[Win89]

Team schedules are out!

[EasyPicks]

JM will have to change something....this isn't a normal season.....

8 consecutive road games in 12 days....LOL...
etc etc etc

[Win89]

I haven't checked every team yet but looks like everyone has at least one play, some two, with all OOC opponents.

[thelimit0310]

I am compiling a schedule and just wanted to know, what is the rule regarding extra long road trips? If there are 6 game road trips that qualifies are those 2 separate series? If the road trip starts in conference is it still a V1 play if the following games are out of conference?

Would love some insight on this, as there seems to be at least 1 of these problems with every team this season

[Win89]

It's somewhat similar to the NHL system. JM states that for 6-game road trips you should only play the first 3 and recommends they play a home game before that.

Now his exception to that is if they have been playing road games within conference before the 3 OOC road games, then you should ONLY treat the OOC games as eligible plays as long as they lost the previous road games by more than 3 points against the spread. (Adding 3 points to the spread).

Hope that clears things up a bit.

[thelimit0310]

It does, thanks Win89. But it raises another problem for this season as the schedules are very weird. Most of the teams road games are bunched together. I'm seeing 8+ road games straight for some teams.

I've completed just about half of this seasons schedule, and there are only about 10 true V1 plays so far. I guess we can see what Morrison says, not that it'll help.

[stevex]

Hey all fellow JM followers! Glad to be back for another year of NBA. It was about time they got all that crap sorted out. I know I keep honing in on it, but with the schedule a little different this year, it's the perfect time to start (if you haven't already) to implement a labby. That way you can play a team that has say 6 or 8 or whatever road games in a row and just break it down into sets of 3. Cheers to making some money!

[thelimit0310]

Hey all fellow JM followers! Glad to be back for another year of NBA. It was about time they got all that crap sorted out. I know I keep honing in on it, but with the schedule a little different this year, it's the perfect time to start (if you haven't already) to implement a labby. That way you can play a team that has say 6 or 8 or whatever road games in a row and just break it down into sets of 3. Cheers to making some money!

This is what I planned on doing, I plan on playing full road trips and breaking them down and playing all system versions. This will undoubtedly come at the expense of more losses than usual but there really is no other way to play this system this year unless you only want ~20 plays. But I will take other methods of playing this season into consideration as well.

I received an email from JM this morning, it was only a reminder that tip-off is in 2 weeks and to "get ready to make a slew of cash". We'll see what he does when the plays come around.

[DustyDiamond]

Wallco are you going to post Chase 110 in here this season?

[stevex]

My opinion the Chase110 system should have its own thread and it's nothing against Wallco, it's just the fact that JM NBA has 3 different versions so we should just keep it all JM in here. This way nobody gets confused. Again just an opinion....

Wallco

[thelimit0310]

Season Schedule JM NBA 2011-12
V1 Plays: 37 | V2 Plays: 16 | V3 Plays: 92

December
25 Boston V3
25 Chicago V1
26 Philadelphia V1
28 New York V2
29 New Jersey V3
30 Toronto V3
31 Atlanta V3
31 Indiana V3

January
1 Charlotte V3
2 Milwaukee V1
2 Golden State V3
3 Houston V3
4 Chicago V3
4 Memphis V3
4 Cleveland V2
5 Miami V3
8 Orlando V1
10 Cleveland V1 (continued from Jan 4 series)
10 Sacramento V2
10 Miami V1 (only if they lose games on 5th/7th)
11 New Jersey V1
13 Portland V3
14 Golden State V1
14 Toronto V3
15 Phoenix V2
16 Oklahoma City V1
16 Dallas V3
17 Denver V1
17 Phoenix V1 (only if they lose game on 15th)
17 Charlotte V3
18 Indiana V1
18 Portland V1 (continued from Jan 13 series)
20 Sacramento V3
22 Toronto V1
23 Memphis V3
23 New Jersey V3
23 Atlanta V3
24 New York V3
25 Indiana V3
27 Oklahoma City V3
27 San Antonio V3
28 Detroit V3
29 Chicago V3
31 Charlotte V1

February
2 Memphis V2
2 Chicago V3 (continued from Jan 29 series)
3 LA Lakers V3
4 Oklahoma City V3
4 Houston V3
4 LA Clippers V1
4 Dallas V3
6 San Antonio V2
8 Chicago V3 (continued from Jan 29/Feb 2 series)
8 Miami V3
9 LA Lakers V1 (continued from Feb 3 series)
9 Houston V3 (continued from Feb 4 series)
10 LA Clippers V2 (continued from Feb 4 series)
11 Philadelphia V3
11 Phoenix V3
12 Utah V3
12 Washington V2
13 Miami V3 (continued from Feb 8 series)
14 Atlanta V1
14 Washington V1 (only if they lose on Feb 12)
14 San Antonio V2 (continued from Feb 6 series)
14 Sacramento V1
15 Charlotte V3
15 New Orleans V2
15 Denver V3
16 Boston V3
19 Orlando V3
19 Sacramento V1 (continued from Feb 14 series)
19 Philadelphia V1
20 San Antonio V3 (continued from Feb 6/Feb 14 series)
21 New Orleans V1 (continued from Feb 15 series)
22 Golden State V2
28 Minnesota V3
28 New Jersey V3
29 Oklahoma City V1
29 Chicago V3
29 Milwaukee V3

March
1 LA Clippers V3
1 Miami V1
2 Golden State V1 (continued from Feb 22 series)
2 Sacramento V3
3 Utah V2
4 New York V2
5 Utah V1 (only if they lose on Mar 3)
5 New Orleans V3
5 Orlando V3
5 LA Clippers V3 (continued from Mar 1 series)
6 LA Lakers V2
6 Atlanta V3
6 Houston V1
7 Memphis V3
7 Portland V2
8 Dallas V3
10 Charlotte V1
11 Atlanta V1 (continued from Mar 6 series)
11 Boston V1
12 Washington V1
12 Detroit V1
12 Minnesota V3
13 Miami V3
13 Portland V1 (continued from Mar 7 series)
13 Toronto V3
16 Boston V2 (continued from Mar 11 series)
16 Wasington V3 (continued from Mar 12 series)
18 Minnesota V3 (continued from Mar 12 series)
19 Cleveland V3
20 Memphis V3
20 Phoenix V1
20 LA Clippers V3
23 Miami V3
23 Denver V3
24 Detroit V3
25 Utah V1
26 New Orleans V3
28 Denver V1 (continued from Mar 23 series)
30 New Jersey V1
30 Memphis V3
31 Charlotte V3

April
1 Golden State V3
2 Houston V3
3 Phoenix V3
4 Cleveland V3
5 Washington V3
6 Detroit V3
7 LA Lakers V3
7 Atlanta V3
8 Philadelphia V3
9 LA Clippers V3
9 Phoenix V3
10 Sacramento V3
11 Utah V3
12 Dallas V3
13 Boston V3
14 Oklahoma City V3
16 San Antonio V3
18 New York V3
18 Toronto V3
18 Philadelphia V3
18 Orlando V2
20 Golden State V3
21 Portland V3
22 New Orleans V3

Notes:
- (continued from...) means the series is within the same road trip as the teams previous series. Because of how screwed up the schedules are this year, I felt I would add them to the list. Note that V1 plays that have this tag will only be official if the team loses the previous series straight up and against the spread. V2 and V3 plays with this tag are unofficial.

- (only if they lose...) refers to the JM filter in which teams that start a road trip in conference and then travel out of conference can be considered official if they lose both straight up and against the spread in the in conference games. I only did this for potential V1 plays. Note that I have included the start of the road trips as series themselves on the list as they would qualify for V2 or V3 anyways.

Though I am fairly confident in the schedule, I encourage anyone to double check it for errors. Thanks.

[thelimit0310]

On a personal note, it may be a good idea to just skip December altogether. With the shortened training camps and only 2 game preseason it may be a little rocky. Some of the plays in December are the teams first games of the season, and it may hurt. Just a suggestion.

[xgame]

thanks thelimit0310

[pagodo]

Thanks for posting the schedule, thelimit

I will also labby the plays, although I've been thinking to only go for A and B bets on one line, no points-buying. I'll run a simulation by the end of the month to work out something that suits me best.

This upcoming shortened season is shaping up to be quite unpredictable. I wonder if we'll end up with profit using system principles tailored for a different kind of schedule.

[Win89]

The mystery of what will come this season is certainly nerve racking. Does anyone know if it's possible to find out what happened during the 98'-99' lockout??

[covertwo]

So, how many people are going to lose money on this great system this season?

[thelimit0310]

No problem guys!

Pagodo nice to see you again! I will probably just labby all 3+ game road trips. It looks like theres enough plays to skip the (continued from) series so I will forgo that too most likely. In previous years, a great way to labby this system was to just play it all -110 and play all teams that took a road trip. This is what I will be doing however it may be a little more rocky with losses.

Unless someone can backtest 98-99 under this system we will have no way of knowing for sure.

[Win89]

Thank goodness! After some deep looking I have finally found a spreadsheet for the 98'-99' season. Give me a lil time and I'll figure up the V1 results.

[Win89]

Here's the link for the 98'-99' spreadsheet.

http://www.goldsheet.com/histnba.php

[Win89]

You guys can verify the results for this but I think it's pretty accurate. The V1 ended up with a record of 11-0.

[A]= 6 wins
[B]= 2 wins
[C]= 3 wins

For series that contained in conference road games prior to the three OOC opponents I applied JMs guidelines in which they needed to lose the prior in conference games against the spread by MORE than 3 points( with three points added to the spread per his rules). That rule actually prevented a single series loss which I'm sure would have put the system in the negative.

Also you would have needed to buy the 3 points for one series which ended up being a [C] bet that needed it.

[Win89]

Not sure if I feel any better after the back track than I did before. Although it was a 50 game season I expected more plays but maybe they just didn't play OOC the way they do now. The one thing that bothers me is the three [C] bets on 11 plays....kinda scary plus buying the 3 points seems like the best move for this kind of season. If you look at previous seasons for his efficient systems (NBA, MLB) you might see one or two [C] bets all season.

[thelimit0310]

Thanks for the find Win89!

This season there are 25 true V1 plays, 14 more than 98-99. If odds are -200 for all plays (if your buying points it will probably be -170 or -190), a C loss would equal about 26 units lost. Now, because your odds wouldn't be -200, and I just did that for easier calculations, you would still lose 20+ units a C loss. So really you can't lose more than once this season without going negative if you chase and only play V1.

Win89, I played JM last year. There were more than 3 C bets. In fact there were 3 C bet losses last year. The system averages 2 C losses a season for V1.

[Wallco99]

Wallco are you going to post Chase 110 in here this season?

Yes.

[thelimit0310]

Wallco do you think the Chase -110 system will be affected at all with this seasons schedules? If I remember correctly its chase a team that has lost 6 SU and ATS, so that system should still play out fairly normal yes? Or are there any precautions this time around?

[Wallco99]

Wallco do you think the Chase -110 system will be affected at all with this seasons schedules? If I remember correctly its chase a team that has lost 6 SU and ATS, so that system should still play out fairly normal yes? Or are there any precautions this time around?

It's three straight, with a four game chase.

[DustyDiamond]

Thanks for the schedule thelimit0310 great work. If I can remember right the JM system is when you must by 3 points every time right?

[knugen]

Yes, the system Tell us to buy 3 points

[ok15533]

how did the chase work last season

[thelimit0310]

It's three straight, with a four game chase.

Wallco, what site do you use to help determine your system plays? Do you just check every team every day or is there an easier way? I would very much like to know.

Thanks!

[cmdyrds]

thanks limit for the work. here's is the results o had from the past 7 years. i think it's pretty accurate.

Version 1 Version 2 Version 3 Totals
2010/201: 58-3 2010/201 30-1 2010/201: 67-3 155-7
2009/2010: 47-2 2009/2010: 28-0 2009/2010: 67-2 142-4
2008/2009: 61-0 2008/2009: 29-0 2008/2009: 59-1 149-1
2007/2008: 56-2 2007/2008: 27-0 2007/2008: 63-1 146-3
2006/2007: 55-2 2006/2007: 23-0 2006/2007: 63-3 141-5
2005/2006: 55-2 2005/2006: 32-1 2005/2006: 63-7 150-10
2004/2005: 59-2 2004/2005: 30-2 2004/2005: 64-1 153-5

[bauerranch]

Sorry but I forget- what is the best books to buy the 3 points from?

[knugen]

Hm, i just Found out that pinnacle only allowed me to buy 1 point on basketball...

[knugen]

But when i look, i can buy 3 points ..

[DustyDiamond]

Any good labby strategies out there for playing JM and Chase 110?

[knugen]

Just do a labbyline..?