1. 01-21-14 11:20 PM #1
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    Championship Futures

    Alright guys and gurus I'm ready to place some futures bets give me some advice I'm looking to lay a decent sum for exciting season action
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  2. 01-22-14 10:11 AM #2
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    gotta wait till they say the rules. but i have some early leans. take guys that are long now to make the chase then off set with a little jj action to cover your bets. has worked out great the last 5 years. last year jj was actually my biggest payday, once everyone got on the kenseth band wagaon and jj haveing bad races before the chase. they actually had better odds on jj win the chase started then in may. crazy how these books book the futures.

    early leans ( and again this is based on just makig the chase) biffle @40, hamlin and kahn @18, harvick @20 (which is a great number and he will most likely be my number 1 guys this year)
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  3. 01-22-14 11:07 AM #3
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    Hey Sub first off good luck this year and hope you've dug out of snow. As we talked about playing poker I have only bet two so far Hamlin as got a very good number ( plus wife loves him) and Brad who I think has a huge ounce back after last season.

    Only my opinion but wouldn't touch JJ at the +230 range he is at now. Hate tying up money for close to 40 weeks on such short odds. And a few less than stellar weeks and this price will climb IMO
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  4. 01-22-14 12:16 PM #4
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    Id take Logano over Hamlin as a long shot bet, that kid is really starting to come into his own.
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  5. 01-22-14 01:30 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by packerd_00 View Post
    Id take Logano over Hamlin as a long shot bet, that kid is really starting to come into his own.
    Not me I will take a healthy Hamlin over Joey anyway of week. See if Joey can do this year as he did last. I have my doubts
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  6. 01-22-14 01:31 PM #6
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    Ku Busch, Harvick, Hamlin, Kesolowski, Logano

    Like Ku Bush and Harvick a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by avssakic View Post
    Ku Busch, Harvick, Hamlin, Kesolowski, Logano

    Like Ku Bush and Harvick a lot
    Kurt has the talent but can he keep his head straight and not have meltdowns is my question
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Not me I will take a healthy Hamlin over Joey anyway of week. See if Joey can do this year as he did last. I have my doubts
    If I knew you from work or something id definetly offer to do a friendly bet with you on this one.
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    im on Jr Harvick so far
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  10. 01-22-14 10:16 PM #10
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    Keslowski @ 14-1 to win the championship is hard for even me to pass up on and I never bother with championship bets. He's gonna have a monster year. Book that.

    Also harvick 25-1 even though not sure what to expect from that team on year 1 but the value is there.

    Still doubt I mess with these bets now no matter what though. Just my opinion on a few with some value
    at good odds
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    Whats Loganos odds for this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packerd_00 View Post
    Whats Loganos odds for this year.
    +2300
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    +2300
    Cool thanks bud.
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  14. 01-23-14 11:27 AM #14
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    I really like Harvick +2500. Of course SHR has to improve on the 1-1.5 mile tracks, think they only had like 2 finishes better than 10th as a team in their first 10 races on the 1-1.5 track types last season and only a few top 5s throughout the entire season on those track types as well. However I am sure with their equipment and resources, they should bounce back. If they do, I can see Harvick having a big season and Kurt Busch for that matter.
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  15. 01-23-14 11:24 PM #15
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    I had forgotten about Kurt going there too.

    Mega team; Smoke, Happy, Sourpuss and Glamorpuss.

    Hope jumping from 2 to 4 cars isnt too much for them. So many more people needed, apart from the money. Wonder who will get the dregs for their crew.
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  16. 01-24-14 12:56 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I had forgotten about Kurt going there too.

    Mega team; Smoke, Happy, Sourpuss and Glamorpuss.

    Hope jumping from 2 to 4 cars isnt too much for them. So many more people needed, apart from the money. Wonder who will get the dregs for their crew.

    They had 3 last year
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  17. 02-14-14 12:54 PM #17
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    you guys see what william hill has done? this looks like some fun action bets for futures.

    http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/n...jimmie-johnson
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    Only 2 of our 5-6 regulars aren't in US so we xant play there
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  19. 02-14-14 03:10 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I had forgotten about Kurt going there too.

    Mega team; Smoke, Happy, Sourpuss and Glamorpuss.

    Hope jumping from 2 to 4 cars isnt too much for them. So many more people needed, apart from the money. Wonder who will get the dregs for their crew.
    Now THAT is a mega team. I'm hoping Kurt does really wll this seaso
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    There's a TON of good value on championship bets just because as long as u have the final 4 on the last race ur value is through the roof. But I still can't tie up 500-4figs for that long. But even tossing a few 100 on the longer double- digit shots actually might be fun to have something to root for. Especially since u will be rooting them on for every race not just a week. I mean I can just can justify it when I could win same amounts on any given week. But I could change my mind.
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  21. 02-14-14 05:59 PM #21
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    I like what they did..gives me a chance to weed out guys i dont think will be there and cash a ticket..brad as example...will make chase but the tire and feul strategy will keep him from final 4 unless he wins tx.....got some work to do as futers are my thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle vinny View Post
    I like what they did..gives me a chance to weed out guys i dont think will be there and cash a ticket..brad as example...will make chase but the tire and feul strategy will keep him from final 4 unless he wins tx.....got some work to do as futers are my thing

    Yea you have it all figured out add four more condos to portfolio

    Fukkin kids
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  23. 02-14-14 07:27 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Yea you have it all figured out add four more

    condos to portfolio

    Fukkin kids
    Wtf dude..
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  24. 02-14-14 07:31 PM #24
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    Documented vegas insider..reno radio..if you need proof
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  25. 02-14-14 07:34 PM #25
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    Gave this forum ryan blaney at kentucky and you didnt know what car he was in...i bring something to the table
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    Still..if you wanna have a beer vegas race weekend let me know
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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle vinny View Post
    Still..if you wanna have a beer vegas race weekend let me know

    rather have a root canal then drink with a fraud but GL on your bets kid
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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle vinny View Post
    you guys see what william hill has done? this looks like some fun action bets for futures.

    http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/n...jimmie-johnson
    Don't think I'll bother joining Will Hill for that, but like that they are offering something different. Maybe they will get more into NASCAR this year and make it worth trying them.

    Maybe other books will follow that lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    rather have a root canal then drink with a fraud but GL on your bets kid
    Fraud?..come on...play nice
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    Really..come on..bet we could be friends
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  31. 02-18-14 11:07 AM #31
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    got bored while watching quaifing on sunday. made a list of winners for the year and thus chase drivers. drivers with at least 1 win...

    48,20,18,5,4,24,11,2,99,41,15,16. so 12 drivers make it on wins. could be 14 if 1, or 9 hit the board. leaves either 2 or 4 spots on points. lean towards 88,14,22,78 for points. if amrose doesnt win on road coarse then i think final spot comes down to jamie or truex.

    with that said, lets look at first 3 chase races. winners have bonus points so feel that based on points those would be the 12 that advance, however of the 12 id say 16 would be most liekly not to advance since nh is a bad track for the biff. however, if he gets chicago or dover could still advance. first four out would be 1(or 9) 16, 22 and 88 (unless jr can get a win in first 26)

    next 3 as croney said may define championship. of 12 left andpoints now all equal, this is where kyle better get thru kansa or is going to need a win at charlotte. jj must be carefull as well as charlotte dont good for him lately. with that i project next four out as 22, 41, 14 and 99.

    and then there was 8...if jj get to here could be lights out. 3 tracks of martinsville, tx and pho got his name all over the place. should get a win to advance. others (again if they get here) would be 24 and 11. all are very good at the 3 tracks and could be race winners. if not 1 will make it on points or 2 if we have multi winner. (choices for that would be 48, or 11)..think its time for 5,4,2 and 20 to go home. list changes if klye is out then i think 4 goes thru.

    last race? ill take 11 in a trhilling finish over 18 and 24.

    so with that i got 6 units on hamlin @15 from wynn bet back in december before all changes came out, all my other early bets seem worhless at this point, but i do have some 5,4,16 and 22 (again bet back in december with the thought that they will at least make chase 12. now with 16 should make chase but the throw out formatt makes it a little tougher on these guys)

    william hill props found a few plays. jr elimited in challenger round 7/1. gordon out in championship round +3.5. kurt out in contender round +150. and kahne out in eliminator round +2.40
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    after yesterdays score, put 8 units on harvick at 12 and 10/1 to win cup. still think he has to get thru the first 3 (which should be easy with points, dont think he will win any of those) but after that he is top 4 at least
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    Weird seeing jj hold steady at around +225 considering you likely can get him for that the day of the last race
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  34. 03-05-14 08:10 AM #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by homervdoh View Post
    Weird seeing jj hold steady at around +225 considering you likely can get him for that the day of the last race
    Agree. But I suppose it does mean the odds are better on others because of it.
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  35. 03-23-14 07:14 AM #35
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    Ambrose 500-1 seems high considering hes gotta be 30-40% to win one race this year, I know his chase chances would still be way slim but not 500-1 slim
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