[5mike5]

Alright fellas, NOW the real season starts as we leave the crap-shoots of Daytona, and head across the country to PHOENIX....now is where the real knowledge and handicapping work start to come into play...the nationwide series AND the CUP series will both be in action this weekend in the usual Saturday and Sunday afternoon time slots...The truck series is OFF for the next few weekends

My daytona speed weeks was nothing short of awful so i for 1 am ready to get to these racetracks and start going to work...as usual all the regulars posts and comments, opinion, picks ect ect are always welcomed and encouraged....this week we are going across the country to PHOENIX International Speedway

PHOENIX is a 1-mile D-shaped tri-oval with variable banking in the turns of 10-12 in turns 1&2 and 8-9 degrees in turns 3&4 and 8-9 degrees down the backstretch

This track was redone a few years ago and some of the same drivers have seemed to have a great feel for it and running up front almost every race...and winning ALOT

GOODLUCK this week crew!!! ive already broke open my notebooks and tapes and an getting to work!!

[leetreaper]

1st

[Vegas39]

Driver Averages at Phoenix in Recent Races (since Feb 2012) Driver Avg Finish ▾ Races Wins Top 5's Top 10's Top 20's Laps Led Poles Avg Start High Finish Low Finish DNF Avg Rating * 1 Kevin Harvick 4.25 4 2 3 3 4 173 0 10.8 1 13 0 124.0 detail 2 Brad Keselowski 6.50 4 0 2 3 4 56 0 16.3 4 11 0 111.2 detail 3 Denny Hamlin 8.50 4 1 3 3 3 125 0 6.5 1 28 0 104.1 detail 4 Kyle Busch 9.75 4 0 1 3 3 289 1 5.3 3 23 0 104.3 detail 5 Greg Biffle 10.00 4 0 1 2 4 40 0 15.5 3 17 0 86.2 detail 6 Jimmie Johnson 10.25 4 0 3 3 3 57 1 8.0 2 32 0 111.5 detail 7 Juan Pablo Montoya 10.25 4 0 0 1 4 12 0 18.5 6 12 0 85.1 detail 8 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 11.00 4 0 2 2 3 49 0 21.0 4 21 0 87.9 detail 9 Carl Edwards 12.50 4 1 1 1 3 158 0 18.8 1 21 0 95.7 detail 11 Kurt Busch 13.75 4 0 1 2 3 2 0 14.5 5 27 0 90.2 detail 10 Mark Martin 13.75 4 0 0 2 3 78 2 7.0 9 21 0 92.2 detail 12 Ricky Stenhouse Jr. 14.00 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 19.5 12 16 0 72.9 detail 13 Matt Kenseth 14.25 4 0 0 1 3 1 0 17.8 7 23 0 90.3 detail 14 A.J. Allmendinger 14.50 2 0 0 0 2 0 0 19.0 11 18 0 70.4 detail 15 Kasey Kahne 14.75 4 0 2 2 3 41 0 5.8 2 34 0 94.8 detail 16 Jeff Gordon 15.25 4 0 0 2 3 50 0 12.8 8 30 1 98.1 detail 17 Aric Almirola 15.50 4 0 0 0 4 0 0 15.5 12 19 0 79.1 detail 18 Tony Stewart 16.33 3 0 0 1 2 9 0 5.7 8 22 0 91.6 detail 19 Joey Logano 18.00 4 0 0 2 2 33 0 14.8 9 27 1 88.7 detail 20 Jeff Burton 18.25 4 0 0 1 3 7 0 19.8 10 33 1 79.0 detail 22 Paul Menard 19.00 4 0 0 1 3 0 0 14.0 9 31 0 78.7 detail 21 Ryan Newman 19.00 4 0 1 2 2 36 0 11.3 5 40 1 76.7 detail 23 Bobby Labonte 19.25 4 0 0 0 2 0 0 26.5 15 24 0 62.4 detail 24 Clint Bowyer 21.00 4 0 0 1 2 0 0 12.8 6 30 1 79.2 detail 25 Regan Smith 22.00 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 5.5 20 24 0 69.6 detail 27 Marcos Ambrose 23.50 4 0 0 0 2 0 0 18.3 18 32 1 69.5 detail 26 Martin Truex Jr. 23.50 4 0 0 2 2 29 0 12.8 7 43 1 69.0 detail 28 Jamie McMurray 25.00 4 0 0 0 1 2 0 23.5 18 37 1 65.8 detail 29 Elliott Sadler 25.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 22.0 25 25 0 56.5 detail 30 Casey Mears 25.50 4 0 0 0 1 0 0 32.3 14 39 1 57.1 detail 31 Brendan Gaughan 27.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 40.0 27 27 0 47.4 detail 32 Travis Kvapil 27.25 4 0 0 0 2 4 0 35.3 19 41 1 49.5 detail 33 J.J. Yeley 27.67 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 32.3 26 29 0 44.3 detail 34 Dave Blaney 28.00 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 33.3 23 33 0 45.0 detail 35 Danica Patrick 29.67 3 0 0 0 1 0 0 36.3 17 39 1 45.1 detail 38 Justin Allgaier 31.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 25.0 31 31 0 47.9 detail 37 Sam Hornish Jr. 31.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 26.0 31 31 1 65.4 detail 36 David Stremme 31.00 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 37.3 29 34 1 38.9 detail 39 David Gilliland 31.25 4 0 0 0 0 2 0 32.8 24 37 2 49.5 detail 40 Timmy Hill 31.50 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 39.5 29 34 0 33.4 detail 41 David Ragan 32.75 4 0 0 0 0 4 0 30.3 25 38 2 45.4 detail 42 Landon Cassill 33.50 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 31.8 25 42 1 41.4 detail 43 Ken Schrader 34.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 42.0 34 34 1 29.8 detail 45 Stephen Leicht 35.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 35.0 35 35 1 33.9 detail 44 David Reutimann 35.00 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 34.3 25 40 3 46.1 detail 46 Mike Bliss 35.67 3 0 0 0 0 1 0 37.7 24 42 2 36.7 detail 47 Josh Wise 36.50 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 33.8 35 38 3 33.9 detail 49 Joe Nemechek 37.00 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 41.3 31 40 3 32.2 detail 48 Reed Sorenson 37.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 24.0 37 37 1 36.3 detail 50 Michael McDowell 37.67 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 34.7 32 43 2 34.8 detail 51 Cole Whitt 40.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 29.0 40 40 1 39.5 detail 52 Robby Gordon 41.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 39.0 41 41 1 30.4 detail 53 Scott Speed 41.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 28.0 41 41 1 31.5 detail 54 Jason Leffler 42.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 40.0 42 42 1 28.8 detail 55 Scott Riggs 42.50 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 33.0 42 43 2 30.0 detail 56 Tony Raines 43.00 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 41.0 43 43 1 26.3 detail

[shaunovery]

Yes real work starts here .

[5mike5]

I didn't have any luck at wih Daytona. Need a winner this week

[Vegas39]

Have a feeling the 11 will be strong this weekend

[JayHorne3]

Have a feeling the 11 will be strong this weekend

Totally agree. Harvick has been stout here recently but will that continue in new equipment, new team? Not too confident for whatever reason

[shaunovery]

Strange Kenseth not the greatest round here but Denny and Kyle quite strong

[Vegas39]

Totally agree. Harvick has been stout here recently but will that continue in new equipment, new team? Not too confident for whatever reason

Was thinking same on Harvick , just not sure as strong here as in past.

[Vegas39]

TheGreek has their odds up
Nascar The Profit at CNBC 500 Feb 28 - Mar 2, 2014 - Odds to win

• Driver To Win Nascar The Profit At CNBC 500
  FEB 28, 2014 | 11:00 AM

• Jimmie Johnson
  +600

• Denny Hamlin
  +700

• Kyle Busch
  +800

• Kevin Harvick
  +800

• Brad Keselowski
  +1000

• Jeff Gordon
  +1000

• Matt Kenseth
  +1000

• Dale Earnhardt Jr
  +1200

• Tony Stewart
  +1500

• Kasey Kahne
  +1500

• Kurt Busch
  +1500

• Carl Edwards
  +1500

• Clint Bowyer
  +2000

• Joey Logano
  +2000

• Ryan Newman
  +3000

• Greg Biffle
  +3000

• Brian Vickers
  +4000

• Martin Truex Jr
  +4000

• Jamie McMurray
  +4000

• Austin Dillon
  +5000

• Field
  +2000

[5mike5]

Unlike any other year , is gonna take 2 months to really get a good read in harvick, Kurt, Newman, Larson, truex, ect ect and if odds reflect this. Probably not books dot know better not to. LOL.

I'm not sure f I'll stay away or not. Especially after what kennseth did with a new team and manufacter last seaso. Could go either way for a few if these guys

[Vegas39]

Oh he will win races I just think may take more time to gel.

[lesterdymond]

Hey Mikey, missed last weekend due to a family matter.. It was a bummer man but it looks like I saved myself a few bucks in the end.

GL this season Hope I will see a few H2H's from ya this weekend.

[Vegas39]

Sorry to hear about family issues Lester

[5mike5]

Hey Mikey, missed last weekend due to a family matter.. It was a bummer man but it looks like I saved myself a few bucks in the end.

GL this season Hope I will see a few H2H's from ya this weekend.

Hope family issues get better soon buddy

u didn't miss much from me, i had a lack luster speed weeks and I stopped betting jr so in future I'll be looking again. B4 I never would from losing on him there. Oh well his week we turn it around immediately. Hope to see ya aroud his weekend for Phoenix

[5mike5]

I lost the 1st three races last season h til I starting catching fire. On the cup series anyways.

Would like to get warmer up a lot earlier this season!

[5mike5]

There's def going to be a wait and see approach on the guys that switched teams and the younger guys. And it will take months probably to get the feel we need. Also Came with the Gen6 for me to really last season

[JayHorne3]

Odds at Dimes are posted

[Vegas39]

+2000 on last years race winner here

[JayHorne3]

+2000 on last years race winner here

Saw that too bud, very tempting

[uncle vinny]

since the repave, this track races alot like richmond. use to anyways, but now it is really close. if you flip the front and back streches almost identacle, except for the extra 1/4 mile in distance and the passing grove on the flat. however, really close. and the results bare that as well. hamlin (which i think you guys all had) edwards (which some of us had) and harvick (which i think everyone had) and edwards could have (should have) won if not for running out of fuel. but harvick did as well prior to the last stop so even steven.

this race will be a little different since there are no longe any ride heights so i think that the guys that like loose cars willbe good. one early play based on that is biffle at anything over 22/1. not to mention last year biffle started in the back and made it to the front for a stint. this is a very hard track to pass on, so maybe mike you can tell us ...did he race to the front or use pit calls to get there. in the first race. hamlin and busch both started at back for engines and raced up front. again same question as you say you re watch the races.

thanks in advance for that information.

also, mathucps fade jr. only kenseth way back when has gone back to back first to races. jr flying all over the country for interviews, yesterday on race hub said he still hasnt hit the wall. but its coming

[sweep]

NASCAR Track: Phoenix International Raceway

Select a TrackAtlanta Motor SpeedwayAuto Club SpeedwayBristol Motor SpeedwayCanadian Tire Motorsport ParkCharlotte Motor SpeedwayChicagoland SpeedwayDarlington RacewayDaytona International SpeedwayDover International SpeedwayEldora SpeedwayGateway Motorsports ParkHomestead-Miami SpeedwayIndianapolis Motor SpeedwayIowa SpeedwayKansas SpeedwayKentucky SpeedwayKentucky SpeedwayLas Vegas Motor SpeedwayMartinsville SpeedwayMichigan International SpeedwayNew Hampshire Motor SpeedwayPhoenix International RacewayPocono RacewayRichmond International RacewaySonoma RacewayTalladega SuperspeedwayTexas Motor SpeedwayWatkins Glen International

Track Vitals Location Avondale, Arizona Distance / Track Type 1 Mile Oval 9-11 degree bank Sprint Cup Top Race Speed 118.132 by Tony Stewart on 11/7/1999 Sprint Cup Top Qualifying Speed 138.766 by Kyle Busch on 11/9/2012 Nationwide Top Race Speed 115.145 by Jeff Burton on 11/4/2000 Nationwide Top Qualifying Speed 133.819 by Kyle Busch on 11/4/2004 Camping World Truck Top Race Speed 108.014 by Kevin Harvick on 11/8/2002 Camping World Truck Top Qualifying Speed 134.439 by Nelson Piquet Jr. on 11/9/2012

Sprint Cup Schedule Date Race Sun. 3/3 Subway Fresh Fit 500 Results | RaceTrax Sun. 11/10 AdvoCare 500 at Phoenix

Nationwide Schedule Date Race Sat. 3/2 Dollar General 200 fueled by AmeriGas Results Sat. 11/9 Phoenix 200

Camping World Schedule Date Race Fri. 11/8 Lucas Oil 150

Top Five Active Drivers at Phoenix International Raceway

Sprint Cup | Nationwide | Camping World

Driver	Starts	Poles	Wins	Top 5	Top 10	Avg Start	Avg Finish	Laps Comp. (% of all laps)	Laps Led
Jimmie Johnson	20	1	4	13	16	12.5	6.45	6282 (99.62%)	932
Mark Martin	33	3	2	12	21	11.64	9.42	10165 (98.1%)	911
Denny Hamlin	16	1	1	8	9	12.5	9.81	5045 (99.8%)	399
Jeff Gordon	29	3	2	10	20	10.93	11.38	8889 (97.53%)	389
Carl Edwards	18	3	2	7	11	11.94	11.83	5407 (95.16%)	350

Complete Active Driver Sta

[JayHorne3]

since the repave, this track races alot like richmond. use to anyways, but now it is really close. if you flip the front and back streches almost identacle, except for the extra 1/4 mile in distance and the passing grove on the flat. however, really close. and the results bare that as well. hamlin (which i think you guys all had) edwards (which some of us had) and harvick (which i think everyone had) and edwards could have (should have) won if not for running out of fuel. but harvick did as well prior to the last stop so even steven.

this race will be a little different since there are no longe any ride heights so i think that the guys that like loose cars willbe good. one early play based on that is biffle at anything over 22/1. not to mention last year biffle started in the back and made it to the front for a stint. this is a very hard track to pass on, so maybe mike you can tell us ...did he race to the front or use pit calls to get there. in the first race. hamlin and busch both started at back for engines and raced up front. again same question as you say you re watch the races.

thanks in advance for that information.

also, mathucps fade jr. only kenseth way back when has gone back to back first to races. jr flying all over the country for interviews, yesterday on race hub said he still hasnt hit the wall. but its coming

Good post Vinny,

I think you could also compare the last couple spring Richmond races for that very reason. Harvick (2013 winner) and Kyle Busch (2012 &2011 winner).

[DiggityDaggityDo]

+2000 on last years race winner here

Saw that too bud, very tempting

That makes 3 of us.

[5mike5]

I think everybody and their brother will at least look at Edwards and Kyle.

lkke I said earlier, I'm not convinced about harvick or any new team and driver til I see them on sidderent racetracks for a while and depending on their odds

[avssakic]

Newman 33-1 looks enticing

[5mike5]

Felt great spending 7 hours just today flipping and editing my driver notebooks. Watched a few races. Feels like I'm back at the job, but not actually in the groove yet

[Vegas39]

Few race match ups posted but none yet for qualifying

[5mike5]

Nationwide is STACKED this weekend

[5mike5]

Not sure why I thought I started 0-3 last year , but I has a big payday off harvick winning Phoenix after the 500. Just didn't have Edwards in the fall. Has to check my thread here after seeing that in my notebook from last year'a spring race. Just has mentioned I had bad start but I didn't.

Watching last years races already this morning after both from 2013 and watched spring 2012. So just sitting here working still editing notes

Made a few plays yesterday and if course they dropped like a rock but worse tha last year it seemed. Hope that doesn't continue.

Might need to to have more friends work on funding accounts for me. .

[5mike5]

Felt great spending 7 hours just today flipping and editing my driver notebooks. Watched a few races. Feels like I'm back at the job, but not actually in the groove yet

It's like riding a bike, I'm back in the working day groove now. Luckily my woman now works from 9-6 except Thursdays during the week so its nice and quite. Ahhhh. Love this time of year

[5mike5]

NBCsports network strats up a NASCAR show called NASCAR America every weekday at 5pm for. 30 min. I had never heard if it so I'm pretty sure its a new show

[onlooker]

Date	Event	Time	Radio/TV
WED 2/26	Mexico Toyota Series Practice	8:00 p.m. - 8:45 p.m.
	Mexico Toyota Series Practice	9:15 p.m. - 10:00 p.m.
THURS 2/27	K&N Pro Series West Practice	11:00 a.m. - 12:00 p.m.
	K&N Pro Series West Final Practice	12:30 p.m. - 1:30 p.m.
	K&N Pro Series West Qualifying	3:30 p.m.
	Mexico Toyota Series Practice	5:05 p.m. - 6:30 p.m.
	K&N Pro Series Talking Stick Resort 75	7:00 p.m.
FRI 2/28	Mexico Toyota Series Final Practice	12:00 p.m. - 12:50 p.m.
	Nationwide Series Practice	1:00 p.m. - 1:50 p.m.	FS1
	Sprint Cup Series Practice	2:00 p.m. - 3:30 p.m.	FS1
	Mexico Toyota Series Qualifying	3:40 p.m.
	Nationwide Series Final Practice	5:00 p.m. - 6:25 p.m.	FS1
	Sprint Cup Qualifying	6:40 p.m.	FS1
	Mexico Toyota Series Toyota 120	9:00 p.m.
SAT 3/1	Sprint Cup Series Practice	11:00 a.m. - 11:55 a.m.	FS1
	Nationwide Series Qualifying	12:10 p.m.	FS2
	Sprint Cup Series Final Practice	2:00 p.m. - 2:50 p.m.	FS2
	Radio Pre-Race	3:15 p.m.	MRN
	TV Pre-Race	3:30 p.m.	ABC
	Nationwide Series Blue Jeans Go Green 200	3:45 p.m.	MRN/ABC
SUN 3/2	Radio Pre-Race	2:00 p.m.	MRN
	TV Pre-Race	2:30 p.m.	FOX
	Sprint Cup Series The PROFIT On CNBC 500	3:00 p.m.	MRN/FOX

ALL TIMES EASTERN (Local time two hours behind)

[Vegas39]

Not sure why I thought I started 0-3 last year , but I has a big payday off harvick winning Phoenix after the 500. Just didn't have Edwards in the fall. Has to check my thread here after seeing that in my notebook from last year'a spring race. Just has mentioned I had bad start but I didn't.

Watching last years races already this morning after both from 2013 and watched spring 2012. So just sitting here working still editing notes

Made a few plays yesterday and if course they dropped like a rock but worse tha last year it seemed. Hope that doesn't continue.

Might need to to have more friends work on funding accounts for me. .

You are backwards Edwards won first race here last year

[uncle vinny]

Not sure why I thought I started 0-3 last year , but I has a big payday off harvick winning Phoenix after the 500. Just didn't have Edwards in the fall. Has to check my thread here after seeing that in my notebook from last year'a spring race. Just has mentioned I had bad start but I didn't.

Watching last years races already this morning after both from 2013 and watched spring 2012. So just sitting here working still editing notes

Made a few plays yesterday and if course they dropped like a rock but worse tha last year it seemed. Hope that doesn't continue.

Might need to to have more friends work on funding accounts for me. .

edwards won the spring and harvick the fall