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Old 11-17-08, 06:59 PM   #1
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Default Browns....No Hope

Now with their playoff hopes almost dead, the Browns are showing their true colors: a heartless team that lacks leadership and direction. The offense is publicly calling-out the defense, which shows me that these guys never bonded as a team under Crennel's leadership. Crennel is cluless on the sideline and in life.

Bills on the other hand, they think they still have a shot at the playoffs and will play hard tonight on MNF in front of their home faithful. Last year on MNF they nearly upended Dallas as huge underdogs, and tonight I think they'll defeat the spiritless Browns by a TD or more.

I'm not ready to trust Brady Quinn in his first road start….not in 22 degree wind-chill, roaring fans, and snow. His defense will screw him too. The Browns have given up 160 rushing yards per game since Oct 12. Marshawn Lynch should be able to tee-off on that shiftless group. The Browns secondary is equally atrocious, giving up 447 yards last week AT HOME.

Bills haven't been impressive in their last three games, but two of their losses were on the road and all came against teams a damn-sight better than the Browns. Simply put, Dick Jauron will have his guys fired up to stay relevant this year. Browns are a bunch of basket-cases that may get routed tonight after they pack it in.

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BILLS -5
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Old 11-17-08, 07:00 PM   #2
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Thanks brotha! So your saying under also?
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Old 11-17-08, 07:01 PM   #3
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GL, but tonight I'm on the other side.
I think browns win outright, just not enough to play the ML
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Old 11-17-08, 07:06 PM   #4
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I'm not playing the under, but I think it will win.

Think about it.....Edwards has thrown 5 picks in the last three games. With the playoffs on the line, Jauron won't be eager to take chances on him if he can get away with shoving Mashawn Lynch up the field all night (which he will). The Bills will eat clock and the Browns (Quinn) will commmit a couple of turnovers. Scoring will be low in the windy conditions.
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Old 11-17-08, 07:09 PM   #5
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you arent afraid cleve will throw all over the bills?
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Old 11-17-08, 07:14 PM   #6
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Im thinking about teasing bills +1 and playing under 47... and then teasing browns +11 and playing under 47... one of them is bound to hit, and if bills win by 10 or lesss both cash... I thinkthats a fair way to cover myself?
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Old 11-17-08, 07:16 PM   #7
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you arent afraid cleve will throw all over the bills?
Why? because of last week? Denver's pass D is a joke! Buffalo is far better. Bottom line, Browns are 27th in the league in total offense and Quinn wasn't tested against Denver. He will be tonight in Ralph Wilson stadium. Two INTs minimum.
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Old 11-17-08, 07:17 PM   #8
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i know denver has a joke of a pass d
but browns have 3 big play guys and buff has one i think
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Old 11-17-08, 07:21 PM   #9
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Skill positions = Browns (although Quinn is unproven)
Defense = Bills
Home advantage = Bills
Psychological = Bills (by a mile)
Motivation = Bills
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Old 11-17-08, 07:26 PM   #10
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o line browns
wrs browns
rb push
qb browns
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d line browns
coach push
d backs buff i guess
home field buff
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Old 11-17-08, 07:30 PM   #11
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best of luck to you st andrew i'm on the same
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Old 11-17-08, 07:30 PM   #12
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Defense = Browns 26th, Bills 13th
Offense = Browns 27th, Bills 24th
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Old 11-17-08, 07:31 PM   #13
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C'Mon...let's get it on! I'm ready for the Buffalo to kick these frauds all over the field. C'Mon!
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Old 11-17-08, 07:33 PM   #14
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Im hitting buff hard brother!
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Old 11-17-08, 07:38 PM   #15
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I took the Bills teased to +1 earlier in the week, but I think they cover the regular spread as well.

I think the Bills are having problems but on the whole are a better team, and home team aspect makes the difference.

2 unit 5 Team teaser ending with
Bills +1
with a one unit Browns ML +200 to hedge

Lets Go Buffalo!!

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Old 11-17-08, 07:39 PM   #16
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Lets get it again standrew!!!!I played the under at 41.5 yesterday.I also hope the BILLS cover for ya dude.I admitted on the college forum that i'm tailing you a bit right now!Your on fire man and you've helped me a lot!Lets get it BILLS 20-13
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Old 11-17-08, 07:39 PM   #17
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Tough one. St. Andrew, Lt, Ac are on Buff. BBD, Ryan, Mmike are on Clev. For those who like to trail, which side you'r on?
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Old 11-17-08, 07:41 PM   #18
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I took the Bills teased to +1 earlier in the week, but I think they cover the regular spread as well.

I think the Bills are having problems but on the whole are a better team, and home team aspect makes the difference.

2 unit 5 Team teaser ending with
Bills +1
with a one unit Browns ML +200 to hedge

Lets Go Buffalo!!

I don't understand, how can you not profit? Isn't that free money?
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Old 11-17-08, 07:41 PM   #19
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Browns are the better team. I am on them +5. Will be a close game.
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Old 11-17-08, 07:43 PM   #20
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Cleveland got some spark back w/Quinn last week...while its true Denver's D is beat up and weak...Buffalo doesn't have Cutler/Brandon Marshall either!! Buff has only scored over 17 once in their last 5 games! Lynch has ZERO 100 yd games this year and even Cleveland will contain the run! I think the Brownies will be pumped up after that "quitter" stuff hanging over their heads all week and they have more talent (granted underachieving) than Buffalo! Cleveland did beat the Giants after all...I don't think Buffalo could beat NY once out of 5!

Browns 23-17
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Old 11-17-08, 07:44 PM   #21
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i am not saying browns are better team, they clearly are the worse team
im just wondering if they show up and make it close
not sure if there is value on buff-5
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Old 11-17-08, 07:44 PM   #22
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Not to mention Ralph Wilson Stadium on MNF is a mad house.

Bills -5 or 5.5 is good against the browns.

GL to ALL.
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Old 11-17-08, 07:46 PM   #23
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Default LOL, the Browns's Kellen Winslow

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Old 11-17-08, 07:55 PM   #24
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He is such a prick!!!One thing that really stood out that really made me sick and I don't mean to get off the subject was the ticker reading that Tulane beat UAB by 14 that sat!That would've been nice last week!Anyway,BILLS 20-13.Lets get it!
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Old 11-17-08, 07:56 PM   #25
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he could have have been a top 10- tight end ever
unreal talent
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Old 11-17-08, 07:57 PM   #26
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How can you use the browns vs giants as a info anderson was the qb.I've seen a couple you guys use that game as an advantage
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Old 11-17-08, 08:05 PM   #27
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No shit!!!!The Browns just happened to have one good game and that was it.
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Old 11-17-08, 08:07 PM   #28
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No shit!!!!The Browns just happened to have one good game and that was it.
Guru, tonight when you see the Browns fighting with each other on the sideline.....and you see Romeo Crennel staring off into space.....I want you to rememeber this line.
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Old 11-17-08, 08:11 PM   #29
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Gotcha standrew and I believe the pointing of the fingers starts early and often.Just hope the BILLS will keep the score down a bit since the BROWNS might manage 10-13 pts.Go under
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Old 11-17-08, 08:20 PM   #30
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o line browns
wrs browns
rb push
qb browns
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d line browns
coach push
d backs buff i guess
home field buff

how can you give coaching a push??? Have you watched the bone head moves Romeo has made??? What about kicking the fg vs pitt??? He is by far one of the worst coaches in the league...
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Old 11-17-08, 08:26 PM   #31
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I don't understand, how can you not profit? Isn't that free money?
The moneyline bet only hedges my original bets. (The two units on the five team teaser will give me a lot more. )
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Old 11-17-08, 08:26 PM   #32
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jauran sucks too
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Old 11-17-08, 08:29 PM   #33
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Yeah.Romeo is some shit.Check this out!Maybe Mcnabb should get released be the EAGLES and he could be the BROWNS coach!!!!They're both idiots.Mcnabb would play to send the game to a 2nd OT!!!!
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Old 11-17-08, 08:32 PM   #34
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allright st andy
40 units bills ml
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Old 11-17-08, 08:33 PM   #35
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Browns win outright
cause Winslow's a ****ING SOLDIER.
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