[bigboydan]

Not exactly something I really like to do at all, but I just grabbed 2 units on the Patriots -400 on the money line.

[ipickwinners]

gl, i think the pats will win, but i NEVER, NEVER EVER lay more than -200.... i hope u cash this though

[homedog]

Good luck, dan. Will be on the Pats side.

[bigboydan]

Thanks Homie

What did you get the Pats line at?

[BuddyBear]

-400 is a major bargain for this game.....I'll be joining you likely BBD.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Maybe I'm crazy but I'm on the Pats -21.5 @ +280. I really think this game will be an annihilation. GL BBD. I'll be rooting for the Pats with you...

[pavyracer]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

Not exactly something I really like to do at all, but I just grabbed 2 units on the Patriots -400 on the money line.

There are about 100 soccer games every weekend offering -400 and usually 99 of them come true. Why will someone put money on juice that high on a CHAMPIONSHIP GAME is mind-boggling.

[homedog]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

Thanks Homie

What did you get the Pats line at?

11'

[20Four7]

Originally Posted by bigboydan

Not exactly something I really like to do at all, but I just grabbed 2 units on the Patriots -400 on the money line.

SIA BBD, that was what I got from them as well.

[cobra_king]

Dan, the last time i remember you laying such big wood was on Brady and his TD passes and we all know how that turned out. What are the chances Brady bites you in the ass again????

[icemantbi]

Originally Posted by pavyracer

There are about 100 soccer games every weekend offering -400 and usually 99 of them come true. Why will someone put money on juice that high on a CHAMPIONSHIP GAME is mind-boggling.

Nope, less than 99 out of 100 -400 plus games come through. btw, Cagliari, the absolute worst team in Serie A was able to hold Juventus, one of the top 3 teams in Serie A, to a 1-1 draw in Juventus' own backyard. And Inter got lucky, as Empoli missed a late penalty that would have tied the game 1-1. Again, the best team in Serie A almost drew to the second worst team in Serie A, in Inter's own backyard. Both games were near -500 at kickoff.

[Razz]

Totally agree. Anything under -700 is a bargain. Good luck.

[greek]

Boston Over N Y Again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its Gonna Be Ugly Like The Celtics Over The Knicks YOUR LOOKIN AT HISTORY REMEMBER THIS DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cannon]

#5 seed can't win vs N.E.

[pavyracer]

Will the last one with the money from the -400 bargain shut the lights out please?

[bigboydan]

Originally Posted by cobra_king

Dan, the last time i remember you laying such big wood was on Brady and his TD passes and we all know how that turned out. What are the chances Brady bites you in the ass again????

Yep, That damn N.E. got me once again Corba King, and in grand fashion too I might add.

[icemantbi]

Hope you didn't lose too much bbd. Let this be a lesson to never take those high ML.

[LT Profits]

I had Pats ML parlayed with two CBB winners. Damn Boston faggots!

[bettilimbroke999]

I would never take a -400 or worse money line in the superbowl EVER and especially not when the teams last meeting was a field goal decision. I put 400/312 on NY +14 and thoroughly enjoyed the game as I was never down more than 4, just as anyone should've seen coming since these two exact teams played this exact game just a few weeks ago and NE narrowly escaped by a field goal. Idiots on here are somehow taking NE to blowout NY with bets like NE -21.5 are you f'ing kidding me, and ML saying "Easy Money" Laying 2200 to win 500 when at best they were a 7 pt favorite, why can't I be these guys bookie? (shakes head)

[pavyracer]

Originally Posted by bettilimbroke999

I would never take a -400 or worse money line in the superbowl EVER and especially not when the teams last meeting was a field goal decision. I put 400/312 on NY +14 and thoroughly enjoyed the game as I was never down more than 4, just as anyone should've seen coming since these two exact teams played this exact game just a few weeks ago and NE narrowly escaped by a field goal. Idiots on here are somehow taking NE to blowout NY with bets like NE -21.5 are you f'ing kidding me, and ML saying "Easy Money" Laying 2200 to win 500 when at best they were a 7 pt favorite, why can't I be these guys bookie? (shakes head)

[Curse Fire]

It dont fail that some noob comes into a post after the
game and talks about how he wont never bet something
that seem like a obvious bet after the game is over. I
cant wait till next year to see this guys picks each week
so we can cash a bunch of games.



Go Juice Go!

[pavyracer]

Originally Posted by Curse Fire

It dont fail that some noob comes into a post after the
game and talks about how he wont never bet something
that seem like a obvious bet after the game is over. I
cant wait till next year to see this guys picks each week
so we can cash a bunch of games.



Go Juice Go!

Why will someone put money on juice that high on a CHAMPIONSHIP GAME is mind-boggling.

I said that before the game.

[Curse Fire]

Yea it wasnt you I was talking about and even Bbd said
he hates to lay those lines but its the noobs that talk up
how they would bet a game after its over and wasnt in
the post to begin with.



Go Juice Go!

[bettilimbroke999]

I may be new to this forum but I've been sportsbetting for 5 years at numerous online sportsbooks and I'm not some jackass on here talking about what I would've bet on after the fact if you read my whole post I DID BET ON THE GAME I took NY +14 for 400 at -128 and won 312 on a bet that was as big a lock as I've seen all year. Laying 2200 to win 500 on a team that just escaped by a field goal in their last meeting just a few weeks prior and with all the momentum the Giants had from being a significant underdog in their last two playoff games and winning I felt was a terrible idea. But idiots on here were taking +280 NE -21.5 and predicting some 40 pt blowout when there was absolutely no indication of that as well as NE losing against the spread in 8 out of their last 9 games. In reality NE was no more than 7 pts better max, one lucky play like Tyree's helmet catch that led to a touchdown and the bet is 50/50, but that's my opinion maybe u laid 2200/500 and are pissed off at yourself for bein an idiot

[bettilimbroke999]

Originally Posted by pavyracer

Will the last one with the money from the -400 bargain shut the lights out please?

ROFLMAO PRICELESS

[BuddyBear]

Lot of you guys are idiots on here saying that -400 is NOT a bargain for a team that opened -14. And of course, it is always after the game that criticism comes and the "I told you so's...".

Let me explain it to you plain and simple. There is a phenomenon in Super Bowl betting where the Underdog ML is severely depressed b/c of all the squares who bet the game. Recreational bettors prefer to take the ML with the dog rather than pay the 11/10 b/c they feel they are being cheated b/c they have to lay more than they get back. Most "squares" somehow saw little difference between these two teams and many of whom took horrible numbers of +12.5/+12/+11.5....Even the ML for NYG was not what it should be. It was hardly a bargain by normal standards. Quite frankly, if you bet NYG ML you should have gotten closer to +600 in return. The week before against SD, NE was close to -800/-900 on the ML for virtually the same point spread. So really, as crazy as it seems, -400 was very very cheap price to back a team as dominant as NE.

In retrospect, -400 turned out not to be such a bargain b/c NE lost outright so those who backed them paid a heavy price. Clearly, NYG were the right side (ATS) to this game. There is no dispute about that. However, to say that laying -400 in this situation was bad is not a very accurate statement by any standard. Value does not simply exist for underdogs. Value can be found with favorites as well and on favorite ML's.

Some of you can understand what I am saying and appreciate the argument I am making even if it is post-hoc. Others of you will completely disregarded this and say to yourself that betting the NE ML was a terrible choice. If you really believe that I have no doubt in mind that you will give all your winnings back in a month's time.

[pavyracer]

Agree with parts of your arguement but the bargain always works if you are 100% you will cash. The critisism comes when someone risks $2200 to win $500. Why? If you want to win $500 bet $100 on Giants ML and if they lose you will be relieved by losing only $100. Why sweat out $2200 for a mere $500? There is a difference between value and bargain. -400 bargains always look like dumb choices if you lose. I pointed that out before the game started, not after it finished.

[BuddyBear]

Sorry Pavy, but you didn't understood a word I said....

[BuddyBear]

Just to follow up Pavy, with all do respect, in sports betting there is no "100% guarantee" I'll assume you are advanced enough along in sports betting to realize that by now. So when you say "but the bargain always works if you are 100% you will cash" you know very well that is basically never going to happen. Nothing is guaranteed other than death....

Put it this way, if you could buy a house for $770,000 but you could get the same exact house for $400,000 you would probably say to yourself it is expensive, but it is still a bargain and that you got a good price on it.

Same thing here. NE was expensive, but if you bet NE ML and got -400 you are a pretty sharp gambler and made a good bet. As asinine as that seems, it is the truth.

[bettilimbroke999]

Let me offer this defense. The Patriots were in reality about 7 pts better than the Giants in my opinion, and for those of you going oh yeah 7 pts yea right more like 21 pts look back to the final game of the regular season which albeit normally a team would pull most of their starters NE was in the midst of a record setting undefeated streak and played the game just like any other.. the result?? An escape by only 3 pts to keep their season intact not to mention a near loss against at best second or third teir Baltimore. I personally feel that there was virtually no way they would cover 14 pts and I also feel that if you took Patriots -800/-900 ML against the Chargers you are an idiot even though the Chargers had several key injuries. At -440 (2200/500) you are saying that the Giants will not be able to win 1 out of 5 of these games and that is simply a bad bet given that they are clearly no worse than 7 pts behind the Patriots, but let's just agree to disagree b/c this is after the fact, granted I too thought the Patriots would win but more than 4/5 times was a poor bet imo, either way I don't want to start off my SBR posts pissing the ML losers on NE off so let's just agree to disagree on the "value" of -440 NE

[BuddyBear]

With all do respect, I highly doubt LVSC opened the line 7 pts off. I think you are just saying this after the fact. Sure, in retrospect, NYG should have been favored.

The line was a fair price and cheap toward NE. You were talking about a 5th seed non-division winner in the weaker of the two conferences that beat 1 team with a winning record prior to the playoffs against a team that had already beat them once in their own backyard going up against a team that was 18-0. True, NYG was playing well but to open up NE -7 against the NYG on a neutral field in ideal weather conditions would have been steamed up to -10 or higher in a heatbeat. Considering you had a team 18-0 getting -400 ML for a ML price that should be closer to -800 represents extreme value even if it meant laying so much juice. I think you are engaging in intellectual dishonesty to think otherwise.

Of course, after the fact, everyone took the Giants + the points, Giants ML, and a parlay of NYG and under. Cleary anyone who took NE -400 should be pissed but also realize that they made a good bet (price wise) that just didn't cash. No other way to look at it. This is sports betting and you just have to accept the fact things like this happen from time to time.

I've never cried in a sportsbook before. Never have and I never will.....

[pavyracer]

Knowing that the Pats 3 Superbowl wins were with a combined 9 points in which they had to held with their dear lives just to hold to the wins it was very risky to bet $2200 to get $500. Now betting the -13 was even dumber after knowing the previous mentioned fact and that's why I cashed big playing the Giants +13.

[BuddyBear]

Originally Posted by pavyracer

Knowing that the Pats 3 Superbowl wins were with a combined 9 points in which they had to held with their dear lives just to hold to the wins it was very risky to bet $2200 to get $500. Now betting the -13 was even dumber after knowing the previous mentioned fact and that's why I cashed big playing the Giants +13.

With all do respect, this is just totally flawed thinking. What does it matter what the Patriots did 7 years ago in their SB? Even 3 years ago? Your going to tell me what they did in 2002 is somehow important to a game in 2008?

One game they were 14 pt dogs and won outright. Another game against Carolina was closely contested and they won by 3 (a common number in football) and then the other game was a backdoor cover by PHILLY which landed on 3.

Also, all those NE teams were bulit much more differently than this one. Those teams were builit on defense and finesse and played a defensive style. This NE team was offensively built to outscore opponents with Moss, Welker, and Stallworth and Brady having an NFL record year for a QB.

Congrats on your winning ticket, but I am afraid there is not much substance to your thinking.....

[bettilimbroke999]

Basically you feel that the Patriots would win greater than 4/5 of the games they play which is in itself flawed thinking, I feel at the very least the Giants pull off 1/5 of these. You just stated yourself the Patriots were at most 10 pt favorite (I disagree and said in REALITY they were around 7 pts better, this is how I felt before, during and after the game) after the fact I could say they were 3 pt dogs to NY but that would be intellectual dishonesty in any event giving you the benefit of the doubt and saying that they are 10 pt favorites at best -440 would still not be of any "value" to bet especially considering they faced them only a month ago and escaped with a 3 pt victory further supporting that they were no more than 7 pt favorites in reality and that the last 10 games they were simply overrated which is why if you took the dog in the last 10 games against NE you just went 9-1, where is the value in this bet, taking NE -900 against the Chargers also had no value whatsoever b/c the Chargers will pull off the upset at least 1/10th of the time. Either way you blew your money and I won so take your worthless 2200 to win 500 ticket and flush it and I'll take my lock win 400/312 NY +14, as Willy Wonka would say "Good Day Sir"

[mtx]

i unloaded on -157 before the playoffs started and im PISSED as hell.....

fkin bad beat of the year is what i feel....