12-15-08, 02:45 PM
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Leans for Sunday 12/21/08
Okay good weekend last week, with the only loss coming from the Ravens in a game that I felt they should have won outright.This weekI wish to build up steam for the upcoming playoffs. I have not had time to monitor lines that much obviously, but here's my early leans on games for this upcoming week.
Ravens+5 Saturday Special (PC Play)
Teams that beat the previous years' Champions are to faded if the team playing them the following week is a team above .500. That means that te Ravens will take care of business. I doubt that the Cowboys are ready to play another team that has a defense as fast as their offense again for the 3rd consecutive week. teams tha beat the previous years champions playing againt a team that is over .400 and accompanied by a over/under line that is less than 41 points are 2-19-1 ats. This is a perfect spot for the Cowboys to be faded, and this is a certifiable PC Play. PC Plays are now 9-3 after the Cowboys win against the G-Men on Sunday night .
Always bet a team that has lost three in a row and always fade a team that has won three in a row. Such is the case with the Redskins/Eagles matchup. The Redskins are going nowhere fast, and it would be nothing better than to help derail the Eagles playoff train. At the time of this post, the Eagles have not played the Browns, but I am certain that they will win that game, maybe not cover, but that they will win the game straight up at the very least. I am not expecting to be on the majority on this pick given the ats record of Philadelphia playing in Washington, and the consensus will be all the way in Philly's favor believe me. So I will take the Redskins to get the sweep over the Eagles this year. Any points given to the Redskins in his game are too many. They better not be a home dog. The line is not out yet at the time of this post.
Redskins-1.5 (projected)
The G-Men will pulverize the Carolina Panthers in this game. The last two times the Panthers faced the Giants in New York they beat them outright, and the early returns of the consensus show 88 to 12%. I absolutely love the Giants in this position. Always take a team when their stock is low. And with the public all on the Panthers after their success of the past few weeks and so on I will back the G-Men in this one. The Panthers have already clinched a playoff spot and so have the Giants. This game will restore the confidence of the New York media in the Boys in Blue.
Giants -2.5 (buying a hook to alleviate a push if the game is decided by a field goal)
Other notables that I like:
Tennessee-1
They are 4-1 straight up at home against the Steelers. The line reflects a straight up victory by either side (1). I will take my chances with the Titans in a statement game. The Ravens have exposed the Steelers offensive line, and were it not for a late game drive by the Men of Steel, the Ravens had them beat. Big Ben is a great quarterback, but the offensive line is not a strong as it once was. If Albert Haynesworth plays this is a tough game for the Steelers to win on the road, especially since this is their second consecutive road game.
Last edited by cocknocker; 12-15-08 at 03:01 PM.
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12-16-08, 01:13 AM
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I can't wait for the PC Play to get the Christmas bonus
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12-16-08, 04:45 PM
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definitely like the ravens, but i can't fade the eagles... they are playing great ball and if there's one thing i believe in in the NFL, it's momentum... WAS is 1-5 in their last 6 and they just aren't playing solid ball... the key to their early season success was perfection in the turnover battle. Well now teams are figuring out what they're trying to do as zorn's tricks aren't so old any more and the eagles have a much superior more physical defense. They can get after a QB in waqys the skins can only dream of, and their defense is on fire. That's when you know they're syncing up, when they win games with defense. Yeah they looked vulnerable against the browns, but still blew them out. I'm just saying, these teams are riding contradicting waves of momentum, and if there's one thing i know about the eagles, it's fade em in the mid season, and play them late. I just can't fathom putting my money on the garbage ass skins, if they're not playin perfect mistake free football, they are just straight outclassed and outtalented by the eagles... i may lay off this game all together if they eagles are favored by too much, but i just see that game against dallas lining up as the only time to consider fading the eagles. Also, i think that's the reason that this play is still off my books, Too many ppl will be on the eagles, so they're trying to slow down the action in that game.
thinking about playing the chiefs as the dolphins just don't blow teams out and with arrowhead being a tough place to play, it might take a late game FG to pull the W. This game just reeks of weird and i can't play the dolphins as road favorites just yet. They win, but don't dominate. Plus thigpen is doing a good job of keeping the chiefs in games and their defense has manned up a bit lately.
KC+4 (or more)
Also, seriously considering a play on the lions... everyone will be fading them on general principle, but the saints are just a bad road team playing against a desparate squad who actually shows up to play lately... Also the saints season is over after failing to get it done in chicago, so this game won't even mean as much to them...
DET +7 (small ML play)
probably leaning on tenessee too... that line caved in with public response and we might even be able to get a field goal on insurance. also, thinking jags... taking the colts off the turf and this is jacksonville's last meaningful game of the season.
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12-16-08, 05:22 PM
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I'm thinking about doing a small .5U play on the Lions ML and a 1U play on the +7, just because they have looked strong since their beatdown by TEN and NO is so bad on the road. They do not want to go winless, so they will definitely be putting everything into this game. They're almost out of options. Just a gut play
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12-16-08, 09:13 PM
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nice write ups... think about this game It might be Detroit's last shot at a WIN.(they gotta roll to Green Bay to do battle after New Orleans)
I had the SAINTS+3 last week. So i got my $ back, but I think they are due for a good ticket.
NEW ORLEANS -7 @ DETROIT
DETROIT is using a 3rd string QB
DETROIT has allowed 444 points < SAINTS allowed 353
DETROIT has forward 240 points < SAINTS forward 390
SAINTS LOSS LAST WEEK AND ENDED THEIR PLAYOFF REALITY HOPES
SAINTS can mathematically make the playoffs with atl and tb losing next to weekends
SAINTS LEAD every divisional opponent in points per game
SAINTS LEAD every divisional opponent in yards per game
SAINTS LEAD every divisional opponent in passing yards per game
SAINTS LEAD detroit in all of the above and many more.
in fact NEW ORLEANS offense leads the nFL in yards & passing yards, points per game
they are 45% on 3rd down (2nd best).
Im sick of looking at all the stats for this one... straight up blow out @ -7. I would take Detroit on any other spread of maybe... 27.5 or 28. hehehe The saints are way too powerful for the mighty Lions defense.
a QB is so important that as a coach I would give up a man on offense for a leauge leading bad-ass QB.
ANY DAY on the road or at home. - Will
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12-17-08, 03:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alittlemoresound
SAINTS can mathematically make the playoffs with atl and tb losing next to weekends
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philly, dallas, and chicago are all still ahead of them in the playoff picture too... yeah they're mathematically alive, but they need 4 teams to lose 1+ games... i doubt they're kidding themselves with that by now. They may still try, but as good as those numbers look, they include a lot of their home games, which are on turf, unlike detroit's home field.
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12-17-08, 10:40 AM
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Saints are toast homies. They will be watching playoff gams just like us
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12-17-08, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cocknocker
Okay good weekend last week, with the only loss coming from the Ravens in a game that I felt they should have won outright.This weekI wish to build up steam for the upcoming playoffs. I have not had time to monitor lines that much obviously, but here's my early leans on games for this upcoming week.
Ravens+5 Saturday Special (PC Play)
Teams that beat the previous years' Champions are to faded if the team playing them the following week is a team above .500. That means that te Ravens will take care of business. I doubt that the Cowboys are ready to play another team that has a defense as fast as their offense again for the 3rd consecutive week. teams tha beat the previous years champions playing againt a team that is over .400 and accompanied by a over/under line that is less than 41 points are 2-19-1 ats. This is a perfect spot for the Cowboys to be faded, and this is a certifiable PC Play. PC Plays are now 9-3 after the Cowboys win against the G-Men on Sunday night .
Always bet a team that has lost three in a row and always fade a team that has won three in a row. Such is the case with the Redskins/Eagles matchup. The Redskins are going nowhere fast, and it would be nothing better than to help derail the Eagles playoff train. At the time of this post, the Eagles have not played the Browns, but I am certain that they will win that game, maybe not cover, but that they will win the game straight up at the very least. I am not expecting to be on the majority on this pick given the ats record of Philadelphia playing in Washington, and the consensus will be all the way in Philly's favor believe me. So I will take the Redskins to get the sweep over the Eagles this year. Any points given to the Redskins in his game are too many. They better not be a home dog. The line is not out yet at the time of this post.
Redskins-1.5 (projected)
The G-Men will pulverize the Carolina Panthers in this game. The last two times the Panthers faced the Giants in New York they beat them outright, and the early returns of the consensus show 88 to 12%. I absolutely love the Giants in this position. Always take a team when their stock is low. And with the public all on the Panthers after their success of the past few weeks and so on I will back the G-Men in this one. The Panthers have already clinched a playoff spot and so have the Giants. This game will restore the confidence of the New York media in the Boys in Blue.
Giants -2.5 (buying a hook to alleviate a push if the game is decided by a field goal)
Other notables that I like:
Tennessee-1
They are 4-1 straight up at home against the Steelers. The line reflects a straight up victory by either side (1). I will take my chances with the Titans in a statement game. The Ravens have exposed the Steelers offensive line, and were it not for a late game drive by the Men of Steel, the Ravens had them beat. Big Ben is a great quarterback, but the offensive line is not a strong as it once was. If Albert Haynesworth plays this is a tough game for the Steelers to win on the road, especially since this is their second consecutive road game.
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I really like your picks. The only one I am unsure of is the Steelers pick. I feel that theyre an underrated team, although Tennessee if a great team this year. They do have the edge with it being a home game. Will your bet still be Tennessee if Haynesworth is out?
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12-18-08, 05:33 AM
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and not to beat a dead horse, but having watched espn's ticker, the saints are mathematically eliminated...
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12-18-08, 05:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cocknocker
I can't wait for the PC Play to get the Christmas bonus
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ML-ing this one? I want the points for most of my money, but i think the ML might be a decent look
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12-18-08, 10:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cocknocker
Okay good weekend last week, with the only loss coming from the Ravens in a game that I felt they should have won outright.This weekI wish to build up steam for the upcoming playoffs. I have not had time to monitor lines that much obviously, but here's my early leans on games for this upcoming week.
Ravens+5 Saturday Special (PC Play)
Teams that beat the previous years' Champions are to faded if the team playing them the following week is a team above .500. That means that te Ravens will take care of business. I doubt that the Cowboys are ready to play another team that has a defense as fast as their offense again for the 3rd consecutive week. teams tha beat the previous years champions playing againt a team that is over .400 and accompanied by a over/under line that is less than 41 points are 2-19-1 ats. This is a perfect spot for the Cowboys to be faded, and this is a certifiable PC Play. PC Plays are now 9-3 after the Cowboys win against the G-Men on Sunday night .
Always bet a team that has lost three in a row and always fade a team that has won three in a row. Such is the case with the Redskins/Eagles matchup. The Redskins are going nowhere fast, and it would be nothing better than to help derail the Eagles playoff train. At the time of this post, the Eagles have not played the Browns, but I am certain that they will win that game, maybe not cover, but that they will win the game straight up at the very least. I am not expecting to be on the majority on this pick given the ats record of Philadelphia playing in Washington, and the consensus will be all the way in Philly's favor believe me. So I will take the Redskins to get the sweep over the Eagles this year. Any points given to the Redskins in his game are too many. They better not be a home dog. The line is not out yet at the time of this post.
Redskins-1.5 (projected)
The G-Men will pulverize the Carolina Panthers in this game. The last two times the Panthers faced the Giants in New York they beat them outright, and the early returns of the consensus show 88 to 12%. I absolutely love the Giants in this position. Always take a team when their stock is low. And with the public all on the Panthers after their success of the past few weeks and so on I will back the G-Men in this one. The Panthers have already clinched a playoff spot and so have the Giants. This game will restore the confidence of the New York media in the Boys in Blue.
Giants -2.5 (buying a hook to alleviate a push if the game is decided by a field goal)
Other notables that I like:
Tennessee-1
They are 4-1 straight up at home against the Steelers. The line reflects a straight up victory by either side (1). I will take my chances with the Titans in a statement game. The Ravens have exposed the Steelers offensive line, and were it not for a late game drive by the Men of Steel, the Ravens had them beat. Big Ben is a great quarterback, but the offensive line is not a strong as it once was. If Albert Haynesworth plays this is a tough game for the Steelers to win on the road, especially since this is their second consecutive road game.
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ck, uaually agree with everything you say and feel, but wash has mailed it in.....portis and the coach hate each other and theis team is going nowhere. philly has rallied around mcnabb and looks great. i think even thou your numbers say redskins, the team on a mission is philly. good luck. zack.
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12-18-08, 10:46 AM
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Thanks for the great write ups. I really like Balt and NYG this week. Not to sure about Wash and Tenn though.
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12-18-08, 10:55 AM
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Washington is cooked. I like the other picks but I consider the Skins to be the NFC East equivalent of the Jags - plenty of talent but too much internal drama and lack of passion. I see Philly winning this game in style by 10pts.
I like the Ravens pick. The boys only tacked on that last TD late vs the Giants. I think their D is strong enough to keep Dallas at bay. Feels like a gift to be getting points here.
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12-18-08, 11:54 AM
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Wang, i am also making a small play on the moneyline, too. I don't think that Romo will be standing by the end of this game. The Ravens don't throw the ball enough to make the Dallas pass rush be super effective. it kind of negates the strengths of their defense. I also think that a small play on the under would be an intelligent decision too, as the Ravens will shorten the game with their style of play
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12-18-08, 12:04 PM
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Consensus report time
With 85% of the money on the Steelers, the line is in their favor as a 2 point favorite now I will be buying a point and playing the Titans+3 if this trend continues.
The Eagles have 87% of bettors on their side and the line is still at -5. I am waiting for this line to jump to 6, (and it will with only 13% on the Skins) and then I will take the Skins+7 on Sunday by adding a point.
The Ravens have 35% of bettors on their side, and the line dropped from 5 to 4 which is a great sign for the PC Play! No need to buy any points on this one.Matter of fact, i will be taking the Ravens moneyline as well.
The Giants have 45% of bettors on their side, and the line has stayed stiff as a board. I really love getting them in this position. This gamewon't be for the faint at heart. The Panthers are only 3-3 on the road this year with their wins coming against San Diego, Oakland and Green bay; teams with a a collective record of 14-28. They are not in the same league with the Giants. I will buy the Giants down to -2.5
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12-18-08, 03:42 PM
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Thursday:
The public is right! Horshoes tonight! I have them at -6, and I am conficent in this play!
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12-18-08, 04:41 PM
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in response to the skins, you got a line that could be winnable there. I'm staying off the spread for this one, but i almost guarantee the eagles win this one, so much so that i will parlay them moneyline with another team. Skins COULD keep this close, but i guarantee reid and mcnabb will have a gameplan that will make things very hard on the skins and they are MUCH softer on both sides of the ball than the eagles. Philly may let a little back door cover slip in if they run prevent D like they did against the giants late to let them sneak within 6 before it was all said and done.
I think i'm with you on tennessee and new york though... pitt is just eeking things out on the road and 3 pts is plenty of security if pitt BS's their way to another victory.
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12-19-08, 04:21 PM
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Okay, Wang,
I am off of the Skins. You have convinced me. I will let it go and ride with the 49ers, although the Bills are looking very promising to me now with how bad they are being perceived. I actually think that they have a chance to win this game outright. Cutler is careless with the ball, and has been prone to turn over the ball in key situations. The Bills showed last week against the Jets that they have something that they want to accomplish this season. I was impressed with their speed in that game. The 49ers are 3-3 straight up and 5-1 ats in their last 6 games. They are really playing their hearts out for Coach Singletary, although there is little left to play for this year. Their offense is better than the Rams and their defense is much better than anyone expected. So for the time being, here's my updated list:
Giants-2.5 (hook buy)
Titans+3 (1 point buy)
49ers-5.5
Bills+7.5 (1 point buy)
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12-20-08, 03:08 AM
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I absolutely love my plays, and I am sticking to the script. I won't be changing any of them and I am ready for Sunday with no problems to report
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12-20-08, 06:12 AM
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it seems like you buy a lot of points...why is this?
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12-20-08, 10:00 PM
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eidolon,
Because I can afford to. I place winning percentage over -110 losses. Quick question for you too...Why don't you buy any points? My good man, if it is not too much to ask...Give me some insight on a game or an intelligent question about handicapping next time please. That's like me asking you why do you buy so many things for your girlfriend, or how come you only fill your tank up halfway instead of all the way to full...It's all about preferences and what people do with their money, gabeesh?
Anyway,
I like the Bucs a little too right now. I may make a play for them tomorrow too. I like the position they are in after having two straight losses. What say you about that?
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12-20-08, 11:13 PM
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CK, I know you already placed your plays but Haynesworth and Vanden Bosch are out for tomorrow's game against the Steelers.
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12-21-08, 12:14 AM
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I haven't placed my plays yet, but i do know that those two gentlemen are out for tomorrow. Their production will be replaced by another player who's been anxiously waiting on the side.
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12-21-08, 11:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cocknocker
I haven't placed my plays yet, but i do know that those two gentlemen are out for tomorrow. Their production will be replaced by another player who's been anxiously waiting on the side.
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And you're comfortable with two of the best in the league sitting against a potent run attack?
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