[BadBeatBodog]

This website has Philly -3/-3.5 and Baltimore +7. I love both of those lines, what about you guys?

[BadBeatBodog]

Parker and Hampton are out for the game. I really can't believe Baltimore is getting seven points.

[Lout84]

Originally Posted by BadBeatBodog

This website has Philly -3/-3.5 and Baltimore +7. I love both of those lines, what about you guys?

Yes, I love both of those lines. I suspect the Eagles will have another 9 sack games against Orton or they will force him to make a lot of bad throws which I could see 2-3 INT's.

[Robust]

Baltimore +7 looks too good to be true!

Robust

[BadBeatBodog]

Yes the Baltimore line is screwy. I guess people still don't realize this team has a top three defense and is legit this year.

[hakrjak]

Sounds like the move is to bet Phily and Bal early this week before the lines move much!

Although last time I bet on Bal, I think it was last year on MNF and PIT killed them by like 30 pts... Hmmm.... have to think that one over, but Phily is def a bet! Even without Westbrook, who I'll bet will play anyway.

- Hakrjak

[hakrjak]

Doh, just checked my book (Betus) and they don't have the Monday night games available for betting yet.

[BadBeatBodog]

None of the online books have those lines out as far as I know

[sickler]

Originally Posted by BadBeatBodog

None of the online books have those lines out as far as I know

Same here...haven't seen a line for those games at any books.

Been waiting for them to be released.

[Lout84]

I actually like Pitt -7. I think Pitt's defense will stifle the rookie Flacco. Roethlisberger will get his team the points they need.

[BadBeatBodog]

Lout: Pittsburgh, and especially Ben, is very beat up after that Philly game. Willie Parker and Casey Hampton are out. Baltimore was extremely underrated coming into the season and still seem to be; they sport an elite defense - probably the best in the league - and should be able to replicate the pressure and havoc the Eagles caused last week. Pitt has a great defense itself, and will certainly try to put tons of pressure on Flacco and bottle up the run game to make him beat them, but the Ravens' defense is certainly good enough to keep this game within a touchdown the whole way through.

[dwaechte]

This is pretty messed that its Wednesday afternoon and still no one online is putting out these lines.

[BadBeatBodog]

I think it's because of the health uncertainty for some players, namely Roethlisberger. More and more places in Vegas are putting out the line and it hasn't budged from 7, so I think it will be +7 when the online books release it. If you are looking for early action on the game, people have put up moneyline odds for the game. Vegas has put out -310 to -330 while MB has -230, which equates to a -6 -104 line. I was fortunate enough to grab -200 earlier in the hopes of hedging later.

[hakrjak]

Phil -3 is a dream come true. If that's the line when it comes out, I'll be grabbing some of that action asap.

[Tricky]

Ravens are a surprise because the Bengals and Browns have started horribly. Pitt was flat on the road against a very good NFC team. I don't know why some people think they'll face the same beatdown this week...they're at home against a divisional foe fighting for first place on Monday night. Ravens will want revenge from last year's rout but Pitt is still the better team even without Parker. Look for dump offs to Mendenhall, quick passes to Ward, Miller and Holmes and Big Ben getting enough protection to move them downfield. I'm skipping this game but would lean towards Pitt -7.

[keystonekid]

Philly @ Chicago could be a close game.Baltimore @ Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh wins by at least 2 touchdowns.

Baltimore has played the 2 worst teams, and at home. They are a bad road team and Pittsburgh is a good home team.

Philly should kick chicago's ass, but, they are playing at chicago.

[Beat up the book]

Originally Posted by keystonekid

Philly @ Chicago could be a close game.Baltimore @ Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh wins by at least 2 touchdowns.

Baltimore has played the 2 worst teams, and at home. They are a bad road team and Pittsburgh is a good home team.

Philly should kick chicago's ass, but, they are playing at chicago.

Birds -3 cant be right.
Bears secondary got torched by TB last week.Westbrooks ankle is fine and Mcnugget's arm is even better.
Birds roll.

[hakrjak]

Lines just opened up on my book! I slammed down 2 dimes on Eagles -3 right away. Might even bet more

- Hakrjak

[underrated]

Originally Posted by Beat up the book

Birds -3 cant be right.
Bears secondary got torched by TB last week.Westbrooks ankle is fine and Mcnugget's arm is even better.
Birds roll.

Westbrook's status is uncertain. Quit confusing people. How is philly on the road all beat up in tough chicago a quality bet at -3. nah.

[dwaechte]

I don't understand how these books waited so ****ing long to open these, and still put out bad numbers. The Balt line opened at +7(I didn't get it until it was +7(-116)) and is now down to +5.5. The Philly line opened at -3(Got it at -3(-109)) and is about to move to -3.5.

[hakrjak]

The Eagles don't need Westbrook to beat Chicago by 3... They should win by 10 or so even without him, based on the fact that Chicago has no offense to speak of, and the Eagles have other weapons they can use. I'd say the Eagles had an A- team before Westbrook got hurt, and him being out moves them down to a B or B+. Chicago is a C+ IMO. Buckhalter looked fine last weekend and scored the games only TD, and McNabb is healthy. Westbrook might end up playing, which would be cream on the cake, who knows -- But I'll bet this line moves up to atleast 5 or 6 before gametime.

- Hakrjak

[dwaechte]

No way that line's moving to 5 or 6.

What makes you think a B+ team should be favoured by more than 6.5 points or so on a neutral field vs a C+ team?

[NardVa]

Chicago will win out right. Chicago could easily be 3-0. They blew double digit leads in the 2nd half of the Carolina and the Tampa game.

[hakrjak]

I guess we'll settle this on Sunday night again... Chicago is totally unreliable, and their QB situation sucks. The eagles are simply going to outscore them by 10 or so points on Sunday -- and if you don't see that plain as day, there is nothing I can do for you. LOL

A bet on the Eagles -3 is about as safe a bet as you can get in this profession right now.

- Hakrjak

[Deceptive]

At what point this year has Baltimore looked like they can beat or keep up with an elite team with their QB. how many people have bumped their head, even if pitt is banged up this is monday night and just ask yourself how bad baltimore would get demolished last week if they were in pittsburghs shoes against philly, the only play for me that seems worth it is laying the points with pitt. also i see the under as a very attractive bet in the philly chicago game, this may be a week to lay alot of points, denver -9 s.d. -9 my four bets for the week good luck

[BadBeatBodog]

I have waited around this whole week for the Bal/Pit line to come out and of course when it opens at +7 I'm not home to grab it. What's crazy is I think the line is now +5 at 5Dimes and opened at +9.5 at somewhere in Vegas.

[Beat up the book]

Originally Posted by underrated

Westbrook's status is uncertain. Quit confusing people. How is philly on the road all beat up in tough chicago a quality bet at -3. nah.

TB put up 400 yards passing on da Bears in tough
Chicago last week.Did you watch the 4th quarter?Da Bears prevent defense prevented themselves from winning.What do you think the line should be?

[hakrjak]

W3rd... If it was my book, I'd be charging people -7.5 to bet on Phily vs. the Bears, atleast... But since it's somebody else's book offering me 3 pts, I'm jumping for joy and betting it hard!

[hakrjak]

BTW -- The line of Phily has already gone to -4 at my book... I expect it to continue rising as Sunday night approaches.

The line on Pitt went down to -5 from -7 yesterday. Are these folks crazy? Pitt should crush Baltimore again for the 2nd straight year on MNF!

- Hakrjak

[Beat up the book]

Originally Posted by NardVa

Chicago will win out right. Chicago could easily be 3-0. They blew double digit leads in the 2nd half of the Carolina and the Tampa game.

Does that even make sense!
I hope da Bears have they lead in 2nd half in the Birds game then!

[Dark Horse]

The Eagles have health issues. Five starters on offense at this point are still uncertain.

http://prosportsdaily.sportsdirectin.../injuries.html

[BadBeatBodog]

I would like some advice for people. I jumped on Pitt ML -200 much earlier in the week for more than I should have on one bet with the intention of hedging and then jumping on Balt +7/7.5 Unfortunately, I stepped out for four hours and during that time the spread opened at 7.5 and subsequently dropped to 5.5, while the ML went from ~250 to ~220. So now I'm stuck with a large bet on the Pitt ML, albeit at a good price. Do I buy back most of the bet and let the Pit ML ride? I feel like shit taking the 5.5 spread when I should've had it at 7.5. Does anyone want a piece of Pitt ML -200?

Edit: Now I see BetUS has the same price on the Pitt ML and I REALLY feel like shit. What's my best move? I don't see the line moving back up...

[hakrjak]

I would just leave your bet as is. So you'll still win your bet, but you are gonna miss out on a few extra dollars? You can't plan for every contingency. I lost position on the Pitt bet, taking it as a spread -7 as soon as it opened up, and for some reason it's moved down to -5.5 -- But you don't see me crying. Almost all my other bets have improved since I made them, so I figure it evens out over the longer haul.

- Hakrjak

[BadBeatBodog]

But you're missing the point. I think the Ravens actually have a good chance of winning this game. I knew the line would be around 250 and it was when it came out but I missed it; no one's fault but my own. I know I can just buy out no harm no foul but I want people's opinions on if they think the line will move back up at all?

As for you taking Pitt -7, with the way the it dropped in Vegas I think it was possible to predict the line would drop when online sportsbooks released it.

[NardVa]

Originally Posted by Beat up the book

Does that even make sense!
I hope da Bears have they lead in 2nd half in the Birds game then!

I was just trying to point out they are better than a lot of people give them credit for and are capable of beating the Eagles at home.