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    Formula 1: Hungarian Grand Prix

    It's sure is nice to not have to wait 2 full weeks for the next race.

    Race details
    Race 11 of 20 in the 2012 Formula One season

    The Hungaroring circuit
    Date July 29, 2012
    Official name Formula One Eni Magyar Nagydij 2012[1]
    Location Hungaroring, Mogyoród, Hungary
    Course Permanent racing facility
    4.38 km (2.72 mi)
    Distance 70 laps, 306.66 km (190.55 mi)


    I have not made any bets yet. In fact I have no seen any odds yet. Has anybody seen odds for this race yet?

    Drivers I am eye-balling:

    Alonso
    Vettel
    Hamilton
    Webber


  2. #2

    here are some prices from Greek


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    Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Classified Drivers
    7/27/2012 3:00 AM Number of Classified Drivers will be
    841 Over 20˝ Classified Drivers
    -140
    842
    Under 20˝ Classified Drivers +110
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    Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Fastest Lap
    7/27/2012 3:00 AM Driver to record the Fastest Lap
    803 Mark Webber +800
    807 Nico Rosberg +1200
    809 Jenson Button +1400
    810 Sergio Perez +1800
    813 Felipe Massa +2500
    814 Field +2000
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    Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Final Qualifying Session
    7/27/2012 3:00 AM Odds to win the Final Qualifying Session
    764 Mark Webber +800
    766 Jenson Button +1200
    768 Kimi Raikkonen +1400
    769 Nico Rosberg +1600
    770 Field +1200
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    Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - First Constructor Retirement
    7/27/2012 3:00 AM First Constructor Retirement will be
    821 HRT +500
    822 Marussia +500
    823 Caterham +800
    824 Williams +800
    825 Toro Rosso +800
    826 Lotus +1000
    827 Mercedes +1000
    828 Sauber +1000
    829 Force India +1200
    830 Ferrari +1200
    831 McLaren +1400
    832 Red Bull +1400
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    Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Odds to win
    7/27/2012 3:00 AM Odds to win Hungarian F1 Grand Prix
    704 Mark Webber +900
    706 Kimi Raikkonen +1200
    709 Nico Rosberg +2200
    710 Field +1000
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    Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Top 10 Finishers
    7/27/2012 3:00 AM Driver to finish the Top 10 position
    744 Mark Webber -500
    749 Nico Rosberg -300
    750 Felipe Massa -150
    752 Sergio Perez -150
    756 Bruno Senna +275
    759 Field +800
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    Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Top 3 Finishers
    7/27/2012 3:00 AM Driver to finish in the Top 3 position
    724 Mark Webber +200
    729 Nico Rosberg +500
    730 Felipe Massa +1800
    731 Sergio Perez +800
    734 Field +1000
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    Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Winning Car
    7/27/2012 3:00 AM Winning Car will be
    791 Red Bull +185
    792 Mclaren +275
    793 Ferrari +275
    794 Lotus +700
    795 Mercedes +1100
    796 Field +1200
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    Hungarian F1 Grand Prix July 27 - 29, 2012 - Winning Margin
    7/27/2012 3:00 AM Winning Margin will be
    845 Over 6 seconds -140
    846 Under 6 seconds +110
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    Thanks Optional.

  4. #4

    McLaren has won this race 4 of the last 5 years. With Mark Webber breaking the streak in 2010.

    Button won last year, to back up his 2006 win in the not the so wonderful Honda at the time. So probably likes this track. Hamilton won it in 07 and 09, with his McLaren teammate Heikki Kovalainen taking his only F1 victory here in 08.









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    My bets to win the race, hoping for 3 races in a row with a profit:

    Rosberg +2200 1 unit
    Webber +900 1.8 units
    Alonso +300 5.4 units

    Going huge on Alonso and hoping Vettle does not screw me.

  6. #6

    FIA issued a ruling against Red Bulls engine map system today.

    Think you are the right side fading Vettel as a fave.

    http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/...ap-controversy


    Personally it's between McLaren and Lotus for me this weekend. And the hotter the weather the better I'm hoping.
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  7. #7

    I honestly think it will be out of Red Bull & McLaren drivers this weekend, but Dad is on a roll, so Rosberg or Alonso for the win!

    Just a heads up guys, forecast for the weekend, Friday & Saturday will be hot & sunny, but Sunday is threatening to thunderstorms all day! At this stage, race is likely to be rain effected.

    Pole position I like Red Bull or McLaren, previous history says McLaren, but current form edges slightly to Red Bull IMO.

  8. #8

    Excellent preview by James Allen here: http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2012/0...an-grand-prix/

    He likes Ferrari chances.
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  9. #9

    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post
    I honestly think it will be out of Red Bull & McLaren drivers this weekend, but Dad is on a roll, so Rosberg or Alonso for the win!

    Just a heads up guys, forecast for the weekend, Friday & Saturday will be hot & sunny, but Sunday is threatening to thunderstorms all day! At this stage, race is likely to be rain effected.

    Pole position I like Red Bull or McLaren, previous history says McLaren, but current form edges slightly to Red Bull IMO.
    James Allen said rain for Friday by looks.

    He also makes some worrying points about the change of tyre compunds from last year and how it disadvantages McLaren and Lotus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    FIA issued a ruling against Red Bulls engine map system today.

    Think you are the right side fading Vettel as a fave.

    http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/...ap-controversy


    Personally it's between McLaren and Lotus for me this weekend. And the hotter the weather the better I'm hoping.
    This is why I love F1. They are always trying to find ways around the rules without breaking them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    James Allen said rain for Friday by looks.

    He also makes some worrying points about the change of tyre compunds from last year and how it disadvantages McLaren and Lotus.
    James Allen is def wrong with regards to the weather. Weather patterns are changing a lot in the area. Very likely to rain later today, and then heat to build up again and come down on Sunday morning, it just depends if it stays raining up until race time, that is really the only question.

    I follow two guys for weather reports and both excellent. I will dig up the latest report for ya.

    I haven't read the JA preview yet, just got home, will check out his thoughts on McLaren/Lotus. My initial hunch is Red Bull will be car to beat in the dry, but still sussing out.

  12. #12

    latest weather update - http://f1weather.com/2012/07/25/hung...day-am-update/

    This is written by Emelyn Hughes, who writes for autosport magazine and website.

    The other I follow is on twitter - @fergieweather

    Lots of non-f1 related tweets, but he is the BBC News weatherman with a passion for f1. He also gives weather updates for MotoGP. He does it in his own time, but is very reliable and knows his stuff. He live tweets too, when weather is variable, and predicted last weekends rain in qualy to the minute.

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    Thanks Matt.
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    Possible rain on Friday 30% Saturday dry as a bone and hot Sunday 40% chance of rain
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    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post
    Great news. Need a dry Friday.
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  17. #17

    Anyone else thinking of having a lash on Fastest in P1?

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  18. #18

    I'm tempted... thinking Lewis... or SV. both with a chip on their shoulder after last weekend.

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    Agree. I got distracted and missed most it, and didnt bet. But was going to go Lewis. 15 mins to go
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  20. #20

    Sorry just saw this now. I got Lewis at 4.50 but just had $20 on it. Still, will take it. I like him again for P2...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post
    Sorry just saw this now. I got Lewis at 4.50 but just had $20 on it. Still, will take it. I like him again for P2...
    You and everyone else now. $2.88

    At those odds think I prefer Alonso or Webber at around $10.00
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  22. #22

    I haven't taken anything yet. I can still get Lewis @ 3.00 but too short I think. Both Maccas were really comfy in the first session, I really like them to do it again in P2. Might take Button @ 6.00.

    I don't like the Red Bulls to go for a fast time anymore. Looked like they were just sorting out the car after the new changes.

  23. #23

    is race around same time this week for me?

    8am my time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post
    I haven't taken anything yet. I can still get Lewis @ 3.00 but too short I think. Both Maccas were really comfy in the first session, I really like them to do it again in P2. Might take Button @ 6.00.

    I don't like the Red Bulls to go for a fast time anymore. Looked like they were just sorting out the car after the new changes.
    Yeah I want to see the Red Bulls show some speed post rule changes before I spend a cent on them.

    Button bet for P2 sounds smart.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    is race around same time this week for me?

    8am my time?
    Yep. 8.00am ET start for most races, and all the European ones.
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    Taken Button small Opti. Agreed, I want to see them show their speed before I back them, im sure they will get it back but im thinking it might take a race or three.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    8am my time?
    Hopefully it isn't delayed on FOX again!

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    yeah watching a race on stream blows

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  27. #27

    #F1#HUNGARORING: We've reached trigger temp for shower development now, with some isolated cells starting to show in the vicinity on radar.

  28. #28

    looks like Lewis has it with the shower. :\
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  29. #29

    yep, bugger.

    And old man schuey shunts it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    McLaren has won this race 4 of the last 5 years. With Mark Webber breaking the streak in 2010.

    Button won last year, to back up his 2006 win in the not the so wonderful Honda at the time. So probably likes this track. Hamilton won it in 07 and 09, with his McLaren teammate Heikki Kovalainen taking his only F1 victory here in 08.










    Is this data from a public site?


    edit

    found it: http://racing-reference.info/trackdet/381/F/0

  31. #31

    Half unit on Button $9.44 for fastest in P3


    Jenson Button (Qualifying)* -165 vs Mark Webber (Qualifying)
    Lewis Hamilton (Qualifying)* -150 vs Sebastian Vettel (Qualifying)

    Parlayed for +168 1.5u
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  32. #32

    I like it opti, BOL. I took the following just before P3. I was going to take Lewis to do it again in P3 but backed out in case he decides to sandbag.

    Pole Position - Lewis Hamilton @ 3.00 - 0.5u
    Qual H2H - Rosberg @ 2.00 over Schumacher - 1u
    Race Podium Finish - Lewis Hamilton @ 1.714 - risking 1u

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    Not sure I like it so much after P3. :\
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  34. #34

    Agreed, JB is the worry IMO. I think Lewis was solid, but RB are def right up there.

  35. #35

    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post
    Agreed, JB is the worry IMO. I think Lewis was solid, but RB are def right up there.
    I was duped by the 'normal' RBR slow P1 effort.

    With you on Hamilton for pole @ $2.94
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