[dle]

Crunched some numbers and came up about 4 points short of the O/U for the game on Thursday.

[dle]

Opinions?

[guru-t]

I love this game under.Both have struggled to score any points of signifigance.I also like the Raiders+10.I know its the Raiders,but look at Sdiego.There about to mail it in like the Jags and at this point they have no business giving anybody DDigits.Home or away!Well,maybe the LIONS.But certainly not a divisional opponent.

[bobby smith]

I like the raiders and the under in this one too...BUT

I hate the fact that LT always seems to play big in games vs oakland.

I really like the under and I want to pick the raiders but they burnt soo many times. But like the guru said 10 is a big number and chargers remind me of jags right now...

Any other opinions?

[guru-t]

Originally Posted by bobby smith

I like the raiders and the under in this one too...BUT

I hate the fact that LT always seems to play big in games vs oakland.

I really like the under and I want to pick the raiders but they burnt soo many times. But like the guru said 10 is a big number and chargers remind me of jags right now...

Any other opinions?

[pimike]

Chargers believe they are still in it. I expect them to come out strong and win big, I mean Big.

THEY MAY GET 40 THEMSELVES HERE. THEY WILL PLAY TO KILL SOMEBODY AND THE RAIDERS WILL BE THAT TEAM.


CHARGERS PLAY FOR SURE, BE CAREFUL WITH THE TOTAL HERE. IF UNDER IT WILL BE 40-0

[guru-t]

Norv needs to get Rivers a pacifier first and foremost.

[pimike]

Originally Posted by guru-t

Norv needs to get Rivers a pacifier first and foremost.

[bobby smith]

the charges have lost 5 of the last 6 games...
They havent scored more than 20 points in their last 4 games
Plus its coming off a short week
The raiders held the broncos to 10 2 weeks ago in Denver and they have alot better offense than the charges...

[guru-t]

I'll just play the under even though I think the Raiders are the play here.SD could possibly take out some frustration on the Raiders and actually play a good game for once.I'll guard against that and go under.

[pimike]

Originally Posted by bobby smith

the charges have lost 5 of the last 6 games...
They havent scored more than 20 points in their last 4 games
Plus its coming off a short week
The raiders held the broncos to 10 2 weeks ago in Denver and they have alot better offense than the charges...

CHARGERS WILL WIN, ITS YOUR MONEY.

[bobby smith]

True - they might win but will they cover 10?

[pimike]

Originally Posted by bobby smith

True - they might win but will they cover 10?

I'm putting 1,500.00 on it. It is 9.5 right now

[bobby smith]

I hate betting on the Raiders too - ever since that superbowl vs TB.

And LT always has huge games vs the raiders.

But they lost by 10 in week 4. Raiders had no Justin Fargas and McFadden was banged up.

Im not trying to instigate or anything but what makes u soo sure the Charges will win to bet 1500? Thats alot of money so u must be pretty sure...

[pimike]

Originally Posted by bobby smith

I hate betting on the Raiders too - ever since that superbowl vs TB.

And LT always has huge games vs the raiders.

But they lost by 10 in week 4. Raiders had no Justin Fargas and McFadden was banged up.

Im not trying to instigate or anything but what makes u soo sure the Charges will win to bet 1500? Thats alot of money so u must be pretty sure...

Teams get to a point where they will take it out on someone. The raiders did play Denver well, but that was a fluke.

Chargers will not lose at home three games in a row.

Also they score double the amount of points the raiders do per game.

more importantly: thye have not covered 6 games in a row. I'm counting Steelers as a no cover do to the bad call.

They are do to put a hurting on someone.

[bobby smith]

well said - you made a good argument

are you staying away from the over/under?

[pimike]

Originally Posted by bobby smith

well said - you made a good argument

are you staying away from the over/under?

As of tonight I am. Remember Chargers did beat Raiders by 10 in Oakland.

Shit Raiders turned around after Denvers game and lost at home to Kansas City of all people.

I hear a lot of talk radio about Turner letting Rivers pretty much call his own plays. They will score.

[bobby smith]

yea the finally score was 28-18. Thats 46. Chargers scored 25 in the 4th to win.

If the Raiders kicked an FG instead of giving up a touchdown on the 1 stupid trick play - thats a 10 point shift

but who's to say Cable wont do something stupid like that again

Im on fence on both the under and the game now...

[pimike]

Originally Posted by bobby smith

yea the finally score was 28-18. Thats 46. Chargers scored 25 in the 4th to win.

If the Raiders kicked an FG instead of giving up a touchdown on the 1 stupid trick play - thats a 10 point shift

but who's to say Cable wont do something stupid like that again

Im on fence on both the under and the game now...

Only thing that sits in the back of my mind is the fav won every game on Thanksgiving, then Sunday night and Monday night they won as well. So Charges as fav does scare me in that respect.

[bobby smith]

I honestly believe SD will win but I dont know if they will cover.
The Raiders havent won in SD in like forever I believe...

Thats a good trend you noticed

[KG]

I feel the Bolts are due for a win. But also Oakland fluctuates so much and they are going to be looking for revenge from they're week 4 loss. I think if Oakland can make some decent passing plays they can keep it close. This is a rivalry game and I see it being a great game. Bolts win but Raiders cover the spread.

[kroyrunner89]

Originally Posted by pimike

Chargers believe they are still in it. I expect them to come out strong and win big, I mean Big.

THEY MAY GET 40 THEMSELVES HERE. THEY WILL PLAY TO KILL SOMEBODY AND THE RAIDERS WILL BE THAT TEAM.


CHARGERS PLAY FOR SURE, BE CAREFUL WITH THE TOTAL HERE. IF UNDER IT WILL BE 40-0

shouldn't last week have been the week the chargers came out ready to kill thinking they're still in it? didn't happen, and still won't happen. the raiders actually have a good defense, its their offense that is awful. i'm really liking the under here, i just don't think a sd blowout is going to happen

[pimike]

Originally Posted by kroyrunner89

shouldn't last week have been the week the chargers came out ready to kill thinking they're still in it? didn't happen, and still won't happen. the raiders actually have a good defense, its their offense that is awful. I'm really liking the under here, i just don't think a sd blowout is going to happen

Please don't compare ATLANTA with the raiders. Two different teams a complete different situation. Did I saw they will make the playoffs, no, I am not sure, however they think they're still alive and therefore will kill the Raiders.

They hate the Raiders this game will be a blow out. But hey you like the Raiders its your money my friend.

[bobby smith]

raiders cant score
charges cant score much either

Nice point about the chargers not playing good last week.

[Dark Horse]

Chargers are done. In the three home games before the bye they scored an average of 31 pts. In the three home games since the bye they scored just 19 pts per game. And they got a new defensive coordinator...

Their main problem is that they start games bad (3-9 ATS for 1H) and finish games bad. In almost every game all their focus is on a 2H comeback, and then they blame the ref or their luck when they fall just short. The last air went out of the balloon in the late loss against the Steelers (10-11). They're just going through the motions now. They have one come-from-behind win; against the Raiders. Of course...

May put some on SD 1H. Just to go against their own worst trend. Nah. Bunch of sh*tty underachievers.

[kroyrunner89]

Originally Posted by pimike

Please don't compare ATLANTA with the raiders. Two different teams a complete different situation. Did I saw they will make the playoffs, no, I am not sure, however they think they're still alive and therefore will kill the Raiders.

They hate the Raiders this game will be a blow out. But hey you like the Raiders its your money my friend.

hey now, i never said i liked the raiders, i'm probably not going to bet the spread. all i said was i like oakland to not get blown out enough so badly that this game goes over. i'd be surprised if SD didn't win straight up, but i don't see them hitting 28 points in this game. and comparing oakland and atlanta's defenses, here's some food for thought.

Atlanta:
20.17 points against per game
Atlanta's opponents average 22.88 points per game
6.12 yards per pass attempt against
Atlanta's opponents average 6.29 yards per pass attempt
4.81 yards per rush attempt against
Atlanta's opponents average 4.29 yards per rush attempt

Oakland:
22.08 points against per game
Oakland's opponents average 23.52 points per game
6.15 yards per pass attempt against
Oakland's opponents average 6.69 yards per pass attempt
4.61 yards per rush attempt against
Oakland's opponents average 4.29 yards per rush attempt


So, as you can see, Oakland's and Atlanta's defenses are pretty similar, and Oakland has played better offensive teams this season than Atlanta. So if you ask me, I think its pretty safe to compare Atlanta and Oakland defensively. These are the facts, do what you will with them. Once again, I'm not saying SD will or won't cover, all I'm saying is I like the under and the Raiders to keep the score reasonable

[hanco21]

I have been to every Chargers game year and this is a flat bad football team. There is no pass rush and and every team is nickle and diming them down the field.

I do like the Chargers to win and think there due because I sure can't sit through another another arse whoopin. Good Luck with your bet.

And I love the Over in this game!!!

[demize21]

i like the over also just to play it safe i took rutgers-3/o 44 chargers-2.5/o 35.5 on a 7 point tease which pays 2/1 imo a winner BOL to all

[pimike]

Originally Posted by pimike

Chargers believe they are still in it. I expect them to come out strong and win big, I mean Big.

THEY MAY GET 40 THEMSELVES HERE. THEY WILL PLAY TO KILL SOMEBODY AND THE RAIDERS WILL BE THAT TEAM.


CHARGERS PLAY FOR SURE, BE CAREFUL WITH THE TOTAL HERE. IF UNDER IT WILL BE 40-0

Well they got 34 big enough


Congrats on those who took Chargers to kick ass

[guru-t]

Yeah.Congrats also on those who got the under between 41.5 and 43.I grabbed it early at 43.

[pimike]

Originally Posted by guru-t

Yeah.Congrats also on those who got the under between 41.5 and 43.I grabbed it early at 43.

nice, had to sweat that, first half appeared to look like an easy over, good hit on the under

[guru-t]

Originally Posted by pimike

nice, had to sweat that, first half appeared to look like an easy over, good hit on the under

I love penalties!!!!But for real,without the turnover by the Raiders early,would not have had to sweat it that hard.SD was definitely a easier hit than the under.I was just not buying into SD or OAK to be honest with you pimike.
Congrats on SD

[kroyrunner89]

ya san diego scored a bit more than i expected i thought they'd be in the low 20s, thank god for oakland's offensive ineptitude! congrats to all on san diego and the under

[laxdjock]

I waited until a bit before the game so it'd go lower....and luckily my over pushed. Absolutely shocked after that first half they didn't cover.

[guru-t]

Same thing happened to me on the over in the Dall-SEA game on Thanksgiving.30pnts at the half and wound up at 43.Sucked!