[Optional]

*185 points jackpot from last race to start off the prize pool*


Pros: 22 points to play
Non-Pros: 4 points minimum (see bottom of post for non-pro rules)

2 points from each entry goes into the Season Long Pool.

Winner: 75%
Second: 25%


Pick the winner of these 5 matchups;


Matchups to go up Thursday


Also predict the RACE WINNER and HOW MANY CARS FINISH ON THE LEAD LAP to break any ties.

Tiebreaker 1: Highest finish by race winner pick.
Tiebreaker 2: Closest to number of lead lap finishers.
Tiebreaker 3: First person to have posted their picks.

Please post your points when you pick by clicking the gold coin icon bottom left of this post.

Make your picks anytime up until actual race start time. Scheduled for 7.30pm Saturday Night.



Non-Pro Rules

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You are eligible for 100% of the Season Long pool.

If a Non-Pro wins, the un-claimed portion of the prize jackpots to the following race.

[Optional]

Pick the winner of these 5 matchups;

Junebug Earnhardt v Happy Harvick
Awesome Bill Elliot v Daytona 500 Winner Trevor Bayne
Candyass Candyman Kyle Busch v Jeff Flash Gordon
2 time Daytona 500 winner Mikey Waltrip v Shake N Bake Dave Blaney
Kurt Ears Busch v Sliced Bread Joey Logano

Also predict the RACE WINNER and HOW MANY CARS FINISH ON THE LEAD LAP to break any ties.

[yisman]

Junebug Earnhardt
Daytona 500 Winner Trevor Bayne
Candyass Candyman Kyle Busch
2 time Daytona 500 winner Mikey Waltrip
Kurt 'Nuts' Busch

winner: Junebug
21 on lead lap


BTW, Blaney's nickname is actually Start 'N Park

[Optional]

BTW, Blaney's nickname is actually Start 'N Park

Whatever it takes to get people to take Mikey ;-)

That team doesn't park as standard btw. Well maybe 2 or 3 times this year, but their aim is to race. If they have enough cash for enough tires... (which I think they will this week like they did in Daytona 500 and Dega race, where they were competitive.)

[yisman]

this year they haven't but blaney's team is famous for it, because they sort of began the craze of regularly parking.

[onlooker]

Junebug Earnhardt v Happy Harvick
Awesome Bill Elliot v Daytona 500 Winner Trevor Bayne
Candyman Kyle Busch v Jeff Flash Gordon
2 time Daytona 500 winner Mikey Waltrip v Shake N Bake Dave Blaney
Kurt Ears Busch v Sliced Bread Joey Logano

Winner>Kyle Busch
Lead Lap Cars>23

[Vegas39]

Earnhardt

Bayne

Gordon

Waltrip

Kurt

Kenseth

24 on lead lap

[CarolinaDaze]

JR.
Trevor B.
Jeff G.
Mike W.
Kurt B.

Winner: Greg B.
LLC: 23

[GP]

Earnhardt
Bayne
Ky Busch
Waltrip
Logano

Hamlin to win
22 on LL

[Optional]

this year they haven't but blaney's team is famous for it, because they sort of began the craze of regularly parking.

It's going to get harder for start and park operations next year. 2 new top teams from other series entering the field will squeeze out one or two straight away.

[Optional]

Junebug Earnhardt v Happy Harvick
Awesome Bill Elliot v Daytona 500 Winner Trevor Bayne
Candyass Candyman Kyle Busch v Jeff Flash Gordon
2 time Daytona 500 winner Mikey Waltrip v Shake N Bake Dave Blaney
Kurt Ears Busch v Sliced Bread Joey Logano

Winner: Ambrose!
Lead Lap: 25

[yisman]

It's going to get harder for start and park operations next year. 2 new top teams from other series entering the field will squeeze out one or two straight away.

By the way, here's an article from 2009.



Another:

Prism Motorsports, which owns the No. 66 car driven by Dave Blaney, has earned over $1.1 million this season despite finishing just two of 12 races.

[Optional]

I used to play a start n park game on a Nationwide series forum I used to post at. About 25 people or more would have a go at picking the correct number of parkers and the order cars would drop out.

I didn't like them to start with either. But I think you just don't get the model. There is always going to be some shitty cars at the back. If they don't have full fields the ones at the back will very fast become terrible and we will have a much worse problem of donkeys interfering in the race. Paying all the way to the back keeps 43+ teams turning up even in bad economic times like now. It's a natural control on how shitty the back of the field can be.

The other big benefit of having those half dozen teams at the track every week is they keep surplus team members and third party suppliers employed in the down times.

[yisman]

I used to play a start n park game on a Nationwide series forum I used to post at. About 25 people or more would have a go at picking the correct number of parkers and the order cars would drop out.

Fun!

If they don't have full fields the ones at the back will very fast become terrible and we will have a much worse problem of donkeys interfering in the race.

I don't understand.

The other big benefit of having those half dozen teams at the track every week is they keep surplus team members and third party suppliers employed in the down times.

I don't like it. I don't know what to do with the surplus team members, but this system just seems illogical to me.

Sorry for sidetracking the picks thread.

[5mike5]

yeah i have to agree...its not like it bothers anything for them to do it, and it is a good thing overall

some even make it to be actual teams that race the whole race

[Optional]

Fun!

Thought that would be one you would play The game started as we hated so many start and parkers and it was to make fun of them. A bunch of team members posted on the forum too and arguments would errupt over it with the actual team members at times.

Busch (Nationwide) racing was in a slump at the time and some weeks there would be 10+ parkers.

I don't understand.

As it is now everyone has to be fast to get into the race. Even if they seem a bit slow compared to the front teams, they are not at all. If not for that competition for last place we would end up with a bunch of 4 year old chassis with rented engines circulating at 10mph below the leaders.

If they only paid prizemoney for say top 10 the purses would be gigantic and the gap between rich and poor teams would expand fast, eventually killing off most of the feeder teams we have now. Teams where drivers like Kurt Busch can get a drive, or Trevor Bayne can get a start.


I don't like it. I don't know what to do with the surplus team members, but this system just seems illogical to me.

I get that. It's not sporting. It's easy to despise. Until you really think about why NASCAR does it and the downsides of them not doing it. And seriously, it will improve next year and each year the economy does.


Sorry for sidetracking the picks thread.

...

[yisman]

I wasn't saying only prizes for top 10. Just to cut off prizes for the last 5-10 spots. No one would park because they'd get nothing.

[Optional]

We got together $1600 and bought a set of tires for Morgan Shepard one race so he would race to the end when he first started star n parking.

[5mike5]

what a great guy he is

[Optional]

I wasn't saying only prizes for top 10. Just to cut off prizes for the last 5-10 spots. No one would park because they'd get nothing.

Yeah sounds logical, but what do they do, alter the number of starters each year depending on demand? And where do the new people come from when it's time to expand again?

I'm not saying it's a perfect system, but after years of rule tweaking it's not as ill-considered or nonsensical as it often seems to people the first time they hear about it.

[5mike5]

Dalr Jr.
T. Bayne
Kyle Busch
Dave Blaney
Kurt Busch

winner: Tony Stewart

LLC: 18

[rickie65]

Junebug Earnhardt v Happy Harvick
Awesome Bill Elliot v Daytona 500 Winner Trevor Bayne
Candyass Candyman Kyle Busch v Jeff Flash Gordon
2 time Daytona 500 winner Mikey Waltrip v Shake N Bake Dave Blaney
Kurt Ears Busch v Sliced Bread Joey Logano

winner - kahne
coll -- 22

[BadNina]

Junebug Earnhardt v Happy Harvick
Awesome Bill Elliot v Daytona 500 Winner Trevor Bayne
Candyass Candyman Kyle Busch v Jeff Flash Gordon
2 time Daytona 500 winner Mikey Waltrip v Shake N Bake Dave Blaney
Kurt Ears Busch v Sliced Bread Joey Logano

Welcome back to the winners circle, Tony Stewart. May I say you are looking incredibly sexy and are the reason Mr. Nina won't take me to 'Dega? And if this doesn't keep my jinx on Kyle...I will boil some eye of newt. 17 cars on the lead lap.

[leadfootfred]

Junebug Earnhardt v Happy Harvick
Awesome Bill Elliot v Daytona 500 Winner Trevor Bayne
Candyass Candyman Kyle Busch v Jeff Flash Gordon
2 time Daytona 500 winner Mikey Waltrip v Shake N Bake Dave Blaney
Kurt Ears Busch v Sliced Bread Joey Logano

winner - Kasey Kayne
lead lap - 21

[5mike5]

Junebug Earnhardt v Happy Harvick
Awesome Bill Elliot v Daytona 500 Winner Trevor Bayne
Candyass Candyman Kyle Busch v Jeff Flash Gordon
2 time Daytona 500 winner Mikey Waltrip v Shake N Bake Dave Blaney
Kurt Ears Busch v Sliced Bread Joey Logano

Welcome back to the winners circle, Tony Stewart. May I say you are looking incredibly sexy and are the reason Mr. Nina won't take me to 'Dega? And if this doesn't keep my jinx on Kyle...I will boil some eye of newt. 17 cars on the lead lap.

[blueghost]

jr;
bayne
kyle
waltrip
kurt


BRAD K winner

18 cloll

[OnenOnlyMush]

Harvick
Elliot
Gordon
Blaney
Logano

Kasey Kahne FTW
28 cars on LL

[5mike5]

Dalr Jr.
awsome bill
Kyle Busch
Dave Blaney
Kurt Busch

winner: Tony Stewart

LLC: 18

changed a pick

[Vegas39]

Nina

[5mike5]

Nina

that was funny

Mr. nina

[Vegas39]

Ok which of you is Mr Nina

[WolverineFan]

Harvick
Bayne
Kyle Busch
Blaney
Lagono

Win:Kyle Busch
LL: 30

[shaunovery]

here goes

dale jr to bt harvick
bayne to bt bill elliot
kyle to bt gordon
mike waltrip to bt blaney
joey logano to bt kurt b

winner kenseth

llc = 31

[luvtogamble]

jr
elliott
kyle busch
waltrip
logani

winner kenseth
24 cars on lead lap

[yisman]

changing to:

Junebug Earnhardt
Daytona 500 Winner Trevor Bayne
Candyass Candyman Kyle Busch
2 time Daytona 500 winner Mikey Waltrip
Kurt 'Nuts' Busch

winner: Kenseth
27 on lead lap