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    Default The team that has the most rushing yards wins 78% of the time

    Check this stat out..

    Teams with the most rushing yards...

    SU RECORDS

    Week 1: 12-4
    Week 2: 13-3
    Week 3: 9-5
    Week 4: 12-2
    Week 5: 10-4
    Week 6: 10-3
    Week 7: 11-1

    Overall 77-22 78%

    Interesting Statistic IMO... Run the ball and basically win the game almost 80% of the time...


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    Teams with leads (more so with big leads) tend to run more but still, 78% is pretty surprising. It's also funny because teams like Atlanta & Washington average some of the most ypg (222 & 128yds) while Carolina and Chicago are near the bottom (97 & 98yds per game).

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    Is there a way to handicap or determine what teams gets the most rushing yards?

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    Twominutewarning has power rankings based on this, and they throw out the meaningless yards, like when a team runs out the clock at the end of a game. That last thing alone will probably lower the percentage somewhat.

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    Instead of trying to find ways to downgrade this trend. How about considering the some other facts guys..

    Maybe the team with the more Rushing YDS has a better Offensive line.. Maybe the team is more balanced.. Maybe the team has a killer RB...

    Went 12-1 last week no fluke IMO...

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    Not trying to poo-poo the trend - sorry if it came out sounding that way.

    Another thing about this year...if you shopped for the lowest totals on every game and always bet over I believe you'd make a profit every week (sometimes a huge profit).

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    Don't remember who first said it but "when you pass, three things can happen, two of them bad." On the converse, logic would dictate that teams with better run defenses would be strong plays, will have to look at that later...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosuzieno
    Don't remember who first said it but "when you pass, three things can happen, two of them bad." On the converse, logic would dictate that teams with better run defenses would be strong plays, will have to look at that later...
    Top 5 rush defenses (ypg)

    1 Min
    2 Bal
    3 Chi
    4 Dal
    5 SD

    Bottom 5

    28 NYJ
    29 Cle
    30 TB
    31 Ind
    32 Tenn

    hmmm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by imgv94
    Instead of trying to find ways to downgrade this trend. How about considering the some other facts guys..

    Maybe the team with the more Rushing YDS has a better Offensive line.. Maybe the team is more balanced.. Maybe the team has a killer RB...

    Went 12-1 last week no fluke IMO...
    Agreed it is worth a look...More telling would be to compare nfl rushing rank both Off and Def PRIOR to those games and see if anything peeks out. Would suspect a team ranked higher in both would have excellent chance SU but had line compensated for it either directly or indirectly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosuzieno
    Don't remember who first said it but "when you pass, three things can happen, two of them bad." On the converse, logic would dictate that teams with better run defenses would be strong plays, will have to look at that later...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosuzieno
    Agreed it is worth a look...More telling would be to compare nfl rushing rank both Off and Def PRIOR to those games and see if anything peeks out. Would suspect a team ranked higher in both would have excellent chance SU but had line compensated for it either directly or indirectly?
    There is a fundamental problem with using stats this way...we're using averages so we need to decide if a team's A effort will show or B. Even if you figure in off/def, home/away, quality of opponent, etc.

    Case in point: I used a formula based on scoring (after all, the teams that score more win 100% of the time). I factored in all of the above but there is always a missing variable. I think maybe a couple games were close but in general I couldn't get an advantage. For instance Cincinnati should have beat Tampa something like 45-0.

    Not that others wouldn't be more successful. It's always fun to try.

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    I agree with fundamental error in stats like these because you have to get down to so many levels of variables like common opponents, and some of the other ones like you mentioned.

    When I looked at 2005, three of top rushing teams-kc, sd and den-all came from same division.hmm..5 of top 6 did make 2005 playoffs, but gave up on analyzing any further. .. Indy is now (again) 6-0, 4-2 ats, showing running and/or stopping the run not an exclusive determinative factor in victory.

    P.S. Would have settled for Cincy winning 13-7
    Last edited by nosuzieno; 10-24-06 at 10:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc JS
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    Thanks, would have guessed Lombardi...

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    Good input guys nonetheless.. conversation is always good..

    Keep it up fellas!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by imgv94
    Good input guys nonetheless.. conversation is always good..

    Keep it up fellas!!!
    I still think it is a stat worth comparing prior to betting and I appreciate you reminding me of it~

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    O.K these are the teams I expect to have more success running the ball this week...

    Tenn -150
    Phila -280
    ATL +192
    Giants -420
    Chic -1700
    GB -180
    KC -260
    NO -126
    SD -372
    Pitt -400
    Jets +111
    Den -138
    Dal +209


    NE/Minn Can't call...

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    i will definantly try to find the time to factor this lovely stat into my handicapping.
    in all my attempts to put together a handicapping method that could hold up over the test of time there was one stat i always thought would carry its own weight and even to the point of almost standing alone and that stat was 'avg. time of possession' that is time of poss. by the offense and time of poss. allowed by the defense pitted against that of the offensive and defensive t.o.p by the opposing team to come up with an idea of how much time one team can be expected to possess the ball over the other. i know theres a good handicapping factor in there somewhere

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    Ganch, what % of the leading rushing teams yards come in the late 3rd quarter/entire 4th quarter? Teams will huge leads sit on the ball and rushing stats can be misleading.

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    As Doc JS said, it was Prune Face that originally made that quote.
    FYI, this is one of the reasons Denver is such a ridiculously strong play this week, IMO.

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