[Dad]

It's sure is nice to not have to wait 2 full weeks for the next race.

Race details
Race 11 of 20 in the 2012 Formula One season
The Hungaroring circuit
Date	July 29, 2012
Official name	Formula One Eni Magyar Nagydij 2012[1]
Location	Hungaroring, Mogyoród, Hungary
Course	Permanent racing facility 4.38 km (2.72 mi)
Distance	70 laps, 306.66 km (190.55 mi)

I have not made any bets yet. In fact I have no seen any odds yet. Has anybody seen odds for this race yet?

Drivers I am eye-balling:

Alonso
Vettel
Hamilton
Webber

[Optional]

here are some prices from Greek

Motor Racing	EXIT
Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Classified Drivers

7/27/2012 3:00 AM

Number of Classified Drivers will be

841

Over 20½ Classified Drivers

-140

842

Under 20½ Classified Drivers

+110

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Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Fastest Lap

7/27/2012 3:00 AM

Driver to record the Fastest Lap

801

Sebastien Vettel

+450

802

Lewis Hamilton

+600

803

Mark Webber

+800

804

Kimi Raikkonen

+800

805

Romain Grosjean

+800

806

Fernando Alonso

+800

807

Nico Rosberg

+1200

808

Michael Schumacher

+1200

809

Jenson Button

+1400

810

Sergio Perez

+1800

811

Kamui Kobayashi

+2200

812

Pastor Maldonado

+2500

813

Felipe Massa

+2500

814

Field

+2000

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Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Final Qualifying Session

7/27/2012 3:00 AM

Odds to win the Final Qualifying Session

761

Sebastien Vettel

+200

762

Lewis Hamilton

+450

763

Fernando Alonso

+500

764

Mark Webber

+800

765

Romain Grosjean

+1200

766

Jenson Button

+1200

767

Michael Schumacher

+1400

768

Kimi Raikkonen

+1400

769

Nico Rosberg

+1600

770

Field

+1200

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Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - First Constructor Retirement

7/27/2012 3:00 AM

First Constructor Retirement will be

821

HRT

+500

822

Marussia

+500

823

Caterham

+800

824

Williams

+800

825

Toro Rosso

+800

826

Lotus

+1000

827

Mercedes

+1000

828

Sauber

+1000

829

Force India

+1200

830

Ferrari

+1200

831

McLaren

+1400

832

Red Bull

+1400

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Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Odds to win

7/27/2012 3:00 AM

Odds to win Hungarian F1 Grand Prix

701

Sebastien Vettel

+300

702

Fernando Alonso

+300

703

Lewis Hamilton

+450

704

Mark Webber

+900

705

Jenson Button

+900

706

Kimi Raikkonen

+1200

707

Romain Grosjean

+1600

708

Michael Schumacher

+2200

709

Nico Rosberg

+2200

710

Field

+1000

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Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Top 10 Finishers

7/27/2012 3:00 AM

Driver to finish the Top 10 position

741

Sebastien Vettel

-600

742

Fernando Alonso

-600

743

Lewis Hamilton

-500

744

Mark Webber

-500

745

Jenson Button

-450

746

Kimi Raikkonen

-350

747

Romain Grosjean

-300

748

Michael Schumacher

-300

749

Nico Rosberg

-300

750

Felipe Massa

-150

751

Pastor Maldonado

-110

752

Sergio Perez

-150

753

Kamui Kobayashi

-140

754

Paul di Resta

+150

755

Nico Hulkenberg

+150

756

Bruno Senna

+275

757

Daniel Ricciardo

+500

758

Jean-Eric Vergne

+600

759

Field

+800

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Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Top 3 Finishers

7/27/2012 3:00 AM

Driver to finish in the Top 3 position

721

Sebastien Vettel

-160

722

Fernando Alonso

-160

723

Lewis Hamilton

+100

724

Mark Webber

+200

725

Jenson Button

+225

726

Kimi Raikkonen

+300

727

Romain Grosjean

+400

728

Michael Schumacher

+500

729

Nico Rosberg

+500

730

Felipe Massa

+1800

731

Sergio Perez

+800

732

Pastor Maldonado

+1400

733

Kamui Kobayashi

+1600

734

Field

+1000

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Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Winning Car

7/27/2012 3:00 AM

Winning Car will be

791

Red Bull

+185

792

Mclaren

+275

793

Ferrari

+275

794

Lotus

+700

795

Mercedes

+1100

796

Field

+1200

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Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Winning Margin

7/27/2012 3:00 AM

Winning Margin will be

845

Over 6 seconds

-140

846

Under 6 seconds

+110

[Dad]

Thanks Optional.

[Optional]

McLaren has won this race 4 of the last 5 years. With Mark Webber breaking the streak in 2010.

Button won last year, to back up his 2006 win in the not the so wonderful Honda at the time. So probably likes this track. Hamilton won it in 07 and 09, with his McLaren teammate Heikki Kovalainen taking his only F1 victory here in 08.

[Dad]

My bets to win the race, hoping for 3 races in a row with a profit:

Rosberg +2200 1 unit
Webber +900 1.8 units
Alonso +300 5.4 units

Going huge on Alonso and hoping Vettle does not screw me.

[Optional]

FIA issued a ruling against Red Bulls engine map system today.

Think you are the right side fading Vettel as a fave.

http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/...ap-controversy


Personally it's between McLaren and Lotus for me this weekend. And the hotter the weather the better I'm hoping.

[MatI]

I honestly think it will be out of Red Bull & McLaren drivers this weekend, but Dad is on a roll, so Rosberg or Alonso for the win!

Just a heads up guys, forecast for the weekend, Friday & Saturday will be hot & sunny, but Sunday is threatening to thunderstorms all day! At this stage, race is likely to be rain effected.

Pole position I like Red Bull or McLaren, previous history says McLaren, but current form edges slightly to Red Bull IMO.

[Optional]

Excellent preview by James Allen here: http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/0...an-grand-prix/

He likes Ferrari chances.

[Optional]

I honestly think it will be out of Red Bull & McLaren drivers this weekend, but Dad is on a roll, so Rosberg or Alonso for the win!

Just a heads up guys, forecast for the weekend, Friday & Saturday will be hot & sunny, but Sunday is threatening to thunderstorms all day! At this stage, race is likely to be rain effected.

Pole position I like Red Bull or McLaren, previous history says McLaren, but current form edges slightly to Red Bull IMO.

James Allen said rain for Friday by looks.

He also makes some worrying points about the change of tyre compunds from last year and how it disadvantages McLaren and Lotus.

[Dad]

FIA issued a ruling against Red Bulls engine map system today.

Think you are the right side fading Vettel as a fave.

http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/...ap-controversy


Personally it's between McLaren and Lotus for me this weekend. And the hotter the weather the better I'm hoping.

This is why I love F1. They are always trying to find ways around the rules without breaking them.

[MatI]

James Allen said rain for Friday by looks.

He also makes some worrying points about the change of tyre compunds from last year and how it disadvantages McLaren and Lotus.

James Allen is def wrong with regards to the weather. Weather patterns are changing a lot in the area. Very likely to rain later today, and then heat to build up again and come down on Sunday morning, it just depends if it stays raining up until race time, that is really the only question.

I follow two guys for weather reports and both excellent. I will dig up the latest report for ya.

I haven't read the JA preview yet, just got home, will check out his thoughts on McLaren/Lotus. My initial hunch is Red Bull will be car to beat in the dry, but still sussing out.

[MatI]

latest weather update - http://f1weather.com/2012/07/25/hung...day-am-update/

This is written by Emelyn Hughes, who writes for autosport magazine and website.

The other I follow is on twitter - @fergieweather

Lots of non-f1 related tweets, but he is the BBC News weatherman with a passion for f1. He also gives weather updates for MotoGP. He does it in his own time, but is very reliable and knows his stuff. He live tweets too, when weather is variable, and predicted last weekends rain in qualy to the minute.

[Optional]

Thanks Matt.

[shaunovery]

Possible rain on Friday 30% Saturday dry as a bone and hot Sunday 40% chance of rain

[MatI]

Latest forecast write up - http://f1weather.com/2012/07/26/hung...iday-forecast/

[Optional]

Latest forecast write up - http://f1weather.com/2012/07/26/hung...iday-forecast/

Great news. Need a dry Friday.

[Optional]

Anyone else thinking of having a lash on Fastest in P1?

[MatI]

I'm tempted... thinking Lewis... or SV. both with a chip on their shoulder after last weekend.

[Optional]

Agree. I got distracted and missed most it, and didnt bet. But was going to go Lewis. 15 mins to go

[MatI]

Sorry just saw this now. I got Lewis at 4.50 but just had $20 on it. Still, will take it. I like him again for P2...

[Optional]

Sorry just saw this now. I got Lewis at 4.50 but just had $20 on it. Still, will take it. I like him again for P2...

You and everyone else now. $2.88

At those odds think I prefer Alonso or Webber at around $10.00

[MatI]

I haven't taken anything yet. I can still get Lewis @ 3.00 but too short I think. Both Maccas were really comfy in the first session, I really like them to do it again in P2. Might take Button @ 6.00.

I don't like the Red Bulls to go for a fast time anymore. Looked like they were just sorting out the car after the new changes.

[5mike5]

is race around same time this week for me?

8am my time?

[Optional]

I haven't taken anything yet. I can still get Lewis @ 3.00 but too short I think. Both Maccas were really comfy in the first session, I really like them to do it again in P2. Might take Button @ 6.00.

I don't like the Red Bulls to go for a fast time anymore. Looked like they were just sorting out the car after the new changes.

Yeah I want to see the Red Bulls show some speed post rule changes before I spend a cent on them.

Button bet for P2 sounds smart.

is race around same time this week for me?

8am my time?

Yep. 8.00am ET start for most races, and all the European ones.

[MatI]

Taken Button small Opti. Agreed, I want to see them show their speed before I back them, im sure they will get it back but im thinking it might take a race or three.

8am my time?

Hopefully it isn't delayed on FOX again!

[5mike5]

yeah watching a race on stream blows

[MatI]

#F1#HUNGARORING: We've reached trigger temp for shower development now, with some isolated cells starting to show in the vicinity on radar.

[Optional]

looks like Lewis has it with the shower. :\

[MatI]

yep, bugger.

And old man schuey shunts it.

[byronbb]

McLaren has won this race 4 of the last 5 years. With Mark Webber breaking the streak in 2010.

Button won last year, to back up his 2006 win in the not the so wonderful Honda at the time. So probably likes this track. Hamilton won it in 07 and 09, with his McLaren teammate Heikki Kovalainen taking his only F1 victory here in 08.

Is this data from a public site?


edit

found it: http://racing-reference.info/trackdet/381/F/0

[Optional]

Half unit on Button $9.44 for fastest in P3


Jenson Button (Qualifying)* -165 vs Mark Webber (Qualifying)
Lewis Hamilton (Qualifying)* -150 vs Sebastian Vettel (Qualifying)

Parlayed for +168 1.5u

[MatI]

I like it opti, BOL. I took the following just before P3. I was going to take Lewis to do it again in P3 but backed out in case he decides to sandbag.

Pole Position - Lewis Hamilton @ 3.00 - 0.5u
Qual H2H - Rosberg @ 2.00 over Schumacher - 1u
Race Podium Finish - Lewis Hamilton @ 1.714 - risking 1u

[Optional]

Not sure I like it so much after P3. :\

[MatI]

Agreed, JB is the worry IMO. I think Lewis was solid, but RB are def right up there.

[Optional]

Agreed, JB is the worry IMO. I think Lewis was solid, but RB are def right up there.

I was duped by the 'normal' RBR slow P1 effort.

With you on Hamilton for pole @ $2.94