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01-06-2008, 12:56 AM
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Mike Tomlin's critical errors
This guy miscued twice big time in this game. Down 28-23, after the penalty, you have to kick the extra point to get it to 28-24. There was still 10 minutes left and both teams were scoring again in this game. What are the odds of passing it 12 yards to get the 2-pointer?
If he gets the 1 point, he can kick after the next TD and they lead 31-28 instead of going for 2, missing and only being up 1.
Then, up 29-28, what was that 3rd down play with Roesthberger giving himself up basically on a QB keeper when they needed 5 yards? You gotta try and make the first down, especially with Jax needing only a FG to win. 
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01-06-2008, 01:00 AM
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agreed, however i would have kicked the FG from the 2 when he chose to go for it and they got the pass interference call. So its just too easy to pick apart decisions after the fact. Don't mind the going for two because it was an agressive call, however the QB run was a consevative call and that would rank as his biggest mistake. I was calling for a PA rollout having hines ward crossing and try and settle TE Heath Miller on the hash.
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01-06-2008, 01:02 AM
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Inexperience, that's what it amounts to. Mistakes you'd expect a rookie coach to make. I'll take it a step further though. I think the guy is not all there. Not all good defensive coaches translate into successful head coaches, and I don't know that if I was Dan Rooney I'd trust this guy steering my ship for the remainder of his contract.
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01-06-2008, 01:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattle Slew
This guy miscued twice big time in this game. Down 28-23, after the penalty, you have to kick the extra point to get it to 28-24. There was still 10 minutes left and both teams were scoring again in this game. What are the odds of passing it 12 yards to get the 2-pointer?
If he gets the 1 point, he can kick after the next TD and they lead 31-28 instead of going for 2, missing and only being up 1.
Then, up 29-28, what was that 3rd down play with Roesthberger giving himself up basically on a QB keeper when they needed 5 yards? You gotta try and make the first down, especially with Jax needing only a FG to win. 
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I 100% agree with everything you just said. The 3rd down call was flat out horrible. You have to go for the first down, Pitt at the time still had all 3 timeouts and the 2 minute warning. So if they threw an incomplete pass so what Jags are going to get the ball at around the 50 only needing 20 yards to get in range. I dont think eating clock and playing conservative on that 3rd down play was a smart move.
And I agree he should have just kicked the XP especially when it was from the 12 yard line! Are you kidding me?
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01-06-2008, 01:14 AM
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If they had let Garrad score a touchdown instead of tackling him at the 5 yd line with 2 min to go on 1st and goal they could have won the game with the way Jags defense was playing the second half.
If I was coaching I'll rather give my team time to score a TD with an organized drive rather than relying on a missed 25 FG to win the game.
Easier said than done though.
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01-06-2008, 01:23 AM
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There were so many mistakes in this game from both sides that a few coaching errors could hardly have made a difference. Stop Garrard on 4th and 2 and we're talking about the greatest comeback in playoff history.
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01-06-2008, 01:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Horse
There were so many mistakes in this game from both sides that a few coaching errors could hardly have made a difference. Stop Garrard on 4th and 2 and we're talking about the greatest comeback in playoff history.
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1993 NFL playoff game between the Buffalo Bills and the Houston Oilers

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01-06-2008, 01:52 AM
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What if ? I agree both of the coaches would of lost playing tic tac toe, chess, checkers or Corn Hole. Either way they earn more than you or I. So do the players.
What it boils down to is Defense. Add some speed, desire, and again WHAT IF? I should of when i wanted to. But now i cant.
I lost this one to the Spread. Sunday i will add another pad to my pocket.
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01-06-2008, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1
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I think it would have been the biggest 4th quarter comeback ever
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01-06-2008, 07:01 AM
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they were gonna lose anyway , pitt is old news pollsters wanted jags , they might play brady
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01-06-2008, 07:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattle Slew
This guy miscued twice big time in this game. Down 28-23, after the penalty, you have to kick the extra point to get it to 28-24. There was still 10 minutes left and both teams were scoring again in this game. What are the odds of passing it 12 yards to get the 2-pointer?
If he gets the 1 point, he can kick after the next TD and they lead 31-28 instead of going for 2, missing and only being up 1.
Then, up 29-28, what was that 3rd down play with Roesthberger giving himself up basically on a QB keeper when they needed 5 yards? You gotta try and make the first down, especially with Jax needing only a FG to win. 
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This sounds like racially-motivated diatribe vs Mike Tomlin. Are you saying that black coaches arent suited to coach in the NFL?
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01-06-2008, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1
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Yeah Dark Horse really dropped the ball on that one.
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01-06-2008, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by armyoflovers
This sounds like racially-motivated diatribe vs Mike Tomlin. Are you saying that black coaches arent suited to coach in the NFL?
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where de he say Tomlin is black?
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01-06-2008, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by armyoflovers
This sounds like racially-motivated diatribe vs Mike Tomlin. Are you saying that black coaches arent suited to coach in the NFL?
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Strangest thing.....I keep reading and rereading the original post, but I still don't see the words "Black", "African-American", "ebonic", or any term related to race, color or ethnicity. I will nonetheless continue to go over Seattle Slew's post with a fine tooth comb, as it is no doubt dripping with racist intent that I am obviously overlooking.....
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01-06-2008, 09:33 AM
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when i read it what I culled from it was that black men cant coach. Nobody talked about Crack Del Rios decision to go away from the run in 2nd half did they?
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01-06-2008, 09:41 AM
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when i read it what I culled from it was that black men cant coach. Nobody talked ab | | |