[5mike5]

just an FYI for people that pay attention to sessions

there will be alot of sandbagging going on for P1, going out early is a HUGE advantage in qualifying at indy

[shaunovery]

What effect does qualifying have here my quess would be not a lot plenty of oppuntunities to pass

[5mike5]

i mean its definatley not easy to pass at indy, but u can if ur car is better...plenty of room in the straights

its also definatley good to qualify up front, but far from a must

lots have been won from the teens and 20s starting position...27th is worst

[5mike5]

just hope fuel mileage doesnt cause another shit winner that doesnt deserve it, like menard last year

his car wasnt good at all

[5mike5]

side note:

DINGER's B sample is being tested in Nashville this morning, and results should be revealed tomorrow sometime

[Reno Paul]

Hope 5 Dimes doesn't pull the same crap as they did with New Hampshire. Like to see the odds come out today.

[5mike5]

who knows...its been a wild range for months now, but last week was a record...

even last week lines were same or better than greek even coming out late

only thing i hate is i wont sleep again til i see them!!

2 all-nighters blows (like 2 weeks ago)

[5mike5]

NATIONWIDE odds are already posted but cup isnt???

nationwide odds usually arent out til day after CUP are released

what the hell is going on over there/?

[Optional]

Glad I had an early night down here. Didn't miss anything by looks.

[Optional]

Anyone else think the NW race could produce a surprise winner? New cars on new track. Under powered cars who are probably going to play follow the leader a lot.

Or will that just make it even more likely the big names will rise to top?

[Dad]

I'm eye-balling these:

Johnson
Gordon
Stewart

[shaunovery]

Looks like the entire forum likes Gordon Stewart and 5time

[shaunovery]

Anyone else think the NW race could produce a surprise winner? New cars on new track. Under powered cars who are probably going to play follow the leader a lot.

Or will that just make it even more likely the big names will rise to top?

Think cream will rise as always but I'll be going against Kyle this week

[Dad]

What about McMurray for a long shot? What are the odds on him?

He does not do bad at this track from what I have seen.

[5mike5]

What about McMurray for a long shot? What are the odds on him?

He does not do bad at this track from what I have seen.

he could be a longshot...

gas mileage come into play here alot, thats only reason menard won last year...he didnt even have a top 10 car

odds ahvent been posted atb 5dimes yet for cup....nationwide has, which is odd...never seen that happen...ever

[5mike5]

Anyone else think the NW race could produce a surprise winner? New cars on new track. Under powered cars who are probably going to play follow the leader a lot.

Or will that just make it even more likely the big names will rise to top?

just my humble opinion opti, but i would be completley SHOCKED if a CUP series regular didnt win

tough to imagine guys that havent run at indy wiing, unless fuel mileage comes into play

people says is sister to pocono, but its really not that similar besides its a flat 2.5 mile track

[5mike5]

I'm eye-balling these:

Johnson
Gordon
Stewart

good choices, just depends if i can bet them all nd have room for 2 more doublr digit plays...

practices ahve NO concern whatso ever to me in my handicapping of races, so i already have a list of 8 drivers, i will choose 5 depending on openers...will wait on 1-2 maybe, and bet 3 right off the bat IF the odds are good

i bet all picks 3-4 different time usually leading all way up to the race, so if odds get better i just add to me original plays...but sometimes best odds u will ever see all week are openers...thats why i stay up all night starting monday night til they are posted

[Optional]

Thats a good point about many NW guys not having track experience.

Was thinking more about teams hitting a good setup or not the first time they have tried in these cars.

[MatI]

Pocono and Indy require almost identical setups, that is why they say they are similar. If you had a fast car at pocono, you will have a fast car at Indy.

Def agree that Nationwide race should be won by a Cup driver.

[Optional]

DAMN DAMN DAMN

Just thought to myself... bugger it, take a half unit on Hornish now at +2800... you'll kick yourself later if he is a front runner again this week.

Hit the bet button, and BOOM.... odds drop to +1800!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[5mike5]

DAMN DAMN DAMN

Just thought to myself... bugger it, take a half unit on Hornish now at +2800... you'll kick yourself later if he is a front runner again this week.

Hit the bet button, and BOOM.... odds drop to +1800!!!!!!!!!!!!!

he may get better later OPTI, i almost guarntee it man

hes never been good at INDY in nascar...terrible actually

[Optional]

Oh well, doubt I will want him if he drifts back out there now anyway. Will only be due to bad news or poor practice.

Still this is gonna piss me off until the race is over now.

God help me if he wins this.

[5mike5]

Pocono and Indy require almost identical setups, that is why they say they are similar. If you had a fast car at pocono, you will have a fast car at Indy.

Def agree that Nationwide race should be won by a Cup driver.

nopt always tru, some dont even bring same chassis....most dont actually

they arent that similar of a track

why u think hamlin, the best pocono drivers there is, is TERRIBLE at indy

all im saying is just cause u have goos at pocono, doesnt always translate to good run at indy

[shaunovery]

Pocano and Indy very different same drivers don't win at both IMO

[5mike5]

jimmy's primaryn for INDY is from NEW HAMSHIRE....not even close to same track

just cause pocono and indy are both flat, thats not all its about to me

chassis selections are most over rated thing u could factor in a race

imhp that is

[5mike5]

Pocano and Indy very different same drivers don't win at both IMO

just cause both are flat and 2.5 miles long doesnt make them almost same track

[5mike5]

Oh well, doubt I will want him if he drifts back out there now anyway. Will only be due to bad news or poor practice.

Still this is gonna piss me off until the race is over now.

God help me if he wins this.

imho, it all depends on others...most money will be going on the top CUP drivers because they have MUCH MUCH experience over these guys

day of the race, hornish will plummet again, i almsot guarntee u that, IF not b4 then

[shaunovery]

Jimmy +750
Gordon +1300

[Reno Paul]

Smoke +800
Gordon +1300
Kahne +1300

[shaunovery]

Gordon +800 now

[Reno Paul]

Gordon +800 now

WOW!!! I just seen that!!!

[shaunovery]

Looks like the NASCAR sbr forum has spoke

[5mike5]

that was my fault guys/...

srry bout gordon

[shaunovery]

At least I got some of it lol

[shaunovery]

Just got some more 12-1 at the Greek