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Old 06-25-2008, 06:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Jermaine O'Neal Traded to Toronto for TJ Ford and 17th Pick

NEW YORK – After on-and-off again negotiations, the Indiana Pacers have agreed in principle to send six-time All-Star Jermaine O’Neal to the Toronto Raptors for point guard T.J. Ford and the 17th pick in Thursday’s NBA draft, a league executive said Wednesday.

After nearly completing the deal earlier in the week, Pacers and Raptors officials needed to exchange more medical information on O’Neal’s left knee and Ford’s neck before finding a comfort level with the trade. It is believed both sides now are comfortable making the deal, though the trade won’t be complete until both O’Neal and Ford pass their physicals.

Toronto also will send Rasho Nesterovic and another role player to match up with O’Neal’s salary. O’Neal is owed $44 million over the next two seasons. He played just 42 games for Indiana a year ago with a left knee injury. O’Neal has expressed a desire to leave the Pacers for a contender.

Ford, who has a history of neck injuries, became expendable when Toronto GM Bryan Colangelo decided that he wanted to make Jose Calderon the franchise’s future at point guard.

Ford was diagnosed with spinal stenosis, a condition that narrows the openings the spinal cord runs through. He missed the 2004-05 season with the Bucks following neck surgery, and missed 13 games with a neck injury last season after Atlanta’s Al Horford leveled him on a breakaway layup. Ford has $25 million and two years left on his contract. Indiana had been searching for a point guard and Ford takes the job now.

Calderon is a restricted free agent, and Colangelo has insisted that he’ll match any offer for him. Clearly, the Raptors will belong to him now.

The Pacers would now hold the 11th and 17th picks in the draft.
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Looks like they trade names on the injured list. I'll give you a neck and a lower back for your torn acl.
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Bad trade for Toronto. Why take Jermaine now? Whats worse is the story that is floating about Detroit willing to trade Wallace aand Billups for Baron Davis. WHAT!!!! LOL! How bad is that? If this happens...Deuce should never say how great Detroit is again.
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Basically a wash

Ford better than O'Neil though
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Old 06-25-2008, 07:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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What I don't understand is, why the **** did we have to give them the 17th pick as well.
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Bad trade for Toronto. Why take Jermaine now? Whats worse is the story that is floating about Detroit willing to trade Wallace aand Billups for Baron Davis. WHAT!!!! LOL! How bad is that? If this happens...Deuce should never say how great Detroit is again.
No that wasn't the rumor at all. Don't jump to conclusions son, it was Davis, Harrington, 13th overall pick, for Billups, Wallace.
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Don't worry about the Detroit trade. Joe D stated that i quote "No way in hell" will he make that trade.
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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That Detroit trade if i happen will put Golden St. in a nice spot. You'll never see the soft Lakers in the finals for a while.
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:06 PM   #9 (permalink)
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No that wasn't the rumor at all. Don't jump to conclusions son, it was Davis, Harrington, 13th overall pick, for Billups, Wallace.
Would that still be fair? Would you take it? Dumars has given up and resigned himself to the fact that Boston will be the beast for another 2 years and Cleveland, Orlando, and Toronto is going to pass them.
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Would that still be fair? Would you take it? Dumars has given up and resigned himself to the fact that Boston will be the beast for another 2 years and Cleveland, Orlando, and Toronto is going to pass them.
Billups and Wallace since 04 play for a paycheck not for a championship. Both are far past their primes.
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Billups and Wallace since 04 play for a paycheck not for a championship. Both are far past their primes.
Then lets see if Dumars trades them. I hope you have heard that Prince is on the trade market as well. Your Pistons are trying to rebuild around Stuckey. And the new coach. Gonna be awhile before they compete for a championship again.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Looks like they trade names on the injured list. I'll give you a neck and a lower back for your torn acl.


No shiet man, they are always listed on Injury Reports.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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good trade for indiana who is trying to clean up its teams image a bit. i wonder what this will do to tinsley...

foster
murphy
dunleavy
granger
ford

still a pretty weak starting 5..
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:43 PM   #14 (permalink)
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This is a brutal trade for Toronto. Jermaine O'Neal appears to be totally washed up. Ford has had his problems but at least he is an effective player when healthy, which is actually most of the time. I just hope B.C. knows something that everyone else doesn't...
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Old 06-26-2008, 04:40 AM   #15 (permalink)
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wtf is this guy doing can we get a mod
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Old 06-26-2008, 07:54 AM   #16 (permalink)
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No offense Sinister Cat, but if I'm a GM and on one line is bryan colangelo, and on the other line is you, I'm taking your call.

The guy is sharp.
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Old 06-26-2008, 07:59 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Not 100% sure here but from what I heard isn't Nesterovic also in this deal?Which makes it that much worse. Nesterovic pretty much blows but he is still a big body that a team needs. Ford and Nesterovic for Oneal is a so so trade but when you throw in a first round pick, anything can happen with that. I agree with what has been said in this thread though, Oneals to injury prone and makes over 20 million dollars I believe.Definately could have gotten something better then this surely.
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