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Old 12-19-08, 10:03 PM   #1
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Pittsburgh Steelers at Tennessee Titans

Yes, I did call the upset of the week last Sunday with the Texans over Titans in Houston. This Tennessee team has gotten away with winning too many close games this year and I knew they’d trip up in that spot on the road, at least that was some of the logic behind my “Play of the Year.” The Titans had all kinds of problems running and throwing the ball last week against Houston. How do you think they’ll fair against Pittsburgh? I guess they’re going to ask Collins to win this one with his arm, because I don‘t see Fat-Boy White and the Rookie running all over Pittsburgh in this one. The problem with that is, Pittsburgh has been solid against the pass all year and they’ve sacked the quarterback nearly 50 times this year .

In my opinion, Tennessee might be the worst 12-2 team I have ever seen! Think about this for a second, and I brought this up before the Houston game, Who the f*** has Tennessee beat this year (as of late) in a convincing fashion? And don’t tell me Detroit! To add to that, the Titans have bigger problems, Kyle Vanden Bosch and Albert Haynesworth will be watching this one from the sidelines on Sunday. I know the Steelers don’t have a great O-Line, but without Vanden Bosch and Haynesworth out there, I’d be absolutely shocked if Pittsburgh struggles running the ball. The Steelers have won a lot of close games this year so I don’t expect this one to be easy, but I do expect them to win by at least 6 or 7 points. This game is huge for both teams, home field advantage throughout the playoffs, in a conference that’s tough as hell right now!

Score Prediction: Steelers 20, Titans 13

Sunday’s Play: Steelers -2 (5 Units)



San Diego Chargers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

I’m going to keep this one short & sweet. I guess you could say that this is an interesting game at first glance, but the more you look into this one, the more you question the line. In the beginning of the week my local had this one set at TB -3. You can bet your a** I jumped all over that one! The Chargers were dominated by the Chiefs (21-3) for the better part of that game last Sunday. I had this game capped at about TB -7 or -6 at the least. So even at -3.5 or -4 I still see a lot of value in TB. It’s amazing to think that at 6-8, the Chargers are somehow still in the playoff picture?

Tampa Bay played a decent game at Atlanta last Sunday (with the exception of that piss poor Run-D). Brian Griese also played much better than I would have thought. So with the Buccaneers playing so poorly against the run surely LT will have a huge day against Tampa’s D right? Wrong, LT had 40 f****** yards on the ground vs. the Chiefs (ranked last in the league vs. the run). Alright then, Phillip Rivers to the rescue! Nope, Tampa hasn’t lost a step in their Pass-D, they picked off Matt Ryan twice last week on the road, so expect more of the same vs. the unpredictable Phillip Rivers.

We’re not really sure who’s going to get the nod at QB for Tampa, but I don’t think it really matters. Tampa should dominate this game, these west coast teams are f****** soft and they play like s*** on the east coast late in the year! I’m expecting a huge day out of the TB defense and solid performances by Williams, Dunn, Bryant, and Clayton. Furthermore I’ll take Gruden over Turner any day of the week. Throw all the bullshit trends out the f****** window in this one, Tampa Bay BIG.

Score Prediction: Buccaneers 27, Chargers 13

Sunday’s Play: Buccaneers -3 (5 Units)
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Latest news is that Garcia is starting. Yes, it does matter. Garcia is much better than Griese.
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Old 12-19-08, 10:17 PM   #3
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Latest news is that Garcia is starting. Yes, it does matter. Garcia is much better than Griese.
I don't give a flying f*** who's in there, TB should absolutely hammer this piss poor team at home! How in the hell did SD merit this joke of a line on the road @ TB?
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I don't give a flying f*** who's in there, TB should absolutely hammer this piss poor team at home! How in the hell did SD merit this joke of a line on the road @ TB?
SD was in the AFC Championship last year and probably would have given the Pats a better fight if their main offensive weapons weren't hobbled going into that game. SD basically returned the same team this year. SD is a quality team despite their 6-8 record this year. SD is still in the playoff picture, mathematically, and are expected to play like they are on the playoff bubble. Don't discount SD just because they are a few close games away from being in the driver's seat in the AFC West.

Calling SD "piss poor" is plain and simply ignorant.
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Old 12-19-08, 11:09 PM   #5
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SD was in the AFC Championship last year and probably would have given the Pats a better fight if their main offensive weapons weren't hobbled going into that game. SD basically returned the same team this year. SD is a quality team despite their 6-8 record this year. SD is still in the playoff picture, mathematically, and are expected to play like they are on the playoff bubble. Don't discount SD just because they are a few close games away from being in the driver's seat in the AFC West.

Calling SD "piss poor" is plain and simply ignorant.

I think it's logical, this is also a much different team without Sean Merriman, he was the rock of that defense. SD's offense just hasn't looked very good this year at all and Tomlinson has declined severely, to say the least!

I said I would ignore the stats but lets look at them anyway, and I'm going to focus on defense here.

San Diego's Defense on the Road: They allow 24 ppg, 381 total yards, 268 yards in the air & 113 yards on the ground.

Tampa Bay's Defense at Home:
They allow 13 ppg, 236 total yards, 166 yards in the air & 70 yards on the ground.

Differentials on Defense:
11 ppg, 145 total yards, 102 in the air and 43 on the ground.
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Old 12-19-08, 11:18 PM   #6
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I agree with the steelers, but instead of Tampa I would slide NE or Houston in there instead!
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Old 12-20-08, 12:19 AM   #7
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I agree with you with Tampa. I seen virtually every Chargers game, and this team is very average. One thing is certain, the Chargers can't stop anyone on Offense. This is not the same team that played the Pats. They have yet to play with any cohesiveness as a unit all season, that would explain why they have struggle against the horrible Chiefs twice in a row.
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"Calling SD "piss poor" is plain and simply ignorant. "

You're right.. "piss poor" is wrong... its more like HAHAAHAHAH PISS POOR !!!
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If you think a 6-8 team is capable of going INTO Tampa and winning, thats just crazy. I LOVE both these plays, Im on em HUGE!!!
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Old 12-20-08, 01:32 AM   #10
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If you think a 6-8 team is capable of going INTO Tampa and winning, thats just crazy. I LOVE both these plays, Im on em HUGE!!!
Unit don't forget the games they lost in the last seconds. They are not really a 6-8 team

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Old 12-20-08, 02:49 AM   #11
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Doesnt matter what their record is. The FACTS are that they barely, and I mean BARELY beat KC last week, They cannot and will not go into TB and win the game.

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Old 12-20-08, 03:01 AM   #12
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The game that they barely lost evens out with the games they barely one. They beat KC the 1st time because KC failed a two point conversion at the end in SD. And the other one, everybody knows was a fluke. KC best receiver couldn't hold on an onside kick and they end up winning. That KC game was a Must win and they failed miserable. This game is a Must Win for SD, but they're going against a real team. Despite Tampa losing two in a row, it against two of the NFC best. At least Tampa has an excuse in their loses. You don't barely beat a 2 win KC team in a Must win situation and expect to beat a 6-0 team at home that has been consistent the whole year. The Bucs won 9 games for a reason, it's because they don't suck like the overrated public favorite Chargers.
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Agree on Steelers

Cant join you on TB. Garcia or no Garcia they still have problems generating offense. I know Hovan comes back this week but I just cant trust a team that has played two piss poor games in a row and earlier in the season let Brad "frickin" Johnson beat them.

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Old 12-20-08, 09:27 AM   #14
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San Diego is my favorite pick this Sunday.

Good luck though!
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San Diego is my favorite pick this Sunday.

Good luck though!

Nice call on the Jacksonville game Dave. I know they didn't cover or pull off the upset, but they sure did put up a hell of a fight, more than what I expected. Thankfully, I was on the other side.

BOL this week my friend, but Tampa takes this one!
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Nice call on the Jacksonville game Dave. I know they didn't cover or pull off the upset, but they sure did put up a hell of a fight, more than what I expected. Thankfully, I was on the other side.

BOL this week my friend, but Tampa takes this one!
Its funny, everyone is giving me hell and calling me an idiot for that one. If not for a three-and-out, pick six, sack out of FG range with 4 mins to go, AND a sack to end the game leading to a 17 - 0 quarter, I win and people say nice pick. Instead, ALL those things happen, I lose, and it was a dumb pick.

So strange. Thanks for taking the high road. GL this weekend!
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Old 12-20-08, 11:15 AM   #17
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I like both plays Riggs but instead of TB,I'm loading up on the Steelers and Pats!!GL!
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Its funny, everyone is giving me hell and calling me an idiot for that one. If not for a three-and-out, pick six, sack out of FG range with 4 mins to go, AND a sack to end the game leading to a 17 - 0 quarter, I win and people say nice pick. Instead, ALL those things happen, I lose, and it was a dumb pick.

So strange. Thanks for taking the high road. GL this weekend!
I was on Jax as well Dave and felt the heat as well.BOL this weekend dave!
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San Diego is my favorite pick this Sunday.

Good luck though!

Why?


I'm very curious to find out!
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Write up is here: http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...-write-up.html

Long story short? I love fading teams that are favorites after three straight division rivalry games. The physical and emotional toll of division rivalry games, multiplied by 3, its so hard to be at your physical and emotional best after stretches like that, especially late in the season. They are just generally let down opportunity type games.
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I got Steelers moneyline even money earlier in the week. Then I wussed out and did a teaser to get Chiefs +10 and Tamba +3.5. Depending on how I do with those early games and my Ravens +7 tonight, I'll probably hit Houston -7 over Oakland.
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Riggs, are you telling me the Titans are more overrated than Pitt???? The Steelers have been the luckiest ****ers in the history of football this year. They shouldn't be even close to where they are. They won't make it far in the playoffs, but I do think they beat the Titans tommorow. Without Haynesworth and Vanden Bosch, the Titans are really going to struggle up front IMO.
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Riggs, are you telling me the Titans are more overrated than Pitt???? The Steelers have been the luckiest ****ers in the history of football this year. They shouldn't be even close to where they are. They won't make it far in the playoffs, but I do think they beat the Titans tommorow. Without Haynesworth and Vanden Bosch, the Titans are really going to struggle up front IMO.
Bingo!!!
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San Diego is my favorite pick this Sunday.

Good luck though!
Dave likes to play on the wild side.
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Dave likes to play on the wild side.
I like Dave but I think he's off on this one. The Bucs play like monsters at home. And now with Garcia in there too!

Lock it up.
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I like Dave but I think he's off on this one. The Bucs play like monsters at home. And now with Garcia in there too!

Lock it up.
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Write up is here: http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...-write-up.html

Long story short? I love fading teams that are favorites after three straight division rivalry games. The physical and emotional toll of division rivalry games, multiplied by 3, its so hard to be at your physical and emotional best after stretches like that, especially late in the season. They are just generally let down opportunity type games.
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Lets get it tommorow boys! im with you alll day !
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San Diego Chargers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

I’m going to keep this one short & sweet. I guess you could say that this is an interesting game at first glance, but the more you look into this one, the more you question the line. In the beginning of the week my local had this one set at TB -3. You can bet your a** I jumped all over that one! The Chargers were dominated by the Chiefs (21-3) for the better part of that game last Sunday. I had this game capped at about TB -7 or -6 at the least. So even at -3.5 or -4 I still see a lot of value in TB. It’s amazing to think that at 6-8, the Chargers are somehow still in the playoff picture?

Tampa Bay played a decent game at Atlanta last Sunday (with the exception of that piss poor Run-D). Brian Griese also played much better than I would have thought. So with the Buccaneers playing so poorly against the run surely LT will have a huge day against Tampa’s D right? Wrong, LT had 40 f****** yards on the ground vs. the Chiefs (ranked last in the league vs. the run). Alright then, Phillip Rivers to the rescue! Nope, Tampa hasn’t lost a step in their Pass-D, they picked off Matt Ryan twice last week on the road, so expect more of the same vs. the unpredictable Phillip Rivers.

We’re not really sure who’s going to get the nod at QB for Tampa, but I don’t think it really matters. Tampa should dominate this game, these west coast teams are f****** soft and they play like s*** on the east coast late in the year! I’m expecting a huge day out of the TB defense and solid performances by Williams, Dunn, Bryant, and Clayton. Furthermore I’ll take Gruden over Turner any day of the week. Throw all the bullshit trends out the f****** window in this one, Tampa Bay BIG.

Score Prediction: Buccaneers 27, Chargers 13

Sunday’s Play: Buccaneers -3 (5 Units)

- West Coast Teams playing on the Atlantic Coast at 1:00 PM are 28-44 ATS since 2002 (Norv Turner 0-3 with the Chargers, and 1-5 ATS in second consecutive road games).

- This year West Coast teams are a combined 1-19 when they play in the Eastern Time Zone. The large majority of those games were played at 1:00 p.m. ET. The Bucs-Chargers game will be at 1:00 p.m. ET.

- Even if you look at the 2007 season. West Coast teams were 4-16 when they played in the Eastern Time Zone.

- The Bucs are a perfect 6-0 at home this season

- Chargers are 2-5 on the road.

- The Bucs have outscored their opponents by 11.1 ppg at home this season.

- Tampa Bay is 22-8 ATS in home games after gaining 99 or less rushing yards in 2 straight games over the past 16 years.

- Plays on any team outscoring opponents by an average of 4 or more points per game, after scoring and allowing only 14 pts or less are 30-10 ATS over the last 5 years.

- Statistically there's no way in hell you should make a play on SD in this spot. San Diego's Defense on the Road: They allow 24 ppg, 381 total yards, 268 yards in the air & 113 yards on the ground. Tampa Bay's Defense at Home: They allow 13 ppg, 236 total yards, 166 yards in the air & 70 yards on the ground. Differentials on Defense: 11 ppg, 145 total yards, 102 in the air and 43 on the ground.

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San Diego Chargers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers

I’m going to keep this one short & sweet. I guess you could say that this is an interesting game at first glance, but the more you look into this one, the more you question the line. In the beginning of the week my local had this one set at TB -3. You can bet your a** I jumped all over that one! The Chargers were dominated by the Chiefs (21-3) for the better part of that game last Sunday. I had this game capped at about TB -7 or -6 at the least. So even at -3.5 or -4 I still see a lot of value in TB. It’s amazing to think that at 6-8, the Chargers are somehow still in the playoff picture?



Score Prediction: Buccaneers 27, Chargers 13

Sunday’s Play: Buccaneers -3 (5 Units)


Tampa Bay went to KC in week 9 and got completely dominated by the Chiefs. Tampa was down 24-3 in the 3rd Quarter before KC fell apart.
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Old 12-21-08, 12:29 PM   #31
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Good luck to you Riggs!!! I'm on Cincin, New Orleans, Miami, New england, San Fran, Pitts, Tampa Bay

Everything I see I love today if those do well I'll be on Denver, Houston, Seattle, Atlanta, Philly, NY giants

and if those do well I'll be on GB
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I went big on these same plays, I hope they come through in the end today.
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