I do track my session rates. I'm averaging $373.67 in profit per session. I used to play strictly online before I moved to Vegas. Since moving here, I haven't played online at all as the live games here are much easier to beat than online poker these days.

[TheLock]

Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker

I play approximately 50 hours per week here in Vegas in strictly live games. I generally play $2/$5 NL and $5/$10 NL. I don't track my hourly rate but I do track my session rates. I'm averaging $373.67 in profit per session. I used to play strictly online before I moved to Vegas. Since moving here, I haven't played online at all as the live games here are much easier to beat than online poker these days.

What percentage of your sessions are winning sessions?

[Man o' War]

Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker

I play approximately 50 hours per week here in Vegas in strictly live games. I generally play $2/$5 NL and $5/$10 NL. I don't track my hourly rate but I do track my session rates. I'm averaging $373.67 in profit per session. I used to play strictly online before I moved to Vegas. Since moving here, I haven't played online at all as the live games here are much easier to beat than online poker these days.

That's some decent work. I live in a remote area so my live poker options are very limited. A few guys from my town travel to the closest Casino (2 hours) and have had massive years on the $2/$5 and $5/$10 NL tables too. They also agree with live poker being easier than online to win decent money at.

How long do are your sessions on average?

[VegasDave]

I'm getting ready to try playing at my local casino semi-professionally... I've had success there before so I'm wondering if I could profit playing regularly.

I'll keep you updated.

[MonkeyF0cker]

72.38% of my sessions I post some sort of profit. Personally, I would HIGHLY advise against the limiting strategy posted above (150 hands, leave after losing a buyin or doubling up). If you are a winning player, you should fully exploit weak competition whenever you can find it. If you limit yourself to rules such as those, you will definitely be giving up opportunities to maximize your bankroll against -EG competition.

[wtt0315]

i am sort of same way. played online forever and after looking at all my stats for last 2 years i am down like 500 dollars due to mostly playing crazy and getting bored. Moved to daytona and have a poker room a mile from where I live. Been going about a hour a night and playing tight and am up about 2 k since moving here 3 weeks ago. Bad thing is i go home and lose it on my mets

[Man o' War]

Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker

72.38% of my sessions I post some sort of profit. Personally, I would HIGHLY advise against the limiting strategy posted above (150 hands, leave after losing a buyin or doubling up). If you are a winning player, you should fully exploit weak competition whenever you can find it. If you limit yourself to rules such as those, you will definitely be giving up opportunities to maximize your bankroll against -EG competition.

If I were to go semi or fully pro I would advise against this strategy too but it is working for me at this point and I can't complain with the results. I needed to apply the similar discipline to my poker as I do with my sports.

There are times where I feel that I doubled up very easily and could go on with it but my personal statistics have shown that the longer I am in the game, the more likely I am of going bust.

I am hardly great Poker player but I'm making money on my current strategy and that is fine by me.

[Man o' War]

Originally Posted by usckingsfan31

I'm getting ready to try playing at my local casino semi-professionally... I've had success there before so I'm wondering if I could profit playing regularly.

I'll keep you updated.

All the best with that.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I don't track my session length but my guess as to an average would be in the 7 hour range. Like I said in the previous post, I try to find the softest games in town and exploit -EG competition. I stay until the table loses those type of players, I have something else to do, or I'm tired. I generally play later at night in hopes of finding games where drunken tourists are playing...

[Man o' War]

Originally Posted by wtt0315

i am sort of same way. played online forever and after looking at all my stats for last 2 years i am down like 500 dollars due to mostly playing crazy and getting bored. Moved to daytona and have a poker room a mile from where I live. Been going about a hour a night and playing tight and am up about 2 k since moving here 3 weeks ago. Bad thing is i go home and lose it on my mets

The bold section was my exact reason for limiting my playing time to 150 hands. I find it I have clearly stated goals, limits and etc I have more success.

[Man o' War]

Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker

I don't track my session length but my guess as to an average would be in the 7 hour range. Like I said in the previous post, I try to find the softest games in town and exploit -EG competition. I stay until the table loses those type of players, I have something else to do, or I'm tired. I generally play later at night in hopes of finding games where drunken tourists are playing...

I like that strategy.

[donjuan]

If you are a winning player, you should fully exploit weak competition whenever you can find it.

Strategies that involve stop losses or stop wins are stupid unless you too much of your bankroll is on the table.

[VegasDave]

Originally Posted by Man o' War

All the best with that.

Thanks!

The local casino has an $80 1/3 NL game that is insanely soft... played there about 12 times from 1 - 3 hrs each time and was up $1100.

Hoping to have similar success this time around!

[Man o' War]

Originally Posted by donjuan

Strategies that involve stop losses or stop wins are stupid unless you too much of your bankroll is on the table.

1% of mine is on the table every single day as a maximum. Once I lose that I'm gone. It works much better for me than anything else has.

This thread has been hijacked from it's original message so I will start a new one regarding this.

[TheLock]

Originally Posted by donjuan

Strategies that involve stop losses or stop wins are stupid unless you too much of your bankroll is on the table.

Sometimes stop losses/wins come into play when your dealing with time restraints (ie: you've been playing poker for 4 hours and you know you can only play for another hour etc..)

[TheLock]

Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker

72.38% of my sessions I post some sort of profit. Personally, I would HIGHLY advise against the limiting strategy posted above (150 hands, leave after losing a buyin or doubling up). If you are a winning player, you should fully exploit weak competition whenever you can find it. If you limit yourself to rules such as those, you will definitely be giving up opportunities to maximize your bankroll against -EG competition.

A friend of mine has won (profit) 10K in the past calendar year playing $1/$2 NL.

His win percentage is 55%. Congrats if you've hit 72.38% but it's basically impossible over a large sample size.

[Man o' War]

Originally Posted by TheLock

A friend of mine has won (profit) 10K in the past calendar year playing $1/$2 NL.

His win percentage is 55%. Congrats if you've hit 72.38% but it's basically impossible over a large sample size.

I'm really interested in hearing other people's strategies. If anyone would be so kind, I've just started a thread What's your strategy?.

[sofun]

I know couple people who are living with Poker only, they make around 5 to 10G every month to feed their family,

I see they play solid hand, when to quit, when to mud and when to call and raise, basicly it requires a lot about your temper, as long as you don't get piss off you might have a chance to win in poker, control your temper is one of the most defficult thing to do in poker game, if you can't you that, you are loser, even myself I can't control my temper eventhough I have try and can't do it

[donjuan]

Sometimes stop losses/wins come into play when your dealing with time restraints (ie: you've been playing poker for 4 hours and you know you can only play for another hour etc..)

What does that have to do with anything?

[TheLock]

Originally Posted by donjuan

What does that have to do with anything?

You said stop losses are stupid.


I disagree. If you've been playing cards for 5 hours and you're up $700, deciding that you're only willing to lose say $125 of that before you leave is not stupid when you have time restraints.

Are we talking about something completely different?

[daneblazer]

Any one here play poker more than 20hrs a week?

I play about 5-15 hours a week depending on how deep I go into tournaments. If I didn't have a wife I'd play 20 easily

[TheLock]

Originally Posted by daneblazer

I play about 5-15 hours a week depending on how deep I go into tournaments. If I didn't have a wife I'd play 20 easily

Sounds like you know what you need to do pal.

[donjuan]

You said stop losses are stupid.


I disagree. If you've been playing cards for 5 hours and you're up $700, deciding that you're only willing to lose say $125 of that before you leave is not stupid when you have time restraints.

What does that have to do with anything? Why would you only be willing to lose $125 before you leave if you are in a +EG situation? How is that situation any different than any other poker situation?

[daneblazer]

You just have to find what you are comfortable playing and go with it. I have about a 45% ROI in tournaments but get beat pretty bad any time I play cash games.

I'd recommend reading anything 2+2 publishes, especially the Harrington series if you want to get an edge over the majority of the players out there.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Originally Posted by TheLock

A friend of mine has won (profit) 10K in the past calendar year playing $1/$2 NL.

His win percentage is 55%. Congrats if you've hit 72.38% but it's basically impossible over a large sample size.

Well then I guess I'm close to accomplishing the impossible. That is a sample size of 342 sessions. I have had several long runs without posting a losing session, including one of 38. No offense but just because your friend can't do it doesn't mean that others can't. $10k in a year playing $1/$2 NL is very meager. I know many $1/$2 NL pros here in Vegas that do much, much better than that, several averaging over $50k/year for several years straight.

[TheLock]

Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker

Well then I guess I'm close to accomplishing the impossible. That is a sample size of 342 sessions. I have had several long runs without posting a losing session, including one of 38. No offense but just because your friend can't do it doesn't mean that others can't. $10k in a year playing $1/$2 NL is very meager. I know many $1/$2 NL pros here in Vegas that do much, much better than that, several averaging over $50k/year for several years straight.

My friend isn't a poker pro in the sense that he makes his living off of it. He has a regular job and plays poker as a hobby (which of course doesn't mean he is a bad or good player). You can be a shitty pro (obviously that won't last real long ) and you can be a really good player who plays for fun.


I'm not necessarily doubting you but if your running over 70% why don't you just play the $10/$20 NL (no max buy in) game at the Wynn and retire in 10 years?