[Reno Paul]

Just took JJ +575 and Brad K +1850

[yisman]

Interesting. JJ hasn't won since 2005 and Kahne has won twice since.

[5mike5]

Interesting. JJ hasn't won since 2005 and Kahne has won twice since.

jimmy won last race at charlotte just in fall of 2009....

and has won 6 of last 18 at charlotte overall

[yisman]

jimmy won last race at charlotte just in fall of 2009....

and has won 6 of last 18 at charlotte overall

reutimann won this particular race. do you mean another race?

edit: you're referring to the 2009 NASCAR bank 500, which JJ won at this track

I was referring to the COCA-COLA 600

[Reno Paul]

Interesting. JJ hasn't won since 2005 and Kahne has won twice since.

I'm really considering Kahne. Haven't played it yet though.

[5mike5]

reutimann won this particular race. do you mean another race?

rueitamann won the coke 600 of 2009

jimmy johnson won the fall race at charlotte in 2009

[5mike5]

I'm really considering Kahne. Haven't played it yet though.

i am too but not at +1300 early

[yisman]

yeah I edited as you were posting.

At the track, JJ has had a lot more cracks at it (he raced there thrice in 2009, for example). I just am referring to this race, which he hasn't won in seven years.

[5mike5]

oh yeah...just meant the racetrack...

his stats are heads above the field at charlotte, so no way i could ever leave him off at charlotte

f the 2009 win was big for me, if he had not won here in longtime, i would not feel as strong....

hes had engine trouble, and been wrecked several times last few 600s

[Reno Paul]

Hope odds will go up on Kahne before qualifying. +1500 and higher would be good.

[5mike5]

so much happens in a damn 600 mile race there really isnt 1 favorite

[Reno Paul]

From MRN

Past Charlotte Motor Speedway Winners

Year	Race	Driver	Starting Pos.	Make
2011	BkofAma 500	Matt Kenseth	2	Ford
2011	Coca-Cola 600	Kevin Harvick	28	Chevrolet
2010	BkofAma 500	Jamie McMurray	27	Chevrolet
2010	Coca-Cola 600	Kurt Busch	2	Dodge
2009	NASCAR Banking 500	Jimmie Johnson	1	Chevrolet
2009	Coca-Cola 600	David Reutimann	21	Toyota
2008	BkofAma 500	Jeff Burton	4	Chevrolet
2008	Coca-Cola 600	Kasey Kahne	2	Dodge
2007	BkofAma 500	Jeff Gordon	4	Chevrolet
2007	Coca-Cola 600	Casey Mears	16	Chevrolet
2006	BkofAma 500	Kasey Kahne	2	Dodge
2006	Coca-Cola 600	Kasey Kahne	9	Dodge
2005	UAW-GM Quality 500	Jimmie Johnson	3	Chevrolet
2005	Coca-Cola 600	Jimmie Johnson	5	Chevrolet
2004	UAW-GM Quality 500	Jimmie Johnson	9	Chevrolet
2004	Coca-Cola 600	Jimmie Johnson	1	Chevrolet
2003	UAW-GM Quality 500	Tony Stewart	6	Chevrolet
2003	Coca-Cola 600	Jimmie Johnson	37	Chevrolet
2002	UAW-GM Quality 500	Jamie McMurray	5	Dodge
2002	Coca-Cola 600	Mark Martin	25	Ford
2001	UAW-GM Quality 500	Sterling Marlin	13	Dodge
2001	Coca-Cola 600	Jeff Burton	18	Ford
2000	UAW-GM Quality 500	Bobby Labonte	2	Pontiac
2000	Coca-Cola 600	Matt Kenseth	21	Ford

[5mike5]

qualifying doesnt mean anything here either...much more so since double-file restarts

[5mike5]

NATIONWIDE RACE

went ahead and took "candy man" kyle busch (+450)

shocked his odds are that good since his nationwide program has obviously hit its stride now...not to mention hes a great at charlotte

will take 1 more later

love him for his 1st win in his own equipment

also kinda like lagano +750...been on fire in that 20 machine latley, and this is joeys best track

may bet little more than usual on nationwide this week....

[yisman]

so much happens in a damn 600 mile race there really isnt 1 favorite

well you were saying JJ! By odds he's the clear favorite.

[5mike5]

well you were saying JJ! By odds he's the clear favorite.

hes pre-race favorite, but doesnt mean i dont think 20 other guys cant win it or id just bet jimmy...lol

just meant after 400 miles or so wont matter who the favorite was b4 the race started because so much will happen througout the night of a 5 hour event

that said, if i had only 1 pick would be jimmy or kennseth....thankfully dont have to choose

[5mike5]

just a race of attrition as much as anything else

engines and drivers only have to go 600 miles 1 time a year, and both fall victim to it

[5mike5]

Hope odds will go up on Kahne before qualifying. +1500 and higher would be good.

i agree

[onlooker]

Early leans:

Jimmie Johnson +500
Kyle Busch +700
Matt Kenseth +800
Kasey Kahne +1200
Joey Logano +4000

[5mike5]

Early leans:

Jimmie Johnson +500
Kyle Busch +700
Matt Kenseth +800
Kasey Kahne +1200
Joey Logano +4000

have u not opened an offshore account yet looker?

[onlooker]

have u not opened an offshore account yet looker?

No. I haven't loaded my 5dimes account yet.

[5mike5]

No. I haven't loaded my 5dimes account yet.

those arent near as far off as usually are...

love ur leans too...im going to try and wait on kahne to hopefully get a little better

[onlooker]

those arent near as far off as usually are...

Yeah, I think this is the earliest I checked them. These are Leroy's odds, since I use their mobile app.

[5mike5]

added LAGANO (+750) for nationwide race as well

so KYLE (+450) and lagano(+750) will be my only early nationwide race picks

[yisman]

onlooker, what's your SBR Pro story? How long have you been without a funded offshore account?

[onlooker]

onlooker, what's your SBR Pro story? How long have you been without a funded offshore account?

Once they announced that US will no longer be able to use Sportsbook accounts, I let my account zero out.

Figured I really didn't need it anymore since I can bet out here. I forgot how bad the odds were on NASCAR. That is the only reason I would still need a offshore account.

My PRO status is running with a deposit I made like a few years ago. It was always above $200 and active.

So now in August of 2013, I'm going to have to figure something else out if Rules stay the same. Possible Fantasy Site deposit?

[yisman]

ok, so you had money in your original Pro account a few months ago, at least. You lucked out with the extension.

No one knows if SBR Pro will still exist in 15 months so I wouldn't worry about it.

[5mike5]

exactly why ive never turned PRO status

dont see the point since the crap for Options they have for US customers now

not 1 thing i would even use on there now without sportsbooks

[onlooker]

No one knows if SBR Pro will still exist in 15 months so I wouldn't worry about it.

Yeah. I will decide what to do when the time comes.

[yisman]

mike it's true, but why didn't you go pro before April or whenever they changed it?

I would still do pro even if I wasn't going to use whatever I was buying, but I could see how someone wouldn't want to bother.

When you could still do sportsbooks it was very worth it.

[5mike5]

i agree, i juust wasnt in any hurry to be honest....and had no idea they were going to pull that option for US customer...literally happened a week b4 i tried to become PRO status by signing up at a new book

a i saw the option was gone and really couldnt think of a reason to throw away 200 bucks on things i would never use

SBR has to be losing alot of money right?

[Reno Paul]

Thought about going pro a while back, but most of the sportsbooks I already had accounts with before I came to SBR.....Well except for Bet Islands and Intertops.........I see no desire to go pro now with the current options available.....I don't play fantasy sports.

[yisman]

^^ well they did have a warning of like two weeks

yeah SBR has to be losing money on this.

[5mike5]

yeah i just never saw the warning unfortunatley...

and im like reno, i dont play fantasy anything...

[yisman]

yeah most people don't. I don't play fantasy. Stopped some years ago. I can't do both gambling and fantasy.

The fantasy forum offers a free point for posting and it's still pretty dead, lol