[5mike5]

they were weeks i looked


greek started jimmy +600, 5dimes was higher

along with biffle and kennseth (+800 on greek, both opened better at 5dimes( +850/+950)(still are


i could care less where people ply at? doesnt concern me either way.thought most US guys did only reason i even mention it

[Vegas39]

I don't know why you say this every week Mike. Repeating it each week in not going to make it true. Some drivers are always better at each one every week!

Both favorites are better prices at Greek this week, which has been the case 2 or 3 times in last 4 or 5 races!

We have all loved 5D for NASCAR, but they no longer offer us the best prices. You would be better changing your tune and maybe putting some pressure on 5D to go back to 40% vig in win markets and 30 cents on head2heads. And give us back the extra props like top 10s.

Someone like Betislands et al should walk in here and give us what we used to have and take over the market. That's what deserves to happen to 5D after the way they are screwing us to the floor on value this year.

Couldnt agree more

[5mike5]

i cant find better openers anywhere im allowed to play

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i could care less where any1 plays at...

but U.S. players get the best #s there(on to win the race when opens) and thought most of us in states use that market

or i would play elsewhere very quick, since it would only serve me better

I genuinely think you would make more money if you had multiple outs, maybe a surprising amount more. Always been a little confused why you don't considering you love to chase the best odds too.

Imagine being able to look down the list at 5D, Bookmaker and Bovada and pick off the odds as well as jumping the 5D openers. You'd love it.

[yisman]

I don't know why you say this every week Mike. Repeating it each week in not going to make it true. Some drivers are always better at each one every week!

Both favorites are better prices at Greek this week, which has been the case 2 or 3 times in last 4 or 5 races!

We have all loved 5D for NASCAR, but they no longer offer us the best prices. You would be better changing your tune and maybe putting some pressure on 5D to go back to 40% vig in win markets and 30 cents on head2heads. And give us back the extra props like top 10s.

Someone like Betislands et al should walk in here and give us what we used to have and take over the market. That's what deserves to happen to 5D after the way they are screwing us to the floor on value this year.

I agree, very hard to bet at 5 Dimes for NASCAR now, they suck all the value out

bookmaker/dsi have enormous vig but occasionally you can get a good price (like opti tipped me off to ambrose +500 last week)

[5mike5]

wonder why 5dimes did take away the top 10, and top 5 markets

they were up all year and just disappered last 2 months ago

remember last year they had H2H for example: jimmy (-2.5 over) stewart and so on finishing positions

[5mike5]

im not opposed to play more at any shop and very well may

but i havent needed to, not like its always been this way at 5dimes

and i have looked at other books opening odds, and they arent as good

[yisman]

The Greek has Kyle +1200

5 Dimes has +650

Can't bet at The Greek, but I'd try +1200 if I could.

[5mike5]

greek kyle is +700

u are looking at "odds to win championship" not the race Yis

kyle opened at +700 on 5dimes too, its just been bet down...all im saying is for openers i can find better, and for me, i rely much more early in week for my plays than late (usually)

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wonder why 5dimes did take away the top 10, and top 5 markets

they were up all year and just disappered last 2 months ago

remember last year they had H2H for example: jimmy (-2.5 over) stewart and so on finishing positions

I'm guessing it's a staffing issue.

They probably had a hard working guru running those and winning for them last year. What's the bet whoever took over this year simply could not cope with the work or was losing on those markets consistently.

I think that is probably behind the extra vig too. Making up for a new but not so sharp a linesman.

[yisman]

whoops, yeah I guess I looked at the wrong one

+1200 on kyle to win the cup is a ripoff

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The Greek has Kyle +1200

5 Dimes has +650

Can't bet at The Greek, but I'd try +1200 if I could.

HA>.. now that would be nice if true!

[5mike5]

I'm guessing it's a staffing issue.

They probably had a hard working guru running those and winning for them last year. What's the bet whoever took over this year simply could not cope with the work or was losing on those markets consistently.

I think that is probably behind the extra vig too. Making up for a new but not so sharp a linesman.

i never got to play with those markets

just now really getting into H2H plays

be nice to have something more

do other books have those plays??

[5mike5]

not sure if any you guys remember this or not, but remember when 5dimes did not have markets up for gatorade duels this season?

[5mike5]

not sure if any you guys remember this or not, but remember when 5dimes did not have markets up for gatorade duels this season?

anyways, i got on chat and asked, got tranfered tov tony on chat, and asked why they were avaliable? (keep in mind i didnt play at 5D to start last nascar season)...i just figured they would and found it odd since its really 1st races of the year.....figured most would play it...

he said: "thats not a major event is it?"....(like all they do is major events,) but i said yes i think it is for any nascar bettor

he goes on to tell me, "we will have even MORE options in nascar this season than we even did last year", but not those races



now no H2H positions, top 5, or top 10 markets

[5mike5]

how did i miss the KURT BUSCH interview after last weeks race?!

man he teared up and got emotional??!!

seems planned

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I split a unit on these two to get started.

+1800 Quaker State 400 - Brad Keselowski
+5500 Quaker State 400 - AJ Allmendinger

Simply based on how well both Penske cars ran last year. So not strong on them, just interested.

[5mike5]

several of us like big brad this week

has to be a good sign right?!

hes good at kansas and ran well here last year i think its a solid early play

hoping truex has a good run too, longshot, just off him being great at kansas this year

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how did i miss the KURT BUSCH interview after last weeks race?!

man he teared up and got emotional??!!

seems planned

I didn't hear baout that either

is this the interview? 8mins in press center? Or are we talking about one track side?

[5mike5]

well this interview was done right after race on pit road im speaking of

i mean he was 1 sec. from tears..

1st interview from pit road when he out out of the car


i have no idea how to post or paste anything or i would find it

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well this interview was done right after race on pit road im speaking of

i mean he was 1 sec. from tears..

1st interview from pit road when he out out of the car


i have no idea how to post or paste anything or i would find it

Can't find it.

[5mike5]

i cant either still looking though

he was just on local tv here, and they played it

i mean he was emotional as ive ever seen him

[5mike5]

if u guys can find the tnt broadcast, it was on TV when they interview drivers on pit road right after the race

its a good watch

[shaunovery]

Seems you guys had a good banter while I was asleep

Taking odds is your own personal choice we all choose to use our favourite books

Me personally I've missed early value Ill wait till my books open

Bet365 paddypower as they bet 1-4 1234 I bet my drivers to finish in 1st 4 for a payout and if things go well you get paid out maybe 2 or 3 times

[Vegas39]

I saw it was a good interview a humble Kurt

[5mike5]

I saw it was a good interview a humble Kurt

it HAS to be on the web right?

[5mike5]

Seems you guys had a good banter while I was asleep

Taking odds is your own personal choice we all choose to use our favourite books

Me personally I've missed early value Ill wait till my books open

Bet365 paddypower as they bet 1-4 1234 I bet my drivers to finish in 1st 4 for a payout and if things go well you get paid out maybe 2 or 3 times

those 1234 market is a awsome thing to have imo...

finishing 2-4 instead of 1 wouldnt be near as heartbreaking...LOL

[Vegas39]

it HAS to be on the web right?

Checked YouTube and not there but will look around

[5mike5]

voice cracking, teared up, but very humbled

talked how proud he was, but u know its really just what hes been through

if he wasnt on probation, bowyer would NOT have won that race..hahahah..he would have dumped in turn 11

[shaunovery]

Well no mike lets take jimmy this week if I back him at 5-1 100£ e/w total stakes 200£ if he wins I'll get back 825 if he comes 2.3.4 I'll get 225£ back

[5mike5]

i see

wish that option was available around these parts

[shaunovery]

That would be good for American players it's seem your government are killing the options for u.s bettors

[5mike5]

never understand why they just dont tax it, same for poker


its just stupid...couldnt imagine having a full slate of books to choose from

and no matter whos is power, wont ever be legal nationwide imo...least no time soon

[5mike5]

like ambrose>menard in qualifying

but -140 already....