[slacker00]

Arizona Cardinals
1 Over 8.5 wins +135
2 Under 8.5 wins -147

Atlanta Falcons
3 Over 8 wins -130
4 Under 8 wins +118

Baltimore Ravens
5 Over 7.5 wins -147
6 Under 7.5 wins +135

Buffalo Bills
7 Over 6.5 wins +100
8 Under 6.5 wins -110

Carolina Panthers
9 Over 9.5 wins -159
10 Under 9.5 wins +144

Chicago Bears
11 Over 9 wins -145
12 Under 9 wins +133

Cincinnati Bengals
13 Over 9 wins -119
14 Under 9 wins +109

Cleveland Browns
15 Over 6.5 wins -164
16 Under 6.5 wins +149

Dallas Cowboys
17 Over 9.5 wins +103
18 Under 9.5 wins -113

Denver Broncos
19 Over 10 wins -104 Risk To Win
20 Under 10 wins -106 Risk To Win

Detroit Lions
21 Over 6.5 wins -150 Risk To Win
22 Under 6.5 wins +135 Risk To Win

Green Bay Packers
23 Over 6 wins -155 Risk To Win
24 Under 6 wins +140

Houston Texas
25 Over 5.5 wins -114 Risk To Win
26 Under 5.5 wins +104

Indianapolis Colts
27 Over 11.5 wins +105 Risk To Win
28 Under 11.5 wins -115

Jacksonville Jaguars
29 Over 9.5 wins +135 Risk To Win
30 Under 9.5 wins -147

Kansas City Chiefs
31 Over 9 wins -114 Risk To Win
32 Under 9 wins +104

Miami Dolphins
33 Over 9 wins -114 Risk To Win
34 Under 9 wins +104

Minnesota Vikings
35 Over 8 wins -128 Risk To Win
36 Under 8 wins +118

New England Patriots
37 Over 10.5 wins +109 Risk To Win
38 Under 10.5 wins -119

New Orleans Saints
39 Over 7 wins +118 Risk To Win
40 Under 7 wins -128

New York Giants
41 Over 9.5 wins +157 Risk To Win
42 Under 9.5 wins -172

New York Jets
43 Over 5.5 wins -152 Risk To Win
44 Under 5.5 wins +137

Oakland Raiders
45 Over 6 wins -129 Risk To Win
46 Under 6 wins +119

Philadelphia Eagles
47 Over 8.5 wins -132 Risk To Win
48 Under 8.5 wins +120

Pittsburgh Steelers
49 Over 10.5 wins +129 Risk To Win
50 Under 10.5 wins -141

San Diego Chargers
51 Over 9 wins -107 Risk To Win
52 Under 9 wins -103

San Francisco 49ers
53 Over 5 wins -106 Risk To Win
54 Under 5 wins -104

Seattle Seahawks
55 Over 10.5 wins +104 Risk To Win
56 Under 10.5 wins -114

St. Louis Rams
57 Over 7 wins +109 Risk To Win
58 Under 7 wins -119

Tampa Bay Buccaneers
59 Over 8.5 wins +147 Risk To Win
60 Under 8.5 wins -162

Tennessee Titans
61 Over 5.5 wins +104
62 Under 5.5 wins -114

Washington Redskins
63 Over 9 wins -120
64 Under 9 wins +110

Thu 6/1 06:00 AM
Maximum Wager: 714.29 USD

EDIT: I had to format the lines, and cut extraneous verbiage... It was just ugly to look at.

[rm18]

The Raiders Over 6 and Chiefs under 9 look really easy

[slacker00]

Here's some leans. I'm going to wait until a week or two before the opening game to place any actual wagers though. Too much transition in the NFL. It pays to see how new acquisitions are performing with their new teams(T.O., Brees, Bush, Keyshawn, etc), as well as how last year's injuries are recovering (McNabb), and how newly promoted starters (Rivers) will look.

Carolina Panthers: 10 Under 9.5 wins +144
San Francisco 49ers:53 Over 5 wins -106
San Diego Chargers :52 Under 9 wins -103
Philadelphia Eagles :48 Under 8.5 wins +120
New Orleans Saints :40 Under 7 wins -128
Green Bay Packers :24 Under 6 wins +140
Dallas Cowboys :17 Over 9.5 wins +103

[imgv94]

Seahwaks Under 10.5 EASY!! Team that loses Super
Bowl never comes back next year to do anything.

Green Bay Over 6 EASY!! Much improved team! Lost 6
close games by less than 4pts. Looks like free money!!!

[Illusion]

Bears under looks like a lock.

[imgv94]

I have another one!!

Detroit Lions Over 6.5

All they need to do is win 7 games? Looks easy!!!!

[slacker00]

Green Bay Over 6 EASY!! Much improved team! Lost 6
close games by less than 4pts. Looks like free money!!!

I dunno, man. Their O-Line looks like it might be worse than Houston's last season. Without an O-Line, you've got nothing. I'll keep you posted through the training camp, as I live right here in Wisconsin, and nobody talks about anything except the Packers around here.

Seahwaks Under 10.5 EASY!! Team that loses Super
Bowl never comes back next year to do anything.

I think you're onto something imgv.

I have another one!!

Detroit Lions Over 6.5

All they need to do is win 7 games? Looks easy!!!!

I like this one too. Lions are my sleeper pick so far this year.

[imgv94]

Originally Posted by slacker00

as I live right here in Wisconsin,

WHAT?

I thought you lived in Indiana??? You mentioned
after the Colts AFC semifinals lost to the Steelers
how the city was dead???

Hey I am going to PM you bro. I need a friend.

[slacker00]

Originally Posted by imgv94

WHAT?

I thought you lived in Indiana??? You mentioned
after the Colts AFC semifinals lost to the Steelers
how the city was dead???

Hey I am going to PM you bro. I need a friend.

Well, I've been back and forth. As for now, I'm a cheesehead. ugh.

[The Great One]

I'll have to be a homer and go with the Colts over 11.5

They've won at least 12 games during the regular season every year since the divisions got realligned.

This should finally be the year we go 19-0.

[The Great One]

Doesn't Cincy "over 9" look easy? I say this without looking at schedules.

The Titans under 5.5 is another one that looks good.

Teams like that never do well unless Volek comes out and is Peyton Manning. By week 10, hopefully they'll put Fumbles McScramble in and that will just about secure that bet.

[rm18]

If Carson Palmer is 100% off his torn ACl and does not get reinjured it should hit, if he is hurt it has no chance, same thing with the Bengals +3.5 first week against KC

[imgv94]

Originally Posted by The Great One

Doesn't Cincy "over 9" look easy? I say this without looking at schedules.

I think they will win 9 games. and that bet will push.

Cincy will either win 8-9 or 10 games.

8 if unlucky
9 if lucky
10 if very lucky.

[slacker00]

Originally Posted by The Great One

Doesn't Cincy "over 9" look easy? I say this without looking at schedules.

The Titans under 5.5 is another one that looks good.

Teams like that never do well unless Volek comes out and is Peyton Manning. By week 10, hopefully they'll put Fumbles McScramble in and that will just about secure that bet.

I'm staying away from Cincy, because it's really a bet on how Palmer looks after recovery. Kinda risky.

I do like the over on the Colts, but I worry that I am speaking from my heart rather than my brain, so I'm going to be cautious with that pick.

I would bet the under on the Titans if I knew Young would be playing much this year, but I think Volek will be pretty decent, enough to keep the starting job. I think the Titans are a mess, but 5 1/2 games isn't many. I can imagine them lucking out 6 games with their weak schedule.

[imgv94]

Hey how sure of you Colts fans(TGO/SLACKER) that
the Colts running game will be all that great????

[BuddyBear]

Trust me the only way the packers win 6 is if you count the preseason games and even then they may not get 6 wins...they may be one of the worst 4 or 5 teams in the leagues. Don't let the return of Favre fool you...very lousy team.

These things are a crapshoot personally and I can't imagine how someone can look at them and predict how a 16 game schedule is going to play out....seems almost impossible.

But the one that stands out the most is San Diego....this team is going through a transition with Rivers. Last year the team quit toward the end (a characteristic of Schottinheimer coached team) and with Rivers a new QB who may struggle it wouldn't be far-fetched to see another SD meltdown.....

I think Seattle 10.5 is interesting...they are still probably the team to beat in the NFC...but historically, teams in there situation experience a let down and they were a very poor road team and compund that with the West may be won early by them and that may lead them to rest key players in their final game or two....could end up at 10 or 11 exactly.

[imgv94]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

Trust me the only way the packers win 6 is if you count the preseason games and even then they may not get 6 wins...they may be one of the worst 4 or 5 teams in the leagues. Don't let the return of Favre fool you...very lousy team.

These things are a crapshoot personally and I can't imagine how someone can look at them and predict how a 16 game schedule is going to play out....seems almost impossible.

But the one that stands out the most is San Diego....this team is going through a transition with Rivers. Last year the team quit toward the end (a characteristic of Schottinheimer coached team) and with Rivers a new QB who may struggle it wouldn't be far-fetched to see another SD meltdown.....

I think Seattle 10.5 is interesting...they are still probably the team to beat in the NFC...but historically, teams in there situation experience a let down and they were a very poor road team and compund that with the West may be won early by them and that may lead them to rest key players in their final game or two....could end up at 10 or 11 exactly.

You know nothing about Football man. Green Bay is
not going to be a better team? They won 4 games
last season with many key injuries and without
Ahman Green. I guess the addition of A.J Hawk,
Charles Woodson won't help the Defense right?

And getting T/G Daryn Colledge from Boise State
and WR Greg Jennings from Western Michigan in
the 2nd round also didn't help. They were right there
in many games last season as well.

They will improve dramatically in Defense which
was their main problem last season and they
still play @ LAMBEAU field..

Don't argue football with me boy. Packers win 8 games
easy!!!!!

[slacker00]

imgv94, I hear your arguments about the Packers, but most of the players you named are ROOOOOOKIES. You can't call A.J. Hawk Brian Urhlacker just yet.... Besides, the Packers have a whole new coaching staff. The defense will take time to develop. Who knows what kind of defensive scheme they are planning after 3 different defensive coordinators in 3 seasons. The offensive line is another story that I cannot stress enough. Losing Flanagan, Rivera, Wahl, you can't replace these guys with rookie free agents. Favre will be on his back. Plus, they lost their best WR in Walker. Jennings could be good, but he's still an unknown. Green & Driver are overrated. Freddy Mitchell probably could have put up Driver's numbers last year, Favre didn't have anyone else to throw to. Here's the schedule with my win probability per game.


Sep 10 Chicago 4:15pm .35
Sep 17 New Orleans 1:00pm .5
Sep 24 @Detroit 1:00pm .35
Oct 2 @Philadelphia 8:30pm .25
Oct 8 St. Louis 1:00pm .4
Week 6 BYE
Oct 22 @Miami 1:00pm .3
Oct 29 Arizona 1:00pm .4
Nov 5 @Buffalo 1:00pm .45
Nov 12 @Minnesota 1:00pm .30
Nov 19 New England 1:00pm .25
Nov 27 @Seattle 8:30pm .25
Dec 3 N.Y. Jets 1:00pm .5
Dec 10 @San Francisco 4:05pm .40
Dec 17 Detroit 1:00pm .35
Dec 21 Minnesota 8:00pm .35
Dec 31 @Chicago 1:00pm .30

Those last 3 games might change if anyone wraps up playoff tiebreakers, but I think Detroit, Minnesota and Chicago will be in a dogfight down to the end for the division, so the Packers will just be lambs to the slaughter and those percentages will be even worse.

[imgv94]

Originally Posted by imgv94

Seahwaks Under 10.5 EASY!! Team that loses Super
Bowl never comes back next year to do anything.

Green Bay Over 6 EASY!! Much improved team! Lost 6
close games by less than 4pts. Looks like free money!!!

[imgv94]

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

Trust me the only way the packers win 6 is if you count the preseason games and even then they may not get 6 wins...they may be one of the worst 4 or 5 teams in the leagues. Don't let the return of Favre fool you...very lousy team.

Originally Posted by BuddyBear

But the one that stands out the most is San Diego....this team is going through a transition with Rivers. Last year the team quit toward the end (a characteristic of Schottinheimer coached team) and with Rivers a new QB who may struggle it wouldn't be far-fetched to see another SD meltdown.....

[imgv94]

Originally Posted by imgv94

I have another one!!

Detroit Lions Over 6.5

All they need to do is win 7 games? Looks easy!!!!

Terrible call horrible team

[onlòóker]

It seems like every year is going to be the Lions year to improve. But every year its the same old thing. Until Matt Millen is out, this will be a regular thing in the Motor City.