[hawk 5]

Pretty easy really, J Gordon, Stewart, And Montoya. Problem comes with getting good odds. Robby Gordon was really good here last year plus you have the ringers. Pruett will be there in Reeds' ride. Got to like him. Kyle smoked the field in the Nationwide series in Mexico, got to like him at his odds. Decisions, decisions. Races won from top 5; 12 of 19-63.2%, from top 10; 15 of 19-78.9%. Race won from the pole; 5 of 19-38%. Waiting a bit yet.

[avssakic]

I agree the top 4 are; Gordon's, Stweart, and Montoya.

[Big_Cheese]

Scott Pruitt replaced Reed Sorenson. He is on the field, I was able to get him and 17 other drivers at 25-1 odds to win and I laid $200 on the top 5 at 4-1, Scott Pruitt and 17 others. Feel great about this one. Some books still havent picked up on this. The one I wagered on Betgameday since updated the odds and they were slashed in half... Check you book andlook at the field odds.

Tony and Montoya have the best shot here... I see Montoya at 8-1 at some book, you better pounce on this cause after practice he want be close to these odds. 9-2 and 5-1 are good odds on Tony...

[shock11]

rather take Marcos Ambrose at 7 to 1 to come in the top 5 then Scott at 4 to 1. No point in also saying the field because they have no shot what so ever

[Big_Cheese]

Originally Posted by shock11

rather take Marcos Ambrose at 7 to 1 to come in the top 5 then Scott at 4 to 1. No point in also saying the field because they have no shot what so ever

No so true at a road course, no namers are always off pit sequence

[thekap]

If anyone wants to make a few bucks you can lay Sadler -120 over Bowyer at Matchbook, and take Bowyer +125 over Sadler at Caribsports

[shock11]

Originally Posted by Big_Cheese

Tony and Montoya have the best shot here... I see Montoya at 8-1 at some book, you better pounce on this cause after practice he want be close to these odds. 9-2 and 5-1 are good odds on Tony...

Nice Tip Cheese looks like old tony is 12 to 1 and Montoya is 10 to 1. Guess you were right these odds are even close after practice and qualifying

[rob]

I like Scott Pruett as a driver, but I'm not optimistic about his chances for a top finish as he won't be at final practice since he's racing in Ohio on Saturday.
I'll probably pass on playing this race. NASCAR races on tracks where passing is at a premium are more difficult than normal to cap. These generally come down to who has the best pit strategy and fuel mileage.
These type of races are generally the best chances for a long-shot. Although when it comes down to pit strategy, I'll take Johnson - with the best crew chief in the business, Chad Knaus - over the rest.

[hawk 5]

I'd think you could take Montoya and Steward out of your betting lineup. I'm liking both Gordons. Going with Shock on Ambrose top 5.

[hawk 5]

So far I have Robby at + 980 and Ambrose top 3.

[Big_Cheese]

Ambrose blows it... Fast cars only work well with good drivers... Gordon is +300 and has the best shot at this point. He was on the pole all the way around the track during qualifying until he missed the last turn. I would guess 5 wins counts for something here. Dont know what the deal with Tony was, Guantee he still makes the top 10 however.

[shock11]

One thing you have to remember about Ambrose is that all he did in Australian was race road coarses like sears point. It is not the car it is definitely him. Looks like he got his car working good in practice. Would of got the pole if he wasn't a qualify or go home driver. I will say he as just as good as shot as Stewart, Robby Gordan, Jeff Gordan and he is like 25 to 1 still.

[hawk 5]

Originally Posted by shock11

One thing you have to remember about Ambrose is that all he did in Australian was race road coarses like sears point. It is not the car it is definitely him. Looks like he got his car working good in practice. Would of got the pole if he wasn't a qualify or go home driver. I will say he as just as good as shot as Stewart, Robby Gordan, Jeff Gordan and he is like 25 to 1 still.

He looked damn good in Mexico, he's worth a shot.

[zootiehead]

Probably just betting J Gordon +325 and Fellows +1800

[Big_Cheese]

Juan Pablo Montoya +800 (2.5*)

Source: BetGameDay --- Best odds I can find on him. Some are currently +500

I still remeber just how good he was here last year !!!

[zootiehead]

I have to read up on last year (shit memory) but didnt he get some luck?

[rob]

I'm having a tough time understanding why Jeff Gordon is such a heavy favorite here.
Granted, he has a great history at this track, but most of this season he's underperformed at tracks in regards to his history at those places. And his practice times haven't really been spectacular.
Johnson qualified better and had better practice times but my book has him at +1585 while Gordon is +315.
What am I missing?

[diogee]

Yeah zootie I believe that he won it on fuel mileage last year.

rob...I am sure it boils down to Gordon owning Infineon and is one of the top road racers in the series.

[onlòóker]

Jeff Gordon has won 5 of the 10 races he ran there. Jimmie Johnson has a average of 20th in 6 races, with a best finish of 5th in 2004.

Those are the main reasons the odds are the way they are.

[sharktank1]

Originally Posted by Big_Cheese

Scott Pruitt replaced Reed Sorenson. He is on the field, I was able to get him and 17 other drivers at 25-1 odds to win and I laid $200 on the top 5 at 4-1, Scott Pruitt and 17 others. Feel great about this one. Some books still havent picked up on this. The one I wagered on Betgameday since updated the odds and they were slashed in half... Check you book andlook at the field odds.

In Saturdays' Sacramento BEE (newspaper) Pruitt (who is from nearby Auburn) had this to say:

"Truthfully, I was a little disappointed with our performance. It's a 105 degrees, which is smoking hot...We just seemed to slide around and really didn't have any bite during our run."

As an FYI, he qualified only 27'th in his Dodge.
No value here.

So I'm backing a couple of the known road course "ringers" instead.

# 60 Boris Said, @ (+) 2400,
# 1 Ron Fellows, @ (+) 1800.

GL Guys!

[hawk 5]

Originally Posted by sharktank1

In Saturdays' Sacramento BEE (newspaper) Pruitt (who is from nearby Auburn) had this to say:

"Truthfully, I was a little disappointed with our performance. It's a 105 degrees, which is smoking hot...We just seemed to slide around and really didn't have any bite during our run."

As an FYI, he qualified only 27'th in his Dodge.
No value here.

So I'm backing a couple of the known road course "ringers" instead.

# 60 Boris Said, @ (+) 2400,
# 1 Ron Fellows, @ (+) 1800.

GL Guys!

I don't think a road ringer has ever won this. Close a few times. Ron Fellows may run well, but Boris pisses too many regulars off with his overaggressive style. He'll get turned too often to win.

[hawk 5]

Adding J Gordon +395, autobet

[Mr Nuts]

Said vs Mcmurray
Mcmurray +105
5 units

[shock11]

Originally Posted by Big_Cheese

Juan Pablo Montoya +800 (2.5*)

Source: BetGameDay --- Best odds I can find on him. Some are currently +500

I still remeber just how good he was here last year !!!

Juan Pablo did not even get close to being good here last year. He got luck on fuel and won't get lucky twice.

I will take
Top 3 Ron Fellows 10 to 1
Robby Gordan to win 8 to 1
Top 3 Boris Said 9 to 1
Jamie McMurray to Win 25 to 1
Ambrose to win 20 to 1
Exacta box Robby Gordan/Ambrose 215 to1

[Mr Nuts]

Top 3 Harvick +515

[hawk 5]

Originally Posted by shock11

Juan Pablo did not even get close to being good here last year. He got luck on fuel and won't get lucky twice.

I will take
Top 3 Ron Fellows 10 to 1
Robby Gordan to win 8 to 1
Top 3 Boris Said 9 to 1
Jamie McMurray to Win 25 to 1
Ambrose to win 20 to 1
Exacta box Robby Gordan/Ambrose 215 to1

Good luck with that exacta, hope it hits. Then I win too.

[Big_Cheese]

Originally Posted by shock11

Juan Pablo did not even get close to being good here last year. He got luck on fuel and won't get lucky twice.

I will take
Top 3 Ron Fellows 10 to 1
Robby Gordan to win 8 to 1
Top 3 Boris Said 9 to 1
Jamie McMurray to Win 25 to 1
Ambrose to win 20 to 1
Exacta box Robby Gordan/Ambrose 215 to1

Montoya Tore through the entire field twice last year... hey will see... This is the only track Montoya will ever be good at, So he might even take out a teammate again to win.

[Big_Cheese]

Jeff Burton (-145) over Casey Mears (2.5*)

[avssakic]

Montoya +800
R Gordon +800
Said top 3 +1000

[Big_Cheese]

Carl Edwards (+100) (1.5*)
Greg Biffle vs Carl Edwards

Clint Bowyer (+100) (4*)
Martin Truex Jr vs Clint Bowyer


Source: SI

[Big_Cheese]

Jimmie Johnson +1540 (0.5*)

Carl Edwards +3280 (0.5)

Juan Pablo Montoya +800 (2.5*)

Ron Fellows +4865 (0.5)

[Big_Cheese]

Jeff Gordon (-120) over Tony Stewart (5*)

Source: Autobet

[avssakic]

well the retard busch brother and the stupid austrilian ambrose cost me today. flippin idiots

[hawk 5]

Kyle can drive rather well for a retard. Moving on.

[avssakic]

Originally Posted by hawk 5

Kyle can drive rather well for a retard. Moving on.

I was referring to the other one