[r2d2]

God, that line makes me just want to hit it big time. i mean, they did beat unc this year by 4 in one game. yes, lost badly in the other game by 20 i think @unc. But i mean common, this is the finals with the wolf pack trying to pull off an upset to get into the dance. doesn't that make it kinda close?? maybe a 10 point loss?/

appreciate thoughts on the sucker bet theory here guys.

[BuddyBear]

sucker bet....

[Crayzee]

they are tired-
but unc might be a little tired too
its a hell of alot of points for neutral court
i probably gotta take the points sucker or not

of course if theres such a thing as "fixes"
it wouldnt be terribly hard to keep this one under the point spread

[babaoriley]

SUCKER BET--UNC wins by 20.

[woodyb97]

According to Dickey V, no team has ever won 4 games in a row in the ACC tournament. Of course that doesn't mean that NC St. can't cover the 15. I got a small play on NC St.

GTLA

[BuddyBear]

I guess I should elaborate....

Depending on who you talk to in the industry it seems everyone has an opinion about what a sucker bet is or isn't. The most common and widely cited definition of a sucker bet is "when a line looks to good to be true." Of course if you extend that quote it reads like this: "when a line looks to good to be true...it usually is."

The general idea is that linesmakers, especially at this point of a season are not going to make such glaring mistakes. Sure early on you will see lines that in retrospect make little sense (i.e. AF-3 over COL). But now, the linesmakers knows these teams well better than almost everyone else including gamblers, fans, journalists, and I wouldn't be shocked if they knew more than the coaches. Combine that with their access to historical data...you aren't really in a very good position to judge the accuracy of lines.

Thus, sometimes lines seem out of whack when they aren't. For me, if I see the public loading up on an underdog that is a very bad sign just b/c general betting tendency show that bettors are considerably more likely to bet favorites so if they are betting the underdog then it is out of character.....

But like I said, it depends on who you talk to about the nature of a sucker bet....

[Crayzee]

i dont think the 15-1/2 looks TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE
certainly not a game i would go crazy on
i just have to take 15-1/2 points or not play the game
reminds me of yesterdays memphis/houston game

[ShamsWoof10]

I agree with the definition and I agree NCSt. is a sucker bet... even though they are up 9-8 right now...

[Razz]

Frankly, I'm not sure why this looked "too good to be true". BC and FSU were getting 11 and 11.5 from UNC, neither covered, and both would be AT LEAST 5 point favorites against NC State.

[Max Kim]

Had to gamble 75-78 3:03
NCU needs to kill some clock
NC State still has a chance to win
History in the making

[BuddyBear]

I guess the suckers today are the ones who past up on NCST getting DD on a neutral court against a team they already beat....

I think Sidney is going to be a very good coach...the way he got his team to play these 4 days against 4 teams who have more talent than his team does...says a lot about the coach.

As for Roy Williams, what can you say

[goldengoat]

man again with the sucker bet biting someone in the ass again

i won't say who but he knows who he is

i suggest not using such language in the future