2003 NBA Draft... Who would you take?

mofome · 01-18-2008, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 5 star bomb

So you havent seen any Clippers games this year either? And how can you justify Anthony over Wade? Wade single handedly has won a ring already

wade is always banged up these days, i would rather have anthony on my team right now.

where is your answer? i suppose you have wade over James, thats nice.

rjt721 · 01-18-2008, 02:00 AM

I'll never understand why some of you are so high on Kaman. Putting him ahead of Bosh, J-Howard or Melo (even though I dislike Melo's game) is ridiculous. Don't be fooled by Kaman's numbers this season. His success can solely be attributed to Elton Brand's absence and, as a result, Kaman becoming the No. 1 offensive option on a terrible team. Someone has to score for the Clips, and Kaman's benefited from getting 14+ shots per game. Despite this, he's shooting 47% from the field, 17th among centers, and down from his career 48% clip. Kaman's nothing more than a good, serviceable big. He'll go back to being your typical 12/8 guy who isn't much of a defensive presence when Brand comes back. If he wasn't already signed long-term, I'm sure the Knicks would be lining up to overpay for him.

rm18 · 01-18-2008, 02:06 AM

14 rebounds and 3 blocks just because Brand is out? They do not play a fast pace either, so those numbers really are more impressive than Dwight Howard or Marcus Camby.

5 star bomb · 01-18-2008, 02:08 AM

Kaman had problems psychology in his head, there was a special on him the other night, he feels much better and he has way too many skills offensively to be considered an average big man. He is a very nice player imo. He finally has figured some things out and is the real deal. For taking wayyyy more shots and only being down 1% from his career marks is a good sign and not a bad sign... more shots and opportunities should = -5% or so...

mofome · 01-18-2008, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 5 star bomb

Kaman had problems psychology in his head, there was a special on him the other night, he feels much better and he has way too many skills offensively to be considered an average big man. He is a very nice player imo. He finally has figured some things out and is the real deal. For taking wayyyy more shots and only being down 1% from his career marks is a good sign and not a bad sign... more shots and opportunities should = -5% or so...

if he doesnt end up with a future in the league, he could always fall back on a modeling career.

5 star bomb · 01-18-2008, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mofome

wade is always banged up these days, i would rather have anthony on my team right now.

where is your answer? i suppose you have wade over James, thats nice.

I cant rank Wade ahead of Lebron bc of injury BUT.. if 100% than yes I would take Wade.. Here is my list... Now here are the TRUE rankings

Lebron
Wade
Bosh
Kaman
Carmelo
Howard
Hinrich

5 star bomb · 01-18-2008, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mofome

if he doesnt end up with a future in the league, he could always fall back on a modeling career.

He is one ugly MOFO isnt he?? Get it MOFO! LOL... Luckily hes an awesome bball player bc I have a feeling modeling wouldnt go so good for him!

rjt721 · 01-18-2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rm18

14 rebounds and 3 blocks just because Brand is out?

Yes, absolutely it's a result of Brand being out. And numbers don't mean anything. Jamal Crawford's averaging 20 ppg. Does that make him one of the better players in the league? Of course not.

In the case of Kaman, he's just not an impact player, and a 3rd or 4th option on a championship-caliber team.

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Originally Posted by rm18

They do not play a fast pace either, so those numbers really are more impressive than Dwight Howard.

Nothing Kaman does is more impressive than Dwight Howard. Nothing.

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Originally Posted by 5 star bomb

For taking wayyyy more shots and only being down 1% from his career marks is a good sign and not a bad sign... more shots and opportunities should = -5% or so...

47% from a 7-ft. center is not good. Not ever.

5 star bomb · 01-18-2008, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rjt721

Yes, absolutely it's a result of Brand being out. And numbers don't mean anything. Jamal Crawford's averaging 20 ppg. Does that make him one of the better players in the league? Of course not.

In the case of Kaman, he's just not an impact player, and a 3rd or 4th option on a championship-caliber team.

47% from a 7-ft. center is not good. Not ever.

UMMMM, he doesnt just dunk or layup the ball, he takes some outside shots also... Im guessing you havent seen the Clippers play this year. Kaman is a totally different player this year

rjt721 · 01-18-2008, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 5 star bomb

UMMMM, he doesnt just dunk or layup the ball, he takes some outside shots also... Im guessing you havent seen the Clippers play this year. Kaman is a totally different player this year

Great, he can step out and hit an 18-footer. We really need more bigs like that in the league. Why is he a "totally different player?" Because his numbers are better and he has more responsibility offensively? It certainly hasn't translated into more Ws for the Clips. Kaman's a good player... just nothing special.

rm18 · 01-18-2008, 02:37 AM

You can't compare volume shooting to put up points to putting up rebounds and blocks in the NBA. The only players in NBA history who topped Kaman's current averages in points, rebounds and blocks in a season are Olajuwon, Jabbar, and O'Neal

5 star bomb · 01-18-2008, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rm18

You can't compare volume shooting to put up points to putting up rebounds and blocks in the NBA. The only players in NBA history who topped Kaman's current averages in points, rebounds and blocks in a season are Olajuwon, Jabbar, and O'Neal

If that doesnt explain the type of season Kaman is having I dont know what else can... He has been a BEAST this year

rm18 · 01-18-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 5 star bomb

If that doesnt explain the type of season Kaman is having I dont know what else can... He has been a BEAST this year

correction Bill Walton did it his MVP season, Jabbar did it 3 times and Hakeem and O'neal once. Of course blocks have only been counted since '73. I would think Jabbar did it at least 3 more times and Chamberlain at least 10 times, and Russell twice.

Looking at stats I am surprised Bil Russell only shot 44% for his career, that is not very good.

5 star bomb · 01-19-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rm18

correction Bill Walton did it his MVP season, Jabbar did it 3 times and Hakeem and O'neal once. Of course blocks have only been counted since '73. I would think Jabbar did it at least 3 more times and Chamberlain at least 10 times, and Russell twice.

Looking at stats I am surprised Bil Russell only shot 44% for his career, that is not very good.

Russell only 44%? Wow, im shocked by that